Banjo64
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Phil Spencer hints at future Xbox Game Pass or console price increases at WSJ Live
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Banjo64
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Killing Joel was anti consumer.
Stuart360
Member
In a sense it was actually as i wont be buying TLOU2 when it eventually comes to PC, even though i loved the first game.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
The increase was a given. Its always going to happen. The more controversial part is whether it will affect individual game and console prices.
D Darsxx82 made good point about offsetting these increases via Gamepass + $70 games. Will they touch the consoles though? I mean now since Satya has stated that Series S is doing well to bring in new customers.
I don't think they'd wanna fuck with that.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
And then people wonder why i lump him with Jim Ryan. He will say anything to get a round of applause.
Stuart360
Member
Yeah not sure they will raise the console prices, but even if they do it will only be what everyone else is doing.
Thats kind of what i mean, everyone else can do it but MS does it and they are evil, anticonsumer etc, when for everyone else its 'good business sense', 'just reflecting the financial mess the world is in' etc.
nikolino840
Member
Sure but The service was launched on June 1, 2017.. PlayStation 5 on November 12, 2020
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Stuart360
Member
Well they didnt, and havent yet. I mean at least wait for it to happen. And saying what he said doesnt mean there will be no price raising for the rest of humanity's timeline.
GHG
Gold Member
Phil Spencer is the OG.
Jim Ryan is just a robot Sony made with a clone of Phil's consciousness.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Hes talking about both gamepass and hardware here.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
bender
What time is it?
I think it would depend on where GP subscriptions are growing most. If it is the console userbase, I think you'd take the loss and keep the pricing the same on hardware to get more people into your subscription service.
TexMex
Member
100%. I primarily play on my PS5. But I own bother and I’m not satisfied with current leadership from either, for different reasons.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
You promised us Phil!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why yes, yes they did.
GHG
Gold Member
If he knew what was good for Xbox he would just stop talking until after the deal is closed. Every time he speaks he contradicts statements from their lawyers.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Apparently contrary to certain members constant denials Game Pass is profitable.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/26/23425029/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-profitable-revenues
Hawking Radiation
Member
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
I feel sick. I'm literally shaking.
MacReady13
Member
So one of the richest companies in the world, who is happy to throw $60+ billion to purchase gaming companies, who just stated they're making a profit off of their sub service, will increase prices on consoles/sub service?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Incredible. It'll only grow more with more first party games coming out in the coming months.
Some time in the future, not now, yes.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Its all just business in the end. No one from PS or Xbox is out there to make pals on gaming forums or score kudos points with the fanbase.
Personally I don't give a shit what increases and by how much. Just give me good games and I'll be happy to pay whatever.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
Just in time for Starfield.
Ellery
Member
Paying $1.10 (10% inflation) for gamepass every now and then is still okay.
So far I've paid about 7$ and had gamepass subscriptions for over 12 months. I understand that this cannot be sustainable.
Other than that no idea. I access the xbox ecosystem through PC and PC hardware has gotten more expensive too. The Series X is a good console for $499 and no idea if they raise the price.
Software other than gamepass is also not really on my radar with Xbox so only the cost of gamepass might affect me.
But what would that even be? Regular cost of $9.99 a month up to 10.98$ ? Not the end of the world. I didn't get a 10% raise at work so I would be at a net loss in this scenario, but subbing once a year to gamepass to play Starfield and some COOP with mates is still fine.
Unless we see layoffs at Xbox and Microsoft I think they are fine to slightly increase prices matching the salary increase their employees get.
So far I've paid about 7$ and had gamepass subscriptions for over 12 months. I understand that this cannot be sustainable.
Other than that no idea. I access the xbox ecosystem through PC and PC hardware has gotten more expensive too. The Series X is a good console for $499 and no idea if they raise the price.
Software other than gamepass is also not really on my radar with Xbox so only the cost of gamepass might affect me.
But what would that even be? Regular cost of $9.99 a month up to 10.98$ ? Not the end of the world. I didn't get a 10% raise at work so I would be at a net loss in this scenario, but subbing once a year to gamepass to play Starfield and some COOP with mates is still fine.
Unless we see layoffs at Xbox and Microsoft I think they are fine to slightly increase prices matching the salary increase their employees get.
Hawking Radiation
Member
It shouldn't matter if its profitable or not.
As a consumer your main concern is what the service is offering you and at what price point. For the average Joe GamePass is incredible value.
I never understood this whole fascination about profitability and all that shit. That's for the execs at Xbox to worry about.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
Why are you here then?
Yoboman
Member
So let me get this straightSony been swindling loyal customer's with the software increase for years now. The console increase was forced on them by a recession. I'm not sure Microsoft will follow suit in that regard but then they can afford to lose more than Sony. Gamepass was always going to increase in price so I'm not sure who thought otherwise
Sony = swindling the loyal customer
MS = unavoidable, victim of market forces
Hawking Radiation
Member
I’ll gladly pay .. I took a third job to game just like Sony told me
That's fair game.
Once you start selling your household assets there's a problem
Would you really be happy sleeping under a bridge just to play Starfield 3?
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I'm not and have never been concerned, but there is a big group of people on GAF that are terribly concerned and express that concern in pretty much EVERY Game Pass thread. I just wanted to put their minds at ease and let them know that all those losses they have been theorizing don't actually exist and they no longer need to worry about a service it's very likely a lot of them don't even subscribe to.
Yoboman
Member
I need a bikini skin for Abby in TLOU2 now
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Which his timing for the "prices will have to increase" is said just before all those first party games that were delayed this year, to next year end up on the service. Especially when software revenue is down and reaching "market saturation" that the service is on. Again, his words as well.I'm not and have never been concerned, but there is a big group of people on GAF that are terribly concerned and express that concern in pretty much EVERY Game Pass thread. I just wanted to put their minds at ease and let them know that all those losses they have been theorizing don't actually exist and they no longer need to worry about a service it's very likely a lot of them don't even subscribe to.
Everything that the concerned folk have been saying, is starting to come to fruition. Some are just too hyper focused on the war snippets and not the larger picture.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
That doesn't mean they weren't taking losses for a long time. Remember. Gamepass is not new. It's been around for a minute. This is the first time the word profitable has been mentioned. This is assuming uncle Phil is being 100 percent honest of course.I'm not and have never been concerned, but there is a big group of people on GAF that are terribly concerned and express that concern in pretty much EVERY Game Pass thread. I just wanted to put their minds at ease and let them know that all those losses they have been theorizing don't actually exist and they no longer need to worry about a service it's very likely a lot of them don't even subscribe to.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
ITT
Lots of people who think "At some point in the future" = this very moment.
Lots of people who think "At some point in the future" = this very moment.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Christ, what kinda bread are you buying. I'm surprised you're still alive.
Halo is Back
Member
Huge L for MS incoming
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
His words are this very moment, yes.
Stuart360
Member
Well they have barely released any first party games this year so game sales are down. And i think a lot of people would think its good business sense to POSSIBLY raise the price of a sub service, right before a few big name first party games release next year, when consumers are probably more likely to accept it.Which his timing for the "prices will have to increase" is said just before all those first party games that were delayed this year, to next year end up on the service. Especially when software revenue is down and reaching "market saturation" that the service is on. Again, his words as well.
Everything that the concerned folk have been saying, is starting to come to fruition. Some are just too hyper focused on the war snippets and not the larger picture.
They are not a charity at the end of the day.
Banjo64
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Sawdust bread bro. Liz Truss saw to that. Moved my family to the workhouse last week too. It was either that or prop up my PS5 on stilts to shelter us all, but I had to sell the PS5 to afford my sawdust bread.
Topher
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