Hezekiah
Banned
That would be unforgivable.
I think they would cut content to get it out next year, then do DLC later to avoid the embarrassment.
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I think they would cut content to get it out next year, then do DLC later to avoid the embarrassment.
Topher
Gold Member
Vasto
Member
I gave it a 7
Needed more from Xbox Studios. Only showing games coming with in the next year does not do it for me. I wanted to see games like Avowed, Fable, Hellblade 2 and Perfect Dark even if they are further then a year out.
Dont care about 3rd party stuff in the main show. Save those for the post show on Tuesday.
Needed more from Xbox Studios. Only showing games coming with in the next year does not do it for me. I wanted to see games like Avowed, Fable, Hellblade 2 and Perfect Dark even if they are further then a year out.
Dont care about 3rd party stuff in the main show. Save those for the post show on Tuesday.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I still need to see an example of a good showcase from people because I've been watching these shows for literally years and if you though that was a bad show you're fucked.
SLB1904
Banned
lets wait for actually gameplay not ''in engine'' bullshit
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
5/10
But only because my expectations were set too high.
A bunch of decent looking games all coming out in the next 12 months isn't a disaster, but I wanted to see one or two "Wow games" and we never got them, imo.
But only because my expectations were set too high.
A bunch of decent looking games all coming out in the next 12 months isn't a disaster, but I wanted to see one or two "Wow games" and we never got them, imo.
Roberts
Member
8/10. Redfall and Starfield are obviously highlights. Can't wait to play Pentiment and High on Life this year - weird games are my jam. Never played Persona, so I'm a bit curious about it even though it doesn't really feel like a game for me. Also, Grounded has been great pretty much from the beginning, so final version is a must. Barely any next gen looking games, but I'm ok with that.
sojuwarrior
Member
jimbo partying right now at sony after watching this show lol
sircaw
Banned
Daytonabot
Banned
Coming from someone with no skin in the current gen console game, the show was an overall disappointment. However, Starfield looks like Microsoft's Bloodborne, something that towers over everything else they have ever published.
KormaChameleon
Member
5/10. I feel I am being too generous but the Kojima announcement was completely unexpected.
Oh and High on Life (Rick and Morty shooter) looks fun and was the only game that interested me. I'm sure Starfield will be loved by many but it really looked like a watered down no man sky and the combat looked so clunky.
Oh and High on Life (Rick and Morty shooter) looks fun and was the only game that interested me. I'm sure Starfield will be loved by many but it really looked like a watered down no man sky and the combat looked so clunky.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Sony hasn't had a good showcase since 15 minutes of E3 2015......
...prove to me I'm wrong.
ZehDon
Member
I gave it an 8/10, but it could be a 7 and I wouldn't argue. I applaud sticking to what's coming in the next 12 months - even if it doubles down on the "wait till next year" meme - and seeing so much gameplay instead of another CGI announcement trailer for a game that's literally six or seven years away. Disappointed that there wasn't a single surprise, though.
With that said, the show itself still needs fundamental presentation work. The whiplash going from Diablo IV to AA stuff to live serve updates to Forza to indies... it just makes all of the smaller titles look that much worse. They can pretend that a game is a game is a game, but the folks tuning in to this show certainly doesn't think so.
And for fucks sake: stop pretending updates deserve the same billing as actual fucking games.
They should have clear, titled sections to this:
Random notes:
With that said, the show itself still needs fundamental presentation work. The whiplash going from Diablo IV to AA stuff to live serve updates to Forza to indies... it just makes all of the smaller titles look that much worse. They can pretend that a game is a game is a game, but the folks tuning in to this show certainly doesn't think so.
And for fucks sake: stop pretending updates deserve the same billing as actual fucking games.
They should have clear, titled sections to this:
- Do a 15 minute pre-show with all of the live-service update announcements.
- Open with the smallest games first. Give them a proper chance to impress instead of sandwiching them between Forza and Diablo.
- Transition into the blockbuster section and drop the big titles everyone's actually tuning in for.
Random notes:
- Redfall looks worse every time I see it.
- Every developer employs the same "trailer formula".
- Nothing matches Xbox for sheer diversity of titles.
- "Generic beat heavy pseudo-RNB trailer music" must be a genre.
- Todd always has nice jackets.
slade
Member
Show stunk. A solid 4/10.
The sole appearance of that Team Ninja game made it somewhat bearable. Also liked Flintlock and that Benedict Fox game. Other then that, I have no interest in Starfield or Kojima or the umpteenth First Person co-op shooter or battle royale so much of those announcements fell flat.
This show just reiterated that aside from some outliers here and there, the majority of what Xbox Game Studios make is not for me.
The sole appearance of that Team Ninja game made it somewhat bearable. Also liked Flintlock and that Benedict Fox game. Other then that, I have no interest in Starfield or Kojima or the umpteenth First Person co-op shooter or battle royale so much of those announcements fell flat.
This show just reiterated that aside from some outliers here and there, the majority of what Xbox Game Studios make is not for me.
Die Namek Ability
Member
A bunch of indies and medium sized games, a few multiplats and a a so so showing of there flagpole title just isnt enough after having zero games released for the year... if you rate this over a 7 you would have to question your objectivity or you really like Starfeild and would have rated this highly no matter what was shown.
sojuwarrior
Member
sony's 30 mins SOP last week alone was better than this.
Wandering Leopard
Member
I was expecting a little, but it was a very solid showing and I like the Indy looking titles, Starfield and Wo long.
However there too many 2023 titles and it was bloated.
However there too many 2023 titles and it was bloated.
tommib
Gold Member
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Right now I have 2 Xbox series S consoles sat downstairs going unused. Freebies from phone contract upgrades. I spend most of my gaming time on Playstation and PC, so I need a reason to sign up for GamePass because basically why do I want to pay for another subscription?
Honest truth: Although I can see the appeal of a lot of the stuff, for me, I didn't see too much to get me excited. At least not excited enough to subscribe long-term or otherwise invest more into MS' ecosystem.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I take it you werent alive for the TV showcase?
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Presumably it won't be out in the next 12 months.Why was Hellbalde 2 a no-show?
I was expecting to see another extensive gameplay trailer, because the previous gameplay reveal was far too scripted and left me underwhelmed.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Because they just announced a major delay for the game…after boldly coming out a year ago and promising they were going to put the game out this november. It would be a collosal embarassment for them to date it again, or even give it a window again, just to then delay it. Cd projekt red became a laughing stock after cyberpunk went from april, to september, to november, to december.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Just speaking facts. The reality is, these showcases have never been start to end top tier shows.
Unless, someone can prove me wrong.
This was a great show.
The best thing for me was Forza Horizon but we already had Hot Wheels in Forza Horizon 3.. kinda boring in that sense
Victor Omega
Member
Gamepass fonder + No man Field
CatsGamesWhatever
Member
I rate it 3/10 without Starfield but 5/10 with Starfield.
There was really nothing there for me personally. Lots of multiplayer games, some game preview stuff getting a story (finally) and a bunch of mediocre mid tier games.
I'm really concerned that Starfield had a lot of No Man's Sky elements to it especially if they do the procedural generated planets. I played No Man's Sky after it had several years/updates and it wasn't great even then.
And the Kojima announcement was a nothing burger. It looked like he had trouble remembering which company he was working with for the announcement lol
There was really nothing there for me personally. Lots of multiplayer games, some game preview stuff getting a story (finally) and a bunch of mediocre mid tier games.
I'm really concerned that Starfield had a lot of No Man's Sky elements to it especially if they do the procedural generated planets. I played No Man's Sky after it had several years/updates and it wasn't great even then.
And the Kojima announcement was a nothing burger. It looked like he had trouble remembering which company he was working with for the announcement lol
Otre
Banned
It was fine. Gamepass still is the best value. No surprises. Starfield looked mid. Scorn, Benedict, Silksong, Diablo IV looked great.
6/10.
Kinda crazy the State of play's 3 main trailers (RE4, SF6 and FFXVI) or the Plucky Squire had more impact that this whole 95 minutes of announcements.
6/10.
Kinda crazy the State of play's 3 main trailers (RE4, SF6 and FFXVI) or the Plucky Squire had more impact that this whole 95 minutes of announcements.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
That's pretty much where I'm at. I barely hit an 8 on this one, could've gone 7. But Team Ninja day one took effort from them, and they framed it in the context of Xbox history. So they put in the effort to get that on Gamepass, and that's pretty much top tier announcement for me.
I do think you have a point about the pacing or framing. It's decent, but maybe it could be altered a bit.
Overall, I think there's going to be a lot to play. Stuff that just had small clips could turn out to be really good, like Scorn or Pentiment.
It's a lower score than I gave them last year, but they get some acknowledgment for showing basically 100% gameplay. I've definitely seen worse shows.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
If this didn't show you why you may want to try game pass over the next 12 months...nothing will.
Banjo64
cumsessed
‘My show was less shit than your show’
SLB1904
Banned
Isa
Member
Its funny because you can't please everyone. MS(Bond if I recall) started the show saying they're focusing on titles coming out in the next year, a first for them. People complain about MS announcing games too early. They decide to show games releasing in a relatively short window. People still complain. I think MS could have done themselves a favor tempering expectations by saying this earlier, probably back when they announced the event. But I get it, plans change and titles slide. Also, its not like the world's infrastructure has suddenly been restored to pre-pandemic conditions. So many still work from home, economies are on the fritz, tensions are high for many reasons. I'm just glad to be getting decent games. Hell if the recession hits bad in early 2023 like its been predicted by several CFO's I wonder how many devs and publishers close up shop or sell to bigger fish. When people can barely afford to drive, work and eat, it'll shake the industry, every industry. Gas for me on barely over half a tank was 72 dollarydoos on Friday. I could've got a game for that, or a controller and more.
I don't think people appreciate what's coming, and I think MS and Gamepass may be a very attractive offer in the future for the average consumer.
I don't think people appreciate what's coming, and I think MS and Gamepass may be a very attractive offer in the future for the average consumer.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Almost every Sony showcase over the last 7 years
MScarpa
Member
nominedomine, Is that you?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
A 9 from me only because there was no contraband, hellblade II, perfect dark or avowed, and I was hoping for Wolfenstein to make an appearance or for a surprise Indiana Jones.
Redfall looked great, better than I hoped. Game Pass... sweet jesus lol. So many damn games coming to Game Pass!!! Flintlock also looks stunning as well. Super damn cool.
And Forza!? GOD DAMN!!!!!!!
The show was beginning to drag a little in the middle, but all of what they showed of starfield, catapulted the show up to a solid 9 for me. Bethesda Game Studios Maryland just don't miss! Game looks like everything I've ever wanted it to be and then some. Graphically it's unquestionably a massive jump over past Bethesda games. Stunning that the game looks so good on such a massive scale. Right now watching the trailers over.
Redfall looked great, better than I hoped. Game Pass... sweet jesus lol. So many damn games coming to Game Pass!!! Flintlock also looks stunning as well. Super damn cool.
And Forza!? GOD DAMN!!!!!!!
The show was beginning to drag a little in the middle, but all of what they showed of starfield, catapulted the show up to a solid 9 for me. Bethesda Game Studios Maryland just don't miss! Game looks like everything I've ever wanted it to be and then some. Graphically it's unquestionably a massive jump over past Bethesda games. Stunning that the game looks so good on such a massive scale. Right now watching the trailers over.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I expected so much more, especially after talking with some people here about how it will be a banger etc...And all I saw was timed exclusives of games that barely interested me (except High on life and Plague tales), Forza looked amazing though, but disappointed in Redfall and Starfield.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Absolute bullshit lol, and you know it. Tell me. What years?
Which presentations were start to end bangers?
clarky
Gold Member
Seems MS can't with with the losers on this board. Show CGI and reveals too far out and they get panned, show gameplay from releases in the next 12 months, get panned.
Thought it was a far showing, if everything releases as planned. Starfield, Forza, Redfall, Diablo 4 plague tale, wo long, silksong all in the next twelve months and you think this is bad?
Thought it was a far showing, if everything releases as planned. Starfield, Forza, Redfall, Diablo 4 plague tale, wo long, silksong all in the next twelve months and you think this is bad?
Banjo64
cumsessed
Xbox last year with Fable, Starfield, The Outer Worlds 2, Hellblade 2, FH5 - entire show slapped.
Fbh
Member
A solid 7/10.
Not much in terms of exciting announcements but they showed a bunch of great looking stuff, we finally got a proper look at Starfield and it further promoted the tremendous value of Gamepass.
I also appreciate them focusing on stuff coming in the next year and with tons of gameplay instead of CGI announcements for stuff that's coming in 2025.
Only disappointment for me is Hellblade. It was the first game they announced for the system and it still seems like it's 1+ years away
Not much in terms of exciting announcements but they showed a bunch of great looking stuff, we finally got a proper look at Starfield and it further promoted the tremendous value of Gamepass.
I also appreciate them focusing on stuff coming in the next year and with tons of gameplay instead of CGI announcements for stuff that's coming in 2025.
Only disappointment for me is Hellblade. It was the first game they announced for the system and it still seems like it's 1+ years away
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