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Retail reports indicate Nintendo DS pricing, launch date, software
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deadhorse32
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you can find the same info in another thread. The source is 2ch so the veracity of those rumors are pretty low.
Bluemercury
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Lisa Lashes said:
You're kidding right?the GBA SP here in Europe(Portugal) costs almost that.....
deadhorse32
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Lost Weekend said:
2ch is the biggest anonymous japanese messageboard. Lots of info there but also lots of BS.
LuckyBrand
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Deg said:
$250?!? who the hell said $250 ever?!
I was hearing $129.99 to $149.99... they price this at $180 this christmas and I guarantee it sells like crap.
however, I doubt they price it that high... however, it doesnt much matter to me.. I am going to save the money I'd put towards a DS for the overly expensive PSP, and hope that it gets some price drops about a year in so that I can afford it if it launches too expensive.
ManDudeChild
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Milhouse31 said:
Which will likely make this thread entertaining as Gamesindustry is likely to be pwned.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
The SP is an enhanced GBA. Calling the DS and advanced GC an enhanced N64. Only even worst, at least the second comparison doesn't have things like touchscreen involved.
Well, it's got a higher clocked GBA chip (ARM7), additional higher spec chip (ARM9), two frontlit screens both of which are larger than GBA's single screen (one of which is touch sensitive), two cart interfaces, 802.11 WiFi, Motorolla's local wireless tech, a stylus, a microphone, two additional buttons, a headphone jack and likely the Picto-Chat software application. I think it really might cost over $100 to make a DS, and that doesn't include packaging or distribution costs...BeOnEdge said:
I really feel sorry for those of you who have to argue like $180 is somehow overpriced. I don't think there's been a Wifi-enabled portable device yet that's sold for sub-$200 at launch, but I could be wrong. Still, at best there may have been very few. If the rumors/reports are true and Nintendo sells this for less than $200 then I'd think you'd be hard-pressed to find a better deal that encompasses the same level and breadth of technology.
Alcibiades
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$149 for DS is too low considering the $99 SP currently in the market (which doesn't need a price drop anytime soon, considering the brisk sales)...
$199 sounds just about right for the DS, I'd be surprised if they launched at $180 considering the price of the two screens and how much more it packs than SP (also, my bet is Nintendo wants to make good money off the hardware anyway)...
In fact, I wouldn't expect a price drop for either when PSP launches unless it significantly affects sales...
Either way, expect launch quantities to sell out if there is a November launch...
Also, expect a successful run for DS no matter what the price, this thing, if it launches in Christmas, will have a lot of momentum going in the new year...
$199 sounds just about right for the DS, I'd be surprised if they launched at $180 considering the price of the two screens and how much more it packs than SP (also, my bet is Nintendo wants to make good money off the hardware anyway)...
In fact, I wouldn't expect a price drop for either when PSP launches unless it significantly affects sales...
Either way, expect launch quantities to sell out if there is a November launch...
Also, expect a successful run for DS no matter what the price, this thing, if it launches in Christmas, will have a lot of momentum going in the new year...
They can easily ride that price point initially. I'm sure they'll drop around PSP-time, or soon after. 179 seems reasonable to me given the features in the system (two screens and wifi, specifically).
edit - I'd also consider that CHEAP if it hit euro with that price intact. I spent 130 euro on a GBASP a month or two ago, which is just 15 euro short of this DS price.
edit - I'd also consider that CHEAP if it hit euro with that price intact. I spent 130 euro on a GBASP a month or two ago, which is just 15 euro short of this DS price.
Drinky Crow
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You can get a PSOne + LCD for $149! You can also get a N64 for like $30, and it actually has texture filtering and perspective correction!
$179 = BAH. As a novelty trinket or a GBA SP replacement, I'd pay $100 for the DS, tops.
$179 = BAH. As a novelty trinket or a GBA SP replacement, I'd pay $100 for the DS, tops.
Drinky Crow
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Because the PSOne + LCD is -- dig this -- portable? I even have a cute little knapsack thing for it. I just threw the N64 in because the shitty specs of the DS irritate me to no end -- it would take a hell of a library to make me fork out $179 just to revisit the ugly-ass PSOne era 3D visuals when I already have a PSOne.
I don't have anything resembling a portable PS2, currently, because Sony hasn't seen fit to release a 640x480 LCD screen with a decent refresh and/or a smaller form factor "PSTwo",. The PSP sounds killer because I get modern visuals and controls, although I'm sitting out the first batch of those buggers until Sony gets the manufacturing quality down.
I don't have anything resembling a portable PS2, currently, because Sony hasn't seen fit to release a 640x480 LCD screen with a decent refresh and/or a smaller form factor "PSTwo",. The PSP sounds killer because I get modern visuals and controls, although I'm sitting out the first batch of those buggers until Sony gets the manufacturing quality down.
The PSOne comparison still makes no sense, because it's not as if DS plays PSOne games, or even PSOne ports. The fact that someone has a PSOne and LCD screen doesn't have anything to do with the DS. It's like saying, "You already have a PC Engine...why buy an Xbox?"Drinky Crow said:
As far as the PSP, my whole point was that it isn't just a portable PS2, and that it will have plenty of unique software that you can't play anywhere else...much like the DS.
Drinky Crow
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No, it's like saying "you have a tiny PSOne form factor with a great LCD screen that uses 1996's technology, why buy 2004 technology that's marginally smaller, has a bunch of novelty geegaws, yet has the same fucking ugly-ass caveman 1996 3D graphics quality?" Nintendo isn't even nice enough to significantly up the screen resolution or bit depth to help 2D along.
Or have PSOne-era threedee visuals come back in vogue, and their detrimental effect on modern gameplay perception all been outed as an elitist conspiracy? It's like getting NES graphics in the Saturn era -- the glitches, warping, and artifacts are a pretty big freakin' eyesore.
Or have PSOne-era threedee visuals come back in vogue, and their detrimental effect on modern gameplay perception all been outed as an elitist conspiracy? It's like getting NES graphics in the Saturn era -- the glitches, warping, and artifacts are a pretty big freakin' eyesore.
Drinky Crow
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It's nice, but outside of a schoolyard or one of those creepy E3 nerd clusterfucks, I'm not gonna find anyone to use it with.
Clearly, you're pretty hung up on the graphics, and I'm not going to try and tell you they're PSP caliber or anything. But you can't use the technology to brush aside the value of any and all games coming out for the device...especially when said device has equipment on it that could potentially make for games that are unique, fun experiences.Drinky Crow said:
Hell, even if the DS didn't have two screens or a stylus or what have you, and was basically a portable N64, it still doesn't deserve to be discounted so early on just because of its tech, because the software could redeem it. After all, the GBA's technology is horrendously outdated at this point, but that doesn't mean Mario and Luigi was any less of a kickass game.
Drinky Crow
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So by that measure, I should immediately buy EVERY piece of hardware that comes out, just because it might have a game I'll like on it? I shouldn't expect the most hardware bang for my buck, or for a little freakin' PROGRESS rather than a landslide back to a day of nearly incoherent proto-3D visuals?
Sorry, warping textures and absent texture filtering/perspective correction/proper alpha channel is NOT something I'm willing to drop $179 for, seeing what a HUGE step back it is. I actually wouldn't mind a portable N64 -- get rid of the dual screens and touch pad, and fix the N64's texture caching issues, and I'd be tempted even at $179.
Like I said, I'll pay $100 for it as a cute gimmicky toy with a few good games. The WiFi is nice, but the touch pad/stylus and the dual screen crap is totally throwaway fluff used solely to differentiate the product without real consideration. Unique and innovative games can happen on ANY format, given the proper developer mindset, and I'd rather play them on a format where the visuals aren't so damn ugly.
Sorry, warping textures and absent texture filtering/perspective correction/proper alpha channel is NOT something I'm willing to drop $179 for, seeing what a HUGE step back it is. I actually wouldn't mind a portable N64 -- get rid of the dual screens and touch pad, and fix the N64's texture caching issues, and I'd be tempted even at $179.
Like I said, I'll pay $100 for it as a cute gimmicky toy with a few good games. The WiFi is nice, but the touch pad/stylus and the dual screen crap is totally throwaway fluff used solely to differentiate the product without real consideration. Unique and innovative games can happen on ANY format, given the proper developer mindset, and I'd rather play them on a format where the visuals aren't so damn ugly.
Drinky Crow said:
That's what I mean.
Nobody says you have to buy a DS, but by the same token it's nonsensical to dimiss it by saying you can get a PSOne package instead.
Also, as a small aside: I think you might be stretching the poor quality of the DS' 3D a bit far -- it's no PSP, but I don't think it's "nearly incoherent".
Drinky Crow
Banned
Metroid Hunters sure had some serious texture warping and pixelation, and the Mario 64x4 title wasn't exactly attractive, either.
I agree with the dual screens but the touch screen has me pretty excited actually. Pac-Pix, Wario Ware and the Submarine demo all used it to great effect and did things not really possible before on dedicated gaming platforms... I hope the next GameBoy features touch interface.Drinky Crow said:
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
How can you agree on the touchscreen and not the dual screens? It's so vital to have a second screen for some games, you don't want to have to control a game like Pac n Roll on one screen.
Kobun Heat
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Or Baby Mario's Balloon Trip, which I hope to God gets released somehow. Maybe as a bonus game in one of the Mario titles...Mama Smurf said:
Alcibiades
Member
jarrod said:
more like:
Holiday 2004
-GameBoy Advance SP @ $99
-GameCube (Metroid bundle) @ $99
-Nintendo DS @ $179
Spring 2005
-GameBoy Advance SP @ $99
-GameCube @ $99
-Nintendo DS @ $179
if PSP doesn't really affect sales...
JoshuaJSlone
Member
More than marginal size difference, extra screen, _battery_, novelty geegaws, and Nintendo games are decent to me.Drinky Crow said: