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[Resident_UA]

If FSB confirms its a bomb by ISIS. Putin will Nuke ISIS. he doesn't care about collateral damage....and Obama will let him

Nah, Russian media/government are really pushing back against the fact that it was terrorism. If they end up acknowledging it they will have hard time selling people on something that crazy... Although I've seen them do crazier things...

 

[cyberheater]

Oh boy...

Russia is suspending all flights to Egypt following indications that last week's plane crash which killed all 224 people on board was caused by a bomb.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34743216

So it seems that Russia now believes it was a bomb. Things are heating up.

 

[reckless]

If it was a bomb from ISIS , I can definitely see Raqqa looking like Grozny soon.

 

[Log4Girlz]

I doubt Russia will go all "possible nuke area?" on Syria. It would actually bolster ISIS morale when survivors basically blow a raspberry at Putin.

 

[KingSnake]

ISIS should stop using phones from now on.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Holy shit at the Charlie Hebdo comics of this tragedy. Russia is pissed.

 

[Blue Lou]

Daily Mail are reporting that a missile was fired at a Thomson flight from London to Sharm El Sheikh on 23 August 2015 but missed.

 

[Tarkus]

Raqqa will soon be a crater. I hope the innocent men, women, and children can get out.

 

[StopMakingSense]

If FSB confirms its a bomb by ISIS. Putin will Nuke ISIS. he doesn't care about collateral damage....and Obama will let him

and in the end maybe that is what is required. one army invasion or one strategic strike

We don't need to dredge up THAT thread, do we?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Is Russia going to just admit it was a bomb after the Black Box details?

 

[cyberheater]

Is Russia going to just admit it was a bomb after the Black Box details?

I don't know why they are so reluctant to do so.

 

[danowat]

I don't know why they are so reluctant to do so.

Once you open that box, you can't shut it, so you better be 100% sure.

 

[FStop7]

If FSB confirms its a bomb by ISIS. Putin will Nuke ISIS. he doesn't care about collateral damage....and Obama will let him

and in the end maybe that is what is required. one army invasion or one strategic strike

If you mean "nuke" as in the literal use of nuclear weapons, no.

If you mean "nuke" as in retaliating with a lot of force, then maybe.

 

[Resident_UA]

I don't know why they are so reluctant to do so.

It doesn't fit their narrative in media. They are trying to sell the image of a war in Syria as a war without consequences. Perception of any weakness does not fit that narrative. But I'm sure they can adjust on the fly and use this as a good reason to intensify the war in Syria...

 

[corduroygt]

Any Syrian rebel group or militia that are called islamic this or that are fair game since they all become ISIS or ISIS-lite. Lets hope Putin penalizes them severely.

 

[Undead]

Daily Mail are reporting that a missile was fired at a Thomson flight from London to Sharm El Sheikh on 23 August 2015 but missed.

Just had a look, Guardian and others are reporting it as well, funny how they never tell us any of these things until people die.

 

[Joni]

I don't know why they are so reluctant to do so.

They have to go to war the minute they admit it. They can't admit it, and do nothing. So Putin has to start moving troops and consider where he is going to war. Combatting ISIS means not only Syria, but also Iraq, maybe Egypt, a small chance Nigeria, regions in his own country, ...

 

[CryptiK]

Daily Mail are reporting that a missile was fired at a Thomson flight from London to Sharm El Sheikh on 23 August 2015 but missed.

And we are still flying over these areas why?

 

[KingSnake]

Daily Mail are reporting that a missile was fired at a Thomson flight from London to Sharm El Sheikh on 23 August 2015 but missed.

And yet they continued flying there like nothing happened.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

From what I heard the security in Sharm airport is a joke in comparison with Cairo given that it's mostly tourist airport. Regardless I still expect the outcome will be an Egyptian and Russian cooperation in eliminating any source of terrorism. It won't be like the Assad support but Russia will support Egypt further.
Russia just won Egypt as a new close ally and won't let go given what's happening in Syria.

 

[Undead]

From what I heard the security in Sharm airport is a joke in comparison with Cairo given that it's mostly tourist airport. Regardless I still expect the outcome will be an Egyptian and Russian cooperation in eliminating any source of terrorism. It won't be like the Assad support but Russia will support Egypt further.
Russia just won Egypt as a new close ally and won't let go given what's happening in Syria.

That's good, the more countries that want to go stomping all over isis, the better chance of killing them all

 

[Confrontation]

Flying Monday to Egypt for 2 weeks. Getting a bit nervous, but luckily I have to fly to Hurghada.

 

[SuperBanana]

Flying Monday to Egypt for 2 weeks. Getting a bit nervous, but luckily I have to fly to Hurghada.

There will be 36.5 million flights this year. We've had 2 major crashes this year of passenger planes. You'll be fine. I'm sure security will be considerably tighter now as well.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Flying Monday to Egypt for 2 weeks. Getting a bit nervous, but luckily I have to fly to Hurghada.

The probability of this happening again is very low so no need to worry.

 

[GasProblem]

And now the news that in August an Egyptian rocket passed a commercial British airplane at 300m distance during an rocket test and the pilots had to sway the plane to the left. Who fires a practice rocket through civilian airspace?

 

[Jezbollah]

And yet they continued flying there like nothing happened.

If you had read the article you will see the crew made an evasive turn. So, no.

 

[KingSnake]

If you had read the article you will see the crew made an evasive turn. So, no.

I was talking about the airlines in general. But I understood now that it was actually an Egyptian missile.

 

[Undead]

I was talking about the airlines in general. But I understood now that it was actually an Egyptian missile.

Yeah and that makes it worse IMO, the Egyptian government is so incompetent they actually launch missiles within range of civilian aircraft

 

[KingSnake]

Yeah and that makes it worse IMO, the Egyptian government is so incompetent they actually launch missiles within range of civilian aircraft

Yeah, but if flying above countries ruled by incompetents would be forbidden, we would be able to fly just over the seas and oceans.

 

[aspiegamer]

Egypt punting and refusing to give an exact cause (merely that debris is consistent with the plane breaking up in midair), blaming intelligence agencies for not providing them info.

 

[reckless]

Daily Mail are reporting that a missile was fired at a Thomson flight from London to Sharm El Sheikh on 23 August 2015 but missed.

Let's remember that the Daily Mail is basically worthless in terms of getting actual news. Trusting anything they say is usually a bad idea.

 

[Ushojax]

Let's remember that the Daily Mail is basically worthless in terms of getting actual news. Trusting anything they say is usually a bad idea.

I believe that story has been confirmed by the airline and UK government. It was a stray missile from an Egyptian military exercise.

 

[reckless]

I believe that story has been confirmed. It was a stray missile from an Egyptian military exercise.

That's a lot different than Jihadists trying to shoot down the plane with the pilot making a last second turn to save everyone...

 

[smurfx]

euro countries currently having problems taking care of refugees are probably sweating at the prospect of russia bombing the hell out of syrian cities in search of isis and creating a huge 2nd wave of refugees.

 

[Vastag]

Let's remember that the Daily Mail is basically worthless in terms of getting actual news. Trusting anything they say is usually a bad idea.

It's also on The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/06/missed-by-a-1000-feet-how-british-holidaymakers-came-close-to-being-hit-by-a-missile-in-august

 

[chadskin]

Russian state news agency Sputnik (aka RIA Novosti in Russia) has put up an opinion piece, suggesting the British intelligence agency MI6 may have blown up the plane:

Cameron and Obama are evidently being fed intelligence assessments of a bomb being stowed in the airplane's hold by terrorists.

But here is a big one. The confidence by which these assessments of terror methodology are being made raises an even more troubling, darker question: was it really terrorists, or was it British MI6 agents palming the deed off as terrorists?

http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151106/1029694767/sinai-isil-russia-a321-crash.html

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Russian state news agency Sputnik (aka RIA Novosti in Russia) has put up an opinion piece, suggesting the British intelligence agency MI6 may have blown up the plane:


http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151106/1029694767/sinai-isil-russia-a321-crash.html

Sounds like fake tough guy Putin is looking for any excuse not to escalate the fight with ISIS. Even he knows it would be a real dirty fight.

 

[Pedrito]

If it was a bomb, I don't get Russia's reluctance to admit it. Their whole shtick the last two years has been to paint themselves as victims and now that they finally have a good reason to do it, they get cold feet? Could it mean that the "ISIS campaign" is really not going well at all?

 

[CHEEZMO™]

If it was a bomb, I don't get Russia's reluctance to admit it. Their whole shtick the last two years has been to paint themselves as victims and now that they finally have a good reason to do it, they get cold feet? Could it mean that the "ISIS campaign" is really not going well at all?

Given their line has been "ISIS have been shattered in just 1 month by mighty Russian air force and are on the verge of total collapse", it's understandable why they might be hesitant (provided it was indeed a bomb).

The whole point of Putin's military adventures is to show RUSSIA STRONG! etc, which is why they go after targets they know can't defeat them. Can't show weakness.

 

[DrM]

Russian state news agency Sputnik (aka RIA Novosti in Russia) has put up an opinion piece, suggesting the British intelligence agency MI6 may have blown up the plane.

About that columnist, what a career turn-around:

He is a Master’s graduate in Agricultural Chemistry and worked as a scientific editor for the Royal Society of Chemistry, Cambridge, England, before pursuing a career in newspaper journalism. He is also a musician and songwriter. For nearly 20 years, he worked as an editor and writer in major news media organisations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Independent.

 

[Ushojax]

About that columnist, what a career turn-around:

money money money

 

[More Fun To Compute]

If British intelligence did blow it up then we have learned from Putin that the best strategy is to say we didn't do it and that the person who didn't do it is a national hero for not doing it on the day he didn't do it.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Russian state news agency Sputnik (aka RIA Novosti in Russia) has put up an opinion piece, suggesting the British intelligence agency MI6 may have blown up the plane:


http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151106/1029694767/sinai-isil-russia-a321-crash.html

do they make tinfoil in Russia?

 

[mr2t]

If British intelligence did blow it up then we have learned from Putin that the best strategy is to say we didn't do it and that the person who didn't do it is a national hero for not doing it on the day he didn't do it.

WASHINGTON/LONDON (Reuters) - British and U.S. spies intercepted "chatter" from suspected militants and at least one other government suggesting that a bomb, possibly hidden in luggage in the hold, downed a Russian airliner on Saturday, killing all 224 people on board, Western intelligence sources said.

http://news.yahoo.com/intercepted-chatter-supports-theory-bomb-took-down-jet-154843540.html

Probably Saudi Arabia

 

[Insane Metal]

Oh ffs I hope this thing involving governments isn't true. Shit will hit the fan hard if so. :|

 

[Abounder]

Raqqa will soon be a crater. I hope the innocent men, women, and children can get out.

From Reuters:

Air strikes by Russian warplanes on the Islamic State-held Syrian city of Raqqa killed 42 people earlier this week, including 27 civilians, monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Friday.

Fifteen Islamic State fighters made up the remainder of the death toll, the Britain-based Observatory said, after a series of strikes on Tuesday that hit the group's Syrian stronghold.

The bombings add to a civilian death toll from Russian strikes, which the Syrian Network for Human Rights, another monitoring group, said on Monday stood at 254 people killed in just over a month.

It was also a rare heavy Russian bombardment targeting Islamic State rather than other insurgent groups.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/06/us-mideast-crisis-syria-raqqa-idUSKCN0SV14L20151106

 

[superdeluxe]

They are finally getting after ISIS.

 

[Pedrito]

Nevermind

 

[Valhelm]

From Reuters:

How do they know death counts? Are there secret informants living under ISIS rule?

 

[chadskin]

Reuters: Investigator says team are "90% sure" that the explosion heard on the recording from crashed Russian #Metrojet flight was a bomb

https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/663322379465158656