Hugare
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Yeah, really feels like Netflix says "just do whatever, we just need your name on the cover". And everyone accepts the deal 'cause its a buttload of money.
We could have gotten a new Mindhunter season instead of this 6/10 movie
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The Killer - David Fincher/Fassbender
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We could have gotten a new Mindhunter season instead of this 6/10 movie
Krappadizzle
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So disappointed we never got another season of Mindhunter. My MIL lived in the same neighborhood as Kemper and she was a teenage girl around that time. It was so interesting to watch it and learn about how he and the FBI started that whole division, even in it's dramatized fashion. Shame we never got more.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I love the Smiths and hate that they're music is in this. I won't watch for that reason.
FunkMiller
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Can’t help but think the better movie is about Tilda Swinton’s character.
7/10. Fincher sleepwalking.
7/10. Fincher sleepwalking.
NikuNashi
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Solid movie. A story based around a strong white, straight male (something that hollywood cant make anymore). Great fight sequence. Great music (as a smiths and morrissey fan).
Fassbender was excellent.
I will say some of the supporting actrs were weak and did look like they were acting in a tv show not a movie (the taxi driver and the brother).
Fassbender was excellent.
I will say some of the supporting actrs were weak and did look like they were acting in a tv show not a movie (the taxi driver and the brother).
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dan76
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I enjoyed it, as much for the things it doesn't have. No back story, the main character doesn't change, no gotcha's. It was simple, straight, no tricky cinematography. It sort of reminded me what films for adults used to be like. I'm not a huge Fincher fan, but I really like Seven, and Zodiac. It was solid, sparse and economical with its storytelling. Fassbinder was great.
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What I loved about it is the 15 minute setup when the movie starts about this badass dude with his rituals and patience and then he just fucks it up!!
I am not familiar with hitman contracts but I assume more forgiveness if you messed up one time.
Anyway it was a fun journey to be a part of and that house fight in Florida was brutal & desperate.
I also thought the woman in his house was his maid not his girlfriend.
RACIST PRICK!
I am not familiar with hitman contracts but I assume more forgiveness if you messed up one time.
Anyway it was a fun journey to be a part of and that house fight in Florida was brutal & desperate.
I also thought the woman in his house was his maid not his girlfriend.
RACIST PRICK!
Majormaxxx
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This is the perfect description.
Have in mind that 1. Netflix writers are mid and 2. Most Netflix movies are made to be watched while doing something else.
Extraction was also like that. So was that Affleck special ops movie in south America
Majormaxxx
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How dare you!What I loved about it is the 15 minute setup when the movie starts about this badass dude with his rituals and patience and then he just fucks it up!!
I am not familiar with hitman contracts but I assume more forgiveness if you messed up one time.
Anyway it was a fun journey to be a part of and that house fight in Florida was brutal & desperate.
I also thought the woman in his house was his maid not his girlfriend.
RACIST PRICK!
March Climber
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I decided to randomly watch it today and I was mostly impressed.
Moments like the spoilers are what I expect from those movies(which those types of sloppy decisions would then lead to more and more action scenes) and it kept proving me wrong and sticking to its own code to such a degree that I was impressed. There are so many moments where ‘basic action movie’ could have happened but the main character just went ‘no, this will be by the book.’
To be fair though I’m not sure what people were wanting with the movie but to me it felt like a peek into the life of an assassin, how odd one like himself might think and behave, but also how that odd way of thinking and behaving works for him throughout the movie.
Weirdly enough I felt this was almost the opposite of by the numbers. There have been so many agent/assassin movies that have gone in a direction that this movie didn’t…
When he was talking to the handler and assistant I was honestly expecting him to break his code and let them go.
When he asked the cab driver about the whereabouts of the other assassins I expected him to break his code and let the cab driver go.
When he confronted the client I expected him to kill him like a typical movie would do to nearly wrap things. He didn’t.
Even when certain characters had long speeches for him, he decided not to have a long conversation with them and did not talk back with his own long speech. He instead mostly listened and calculated the best course of action to solve his problem. He didn’t care to ask them many questions or discuss aside from the last guy who he asked if there was a problem. Even then he left it at that.
When he asked the cab driver about the whereabouts of the other assassins I expected him to break his code and let the cab driver go.
When he confronted the client I expected him to kill him like a typical movie would do to nearly wrap things. He didn’t.
Even when certain characters had long speeches for him, he decided not to have a long conversation with them and did not talk back with his own long speech. He instead mostly listened and calculated the best course of action to solve his problem. He didn’t care to ask them many questions or discuss aside from the last guy who he asked if there was a problem. Even then he left it at that.
Moments like the spoilers are what I expect from those movies(which those types of sloppy decisions would then lead to more and more action scenes) and it kept proving me wrong and sticking to its own code to such a degree that I was impressed. There are so many moments where ‘basic action movie’ could have happened but the main character just went ‘no, this will be by the book.’
To be fair though I’m not sure what people were wanting with the movie but to me it felt like a peek into the life of an assassin, how odd one like himself might think and behave, but also how that odd way of thinking and behaving works for him throughout the movie.
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Watched yesterday, because Fincher. Fell asleep for a while. Question regarding the ending:
None of this is brilliant. A McD App is not anonymous or untraceable. Using a place as a hide out that gets random visits by staff is not brilliant, the movie trying to tell us billionaires use these cheap shit doors to go from their garage to an elevator without a receptionist in sight is actually funny.
Why didn't he kill the rich guy at the end? I didn't get it.
None of this is brilliant. A McD App is not anonymous or untraceable. Using a place as a hide out that gets random visits by staff is not brilliant, the movie trying to tell us billionaires use these cheap shit doors to go from their garage to an elevator without a receptionist in sight is actually funny.
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Hugare
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Sure, the movie subvert expectations in some ways.
But by doing that, it keeps the character boring. He gets no development during the whole movie.
A much more interesting take would be him getting sloppier as the movie goes 'cause he is emotionally damaged from this job. But nope, he is just a hypocrite who keeps making mistakes despite all of his rules.
If he didnt make any mistakes during the movie, than subverting expectations like you mentioned would have landed better. But I dont buy this "perfect assassin" vibe when hen also keeps making mistakes.
And they should have 100% developed more his relationship with the girl. I dont care about him, about the girl, about anyone in the movie.
Movie had no plot twists, no character development, nothing. You have no connection to any character. So whats the point? Pretty images?
Even the Hitman game series understand that establishing a connection between player/character is vital, so they gave Agent 47 a backstory and character development. Same for John Wick and etc.
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March Climber
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I don't think we're supposed to have a connection and I think that's on purpose. There is nothing to like or connect with when it comes to the profession of hitman/assassin, and the movie shows this with how he behaves and thinks and the protagonist even points out himself he is simply just someone in a crowd. We simply saw a slice of life film. This wouldn't have been out of place as an A24 movie. Because of that I also think the no twist part is on purpose. As you've stated, you're watching constantly expecting a twist but it simply never comes.
I guess I can find myself liking an A+ movie like Collateral with Tom Cruise and a movie like this(which I'd say is a B rating) at the same time. After watching The Killer, it made me wonder, why in the world did Vincent(from Collateral), a veteran of assassination, give such a damn about a random cab driver so much? Why play with his food like he did and take that chance with this random guy? He's probably met hundreds of dreamers like Max, but Max was the one he decided to take a liking to? He would have instead did what The Killer did in this movie with his cab driver and end him the minute the cab driver knew he was a killer. However, cinematically I understand why people see that as the boring option. I guess I respect the fact that this movie took that option and stuck to it's own ideal.
At the same time, wasn't the game that did this the least liked Hitman game among the series(Absolution)?
AJUMP23
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I did not understand this one either.
manfestival
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Seems like a lot of totally mid movies are getting a bunch of praise lately because the bar has been set so horrifically low. Real shame about the current state of the movie industry. I heard mixed things about this one. Will probably watch it eventually on a flight for christmas or something.
Reminds me of that one scifi movie I watched a couple months ago that I forgot the name of with Denzels son. It was mid but enjoyable despite the huge set of issues I had with the movie.
Reminds me of that one scifi movie I watched a couple months ago that I forgot the name of with Denzels son. It was mid but enjoyable despite the huge set of issues I had with the movie.
thefool
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Fincher should rethink his career.
Too much heat killing a billionaire.
He explains his reasoning beforehand, police match their effort in direct proportion of a victim net worth
He explains his reasoning beforehand, police match their effort in direct proportion of a victim net worth
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NecrosaroIII
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Was kind of boring. Fassbender was okay but the narration got old real quick. I didn't find it particularly amusing or stylistic. Hard to believe Fincher worked on this project for like 15 years apparently
WhatDidHeSay?
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I found it boring. Boring, pretentious and up its own arse. Looks good though with some artsy shots - heck, even the sound track of The Smiths (fave band) couldn't make me like it.
Style over substance.
Style over substance.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
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I liked it, but I see how people would dislike this film. It certainly felt like one of Fincher's weakest films.
Didn't see any trailer and won't watch it, but how does it compare to something like "Mr. Brooks" (if any one remembers it)?
"Mr. Brooks" deals with a character who wants to live a normal life, but is bound to his inner demon.
"The Killer" seem to be about a psychopath hired to kill and I dunno what else.
I remember people went wild for Mr. Brooks in the theatre, but I have no idea why. Movie wasn't all that.
"Mr. Brooks" deals with a character who wants to live a normal life, but is bound to his inner demon.
"The Killer" seem to be about a psychopath hired to kill and I dunno what else.
I remember people went wild for Mr. Brooks in the theatre, but I have no idea why. Movie wasn't all that.
SJRB
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Just finished this and I really, really enjoyed it. This movie just ticks all the right marks for me. I went in completely blind so I had no idea what to expect aside from Fassbender being an assassin and I absolutely loved the slow, methodical pacing.
It doesn't have the grit or grime that often comes with a Fincher movie, but it still kept me on edge the entire time. The sequence with Tilda Swinton especially was superb.
Incredible soundtrack yet again from Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. They and Fincher are a god-tier combo.
It doesn't have the grit or grime that often comes with a Fincher movie, but it still kept me on edge the entire time. The sequence with Tilda Swinton especially was superb.
Incredible soundtrack yet again from Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. They and Fincher are a god-tier combo.
The Cockatrice
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I liked it, has quite the attention to detail, the ending was meh tho, so overall i'd give it a 7.5/10.
SJRB
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Badlucktroll
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Reznor should do more orchestral soundtracks. Mank was 
really liked it and will watch a second time somewhen. I liked the minimalistic approach without unnecessary side plots or extra lore and more trying to justify or padding the plot. No police trying to get him, no side romance or anything like that. Straightforward and to the point, also without any unnecessary action, making that one action scene really tense and impactful.
Also, first person narrative is quite rare these days in films and I enjoyed having this killer intimate perspective and seeing how he sometimes contradicts himself.
Also, first person narrative is quite rare these days in films and I enjoyed having this killer intimate perspective and seeing how he sometimes contradicts himself.
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