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The New JL Trailer is Everything Wrong With DC's Dark Movie Universe
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Future Foundation
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But it does, Spacey. It's a *WAR*.
illmatic22
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Especially when Monsterverse is better
Yep...
I used to think Hillary and the GSW took the biggest Ls of 2016, but the more I think about it, the DC diehards deserve to be in that category.
They waited 3yrs after MoS to get a new movie. 3yrs of nothing but anger and jealousy as they watched Marvel collect Ws. I mean, Marvel was out here making C-listers like GotG (with a talking tree and raccoon) a household name and almost a $750M franchise, while they waited.
After 3yrs of waiting, BvS was supposed to be the movie they could thump their chest over.
They waited 3yrs after MoS to get a new movie. 3yrs of nothing but anger and jealousy as they watched Marvel collect Ws. I mean, Marvel was out here making C-listers like GotG (with a talking tree and raccoon) a household name and almost a $750M franchise, while they waited.
After 3yrs of waiting, BvS was supposed to be the movie they could thump their chest over.
Messofanego
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Your ad hominem is showing, that's for sure.
I'll drink to that.
This is too much light.
is a snapchat filter better than a tv show?
I'll drink to that.
I watched Kong last weekend. I....I might have liked Godzilla 2014 a little better.
Still, I just want a modern Kong vs Godzilla movie.
I don't mind you posting one way or another, but like I said in my first post, I wish it was original.
The article is just listing the same things everyone has said a thousand times over. Not enough color, not fun, dark and bleak, blah blah blah.
Find an article that says something new about the DC universe, and then I'll be super impressed.
Frozenprince
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Something it took Marvel a few slight duds (IM2, Thor the darkening) to get that it's not always just about the jokes and the money shot.
DOWN
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Watchmen is beautiful if you can get over the difference in colors compared to the comicsCan't a man just unabashedly love to desaturate and blue the shit out of everything?
And frankly there's a lot of incredible serious movies that have dark desaturated blues
Honestly Zack Snyder's visuals aren't an inherent problem and it seems like many people take issue with what in particular about the visuals clashes with their idea of the comics
whew I always like Nolan's tendency for that desturated blue world with splashes of candle warmth
I don't search for these articles or even go to sites that post about em except GAF because it really doesn't matter to me.
Hey DC,
I don't understand the "Nolan's movies were dark" consensus that floats around the web. His Batman movies were serious and grounded in the modern world, but I never considered them dark in terms of story, tone, or visuals. For example, regarding visuals scenes that take place at night in TDKT are still well lit, because they're mostly shot in real locations.
Here's a screencap from TDKR.
Snyder's movies depends much more heavily on CGI, and it's possible that the darker palette is intended to be more accommodating of that. I'm no expert but lighting always seems to be the toughest part of making CGI feel real, and by going "dark" you're essentially blurring the line between real and CGI. However, I watched that JL trailer multiple times, and on every viewing some of those nighttime shots just looked worse and worse. The CGI is by no means done, but the color palette and overall aesthetic is much to indulgent and unrestrained. Of course, it's a matter of personal tastes.
I don't understand the "Nolan's movies were dark" consensus that floats around the web. His Batman movies were serious and grounded in the modern world, but I never considered them dark in terms of story, tone, or visuals. For example, regarding visuals scenes that take place at night in TDKT are still well lit, because they're mostly shot in real locations.
Here's a screencap from TDKR.
Here's the same shot, Snyderized.
Snyder's movies depends much more heavily on CGI, and it's possible that the darker palette is intended to be more accommodating of that. I'm no expert but lighting always seems to be the toughest part of making CGI feel real, and by going "dark" you're essentially blurring the line between real and CGI. However, I watched that JL trailer multiple times, and on every viewing some of those nighttime shots just looked worse and worse. The CGI is by no means done, but the color palette and overall aesthetic is much to indulgent and unrestrained. Of course, it's a matter of personal tastes.
broncobuster
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What, you don't like going to any slightly negative Marvel thread to see "but DC!" or any slightly negative DC thread to see "but Marvel!"?
Because DC Studios is a thing, apparently, and DC Studios and Marvel Studios are the only two studios releasing movies. A whopping six movies released this year. Feel that fatigue.
It'd be interesting to read a story about how aspects of the trailers and marketing change until release. For instance, that the JL trailer is actually older and less complete than other marketing material shown. Trailer is from early December.
Future Foundation
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What the fuck is "big mad" or "little mad"?
"Does your provoked discomfort please me or does it please me greatly"?
It's green + gold, looks ok!
family_guy
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Has anyone read a DC comic lately? It's not exactly kid stuff anymore.
Lol, it's not even like I have a bias.
I posted an articke sent to me yo and some people, like always, get hurt that the movies they like are insulted.
Ain't that serious.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Because comic books are all about being bright and colorful. Desaturating all of the color seems to be missing the point. Especially the fuckin Justice League of America.
Some faithfulness to the source material would be appreciated.
The article is junk.
If there are any problems with DC movies, it's mostly script/editing related so far IMHO. Of course, you have to see the movie to make that call, you can't go by trailers alone. The whole "darkness" angle seems completely subjective to me and it is a lazy way to put down a movie long before it's even out.
If there are any problems with DC movies, it's mostly script/editing related so far IMHO. Of course, you have to see the movie to make that call, you can't go by trailers alone. The whole "darkness" angle seems completely subjective to me and it is a lazy way to put down a movie long before it's even out.
It looks like a guy in a Batman suit in his neighbor's yard at 3AM on the third Tuesday of the month.
Why is it that every time the discussion turns to "bu-bu-but Marvel!" rather than defending the DCEU on its own merits?
HP_Wuvcraft
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Is this a serious post?
Just_myles
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I don't know OP.
Aquaman:
"Dress as a bat, I dig it."
and
"Yayuh!"
So not so grim-dark.
Not faithfulness. Respect.
Aquaman:
"Dress as a bat, I dig it."
and
"Yayuh!"
So not so grim-dark.
Not faithfulness. Respect.
Anton Sugar
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Nothing ends, SpaceWolf. Nothing ever ends.
I'll drink to that.
Shot by Larry Fong, no less. Snyder's go-to DP.
Did you read that I didn't exactly agree with the article? Probably not.
Because the article in question is directly comparing the two universes?
Just_myles
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Think you misunderstood my post. I should have added a question mark at my last comment. I was sarcastically referencing and commenting on the link you posted.
MarkMclovin
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We've come to an age where we can't just enjoy the movies they put out anymore.
PanSexual_Peacock
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Too much blue and teal. Everything needs to look flat and muted.
DC literally just needed to make all its directors watch the animated Justice League and JL Unlimited, and BTAS for the batman standalone film. Tell them to not directly copy it, but to at least take some lessons from its light hearted episodes and inject that into the films.
If they could have nailed the general feel and the serious moments, it would have been pretty great I think.
If they could have nailed the general feel and the serious moments, it would have been pretty great I think.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Opinions are like that.
broncobuster
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MisterHero
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An article can slam DC by citing Marvel's work, but DC / fans aren't allowed to critique Marvel?
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Yup, I liked Gozilla 2014 better and that had its own problems.
Hopefully they have big improvements for Gozilla 2018. I really hope that turns out great.
SlimySnake
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What a load of horse shit.
Regardless, Zach Snyder has made three very comic book looking movies and is going all out this time around in terms of style and color pallet. it looks like a comic book. it moves like a comic book panel. very hyperrealistic and stylized. you cannot look at the gifs below and say it's desaturated. the colors are very vivid despite being set at night. it looks stunning. Homecoming wishes it looked this good. Oh and King Kong's cinematographer was Larry Fong who also happened to be the Director of Photography on BvS.
What an awful complaint. The movie looks fucking stunning. BvS despite its problems looked amazing and should've been nominated for best cinematography. Man Of Steel had multiple action scenes including the finale set during the day. The grey cloudy look at the end of the fight is the result of the destruction from the world engine. Nearly all of BvS's scenes were set at night because nearly all of the action scenes in the movie were Batman fighting things and Batman doesnt usually fight during the day.
Regardless, Zach Snyder has made three very comic book looking movies and is going all out this time around in terms of style and color pallet. it looks like a comic book. it moves like a comic book panel. very hyperrealistic and stylized. you cannot look at the gifs below and say it's desaturated. the colors are very vivid despite being set at night. it looks stunning. Homecoming wishes it looked this good. Oh and King Kong's cinematographer was Larry Fong who also happened to be the Director of Photography on BvS.
Honestly just ha I g this sort of through process irconicly lumps you in with the the DC diehards.
It's just comics and movies folks.
Killing_Joke
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So Spiderman or MCU are automatically considered a better movie because it has colors...? ok.
What movies are considered visually better then MOS or BVS anyways? Funny thing is TWS is my favorite MCU movie they toned down the color a lot compared to Avengers. Guess I'm in the minority who prefer the dark look.
What movies are considered visually better then MOS or BVS anyways? Funny thing is TWS is my favorite MCU movie they toned down the color a lot compared to Avengers. Guess I'm in the minority who prefer the dark look.
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