remember_spinal
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https://www.famitsu.com/news/202210/27280714.html
PlayStation 5 – 1'749'737
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 278'046
Total = 2'027'783
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The PS5 officially crosses the 2 Million unit mark in Japan
- Thread starter remember_spinal
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https://www.famitsu.com/news/202210/27280714.html
PlayStation 5 – 1'749'737
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 278'046
Total = 2'027'783
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Banjo64
cumsessed
PS4 hit 2.35m after 2 years in Japan.
Failing to see that. Why would it be twice as successful as the PS4? Maybe you could add 0.4m or so, but I doubt it’d be more.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
theres no covid when PS4 launch.
nah thats way too low. Covid hits hard, if there isnt covid, maybe not 4 mil but definitely not 0.4m LOL
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
PlayStation 5 – 1'749'737
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 278'046
Total = 2'027'783
Man, that $399 edition was just made to get those $399 headlines wasnt it? I always knew it was going to be undershipped but by 9:1? WTF?
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 278'046
Total = 2'027'783
Man, that $399 edition was just made to get those $399 headlines wasnt it? I always knew it was going to be undershipped but by 9:1? WTF?
splattered
Member
If there was no covid people in japan would have been out and about more regardless of system availability... they just don't play console games as much anymore. Sure, they would have sold more if there was better stock, but by how much?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Very nice
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They probably lose money on it, since it's the same spec minus the $15-20 drive.
If the rumors are true about the revision with optional drive, it was be all digital by default. By then manufacturing/shipping (weight) costs will be lower as well.
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remember_spinal
Banned
If it were, it wouldn’t be mass produced in a place like Japan. Physical is still really popular there and retailers want the business badly.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
There was no switch when the PS4 launched. Probably the biggest factor. New king of the hill.
Banjo64
cumsessed
There’s a fine line with demand.
The initial surge has now ended in countries like the UK, where stock is now sitting in place.
It’s pretty much on even keel with the PS4, maybe slightly ahead launch aligned.
a multicultural team of v
Member
If Sony is going to sell every single PS5 built, they have an incentive to prioritize producing the most expensive one because it means more money. Once demand becomes lower than supply (whenever that is) I would imagine the ratio would start trending more balanced.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Switch existed for a long time now, and its a very old hardware. Alot of people have switch now, and who said they cant have both Playstation and switch?
Guess we shall see the next few years how Playstation sells in Japan.
remember_spinal
Banned
almost everyone at an exec level at SIE has been in Japan for the past week, probably ramping for next year.
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my issue is aligning the two, the BOM isn't going to be changing a huge amount and imo, neither is the shipping costs. might be off on that assumption though.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
2M in less than 2 years is not bad.
Next year there’s FFXVI and knows what else…
Next year there’s FFXVI and knows what else…
GymWolf
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Smaller form factor (if they indeed go that route) is more units on a pallet. The units should also be lighter with the smaller apu/heatsink, etc..
Over time, consoles have always reduced in BOM/shipping costs due to these very changes.
vivftp
Member
The PS5 was planned to sell at a faster pace than the PS4 before the console launched. They managed to hit 10 million faster than the PS4, but component shortages kneecapped them and the PS5 currently is behind the PS4 launch aligned. Sony has said they expect the PS5 sales curve to surpass the PS4 sales curve during the next FY (April 1 2023 to March 31 2024). Going by that statement, Sony would have to ship over 23 million PS5's next FY to achieve that goal. According to Tom Henderson, they're aiming for 30.5 million PS5's next FY. Either figure would be a new record for PlayStation consoles in a single FY.
2023's shaping up to be a huge year for PlayStation and it looks like they're aiming to flood the market with games and consoles. Even PSVR2 is said to be shipping far more units than PSVR did when launch aligned.
Mr Moose
Member
371,997.How much have xbox sold?
a multicultural team of v
Member
I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I wonder if Sony is ramping up for a "relaunch" so to speak in Japan once the Final Fantasy games start hitting. In the next 6 months they should have the stock situation in a much better place, so maybe they will do some type of marketing blowout in Japan to say "hey Japan we still exist and there are Japanese games coming and even better you can actually buy a PS5 in a store now."
remember_spinal
Banned
They actually actively have them in stock in japan right now…im guessing there is going to be a big marketing campaign again like you said for stuff like final fantasy xvi, rebirth, street fighter and tekken, and eventually monster hunter and DQXII
Rise of The Ronin seems perfectly timed also
vivftp
Member
I don't think this gonna be a Japan only thing, but a global push. Due to pandemic delays they've been more or less coasting on games that were announced back in 2020 with God of War being the last first party title in that list. There's very little officially known about their future first party games with a few exceptions and they've been purposefully holding back a showcase to give us the next wave of games that they want to market. Not to mention they still have to get the PSVR2 launch date/price out there to open pre-orders. Combine that with the metric fuckton of consoles rumored to be available next year, and it feels like they could draw a line in the sand to begin their post-pandemic re-launch.
I do firmly believe that 2023 has a lot potential to rival 2020 in terms of the sheer amount of first party and console exclusive titles they could put out there.
Think size is the bigger issue for these kind of shipments but again could be wrong. The size is going to be the bigger thing, it would be interesting to see the price point that they can hit.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
From what I understand, overseas shipping is based on pallet size and weight of the pallet. If they shrink the console down, lighten it, etc., like all past consoles, that is more consoles on a pallet per weight ratio. More money in the end per unit for similar or not much more shipping costs.
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Ghost of Caelid
Banned
When the ps4 dropped the wii u was the hardware nintendo put out. Since then the switch dropped, dominated the country and occupied the entire mind space, that naturally will have an impact on sales. People can have both but competition rarely benefits the previous market leader.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Covid probably didn't make that much of a difference in Japan. You would expect people to buy more of them if they had to stay home all the time. The difference between PS4 and PS5 is likely Switch more than Covid. Their weekly game charts are mostly Switch games.
remember_spinal
Banned
Nintendo will need to keep that momentum launching their next hardware soon, while the ps5 stock increases and more big japanese games start coming out. The next 4 years are not certain as to what will happen.
Japan has been on a lottery system since launch and has had high scalping to other regions. The demand isn’t really close to being met there
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Further indication that Covid isn't the reason why fewer PS5's have been sold in Japan than PS4 in the same timeframe.
remember_spinal
Banned
What do you mean, its all directly related to low stock caused by covid. None of the above are still happening otherwise
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MatrixReloaded101
Member
How much did the PS4 sell in the same time period? Curious
Captain Toad
Banned
It's that close to the PS4 even despite the chip shortages and COVID and people still try to paint the narrative PlayStation is dead in Japan?
need to update my dashboard but just think it took 95 weeks to hit 2m for the PS4
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Mr Moose
Member
1,814,533 - wait PS4 released at a later date, I am using the same weekly numbers lol.
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solidus12
Member
Remember when the media was making a fuss about Xbox outselling PS5 in Japan?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...ominating-playstation-in-japan-of-all-places/
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-series-xs-outselling-ps5-in-japan
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-series-x-s-has-outsold-ps5-in-japan-again/1100-6504863/
Yikes...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...ominating-playstation-in-japan-of-all-places/
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-series-xs-outselling-ps5-in-japan
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-series-x-s-has-outsold-ps5-in-japan-again/1100-6504863/
Yikes...
Mr Moose
Member
Yeah I forgot it released in February in Japan, I was using the week number
From 3/4 weeks ago, so now on week 102 i think
mitch1971
Member
remember_spinal
Banned
Yeah thats why its always been incredibly dumb comparing weekly numbers but don’t let the stop them from getting clicks
AncientOrigin
Member
The biggest question is how many games are sold on it?The Japanese rarely buy games even the big name studios even the Japanese ones famous games are sold very low compared to the hardware base.I remember on PS4 with a hardware base very high probably over 10 million Resident Evil sold between 500.000 - 1 million or so western games sell even less a few 100.000.
