Cauliflower of Love
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Ooooh, do you have some insider info?
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Trump on Russia indictment: Why Didn’t Obama Do Something?
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Ooooh, do you have some insider info?
Arkage
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You: They're my pearls to clutch...mine, mine, mine! How dare you speak of my pearls!
please continue the pearl fondling. Just trying to bring you up to speed....its 2018. Bill Clinton not Only grabbed a few pussies, he stuck his cigar in one! Obama is gay and his wife is a tranny according to the late Joan Rivers. So he's probably had a few cocks up his ass.....it's not unheard of with people in power to have fetishes. God forbid speaking about grabbing pussies.
You: My mouth is a garbage can, and I embrace the nihilistic destruction of ethical norms.
Trump bombed Syria and doubled the number of air strikes, which ended up dramatically increasing civilian deaths to the point of surpassing the entire 8 years of the Obama administration within his first seven months. Very peaceful, wow.
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infinitys_7th
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Somehow I doubt that includes the civilian deaths in Libya and elsewhere where Obama and Hillary let ISIS take over.
Arkage
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/world/africa/us-airstrikes-isis-libya.html
Tell me about Libya again.
PkunkFury
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You: They're my pearls to clutch...mine, mine, mine! How dare you speak of my pearls!
Obama is gay and his wife is a tranny is an actual right wing conspiracy? wow.
I guess because Obama didn't have any craxy sex scandals, that defacto makes him gay?
way to make yourself seem sane
Cauliflower of Love
Banned
People literally gave up on being sane when Obama didn't fuck shit up and just went crazy outright.
Vicetrailia
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It's been a thing for a while now. He's been on the chopping block due to the recuse.
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PkunkFury
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yes, but not due to the war on drugs.
Hasn't Trump been pushing for harsher dealer penalties (death)? Doesn't he praise Duterte? Also, his budgets and his anti-immigration talking points are all full stop war on drugs. Is there any evidence Trump wants to ease up on the war on drugs and Sessions is a road block?
I'd love to know why you think Trump wants to wind down the war on drugs. Might make me like Trump more
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infinitys_7th
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Fixing Obama's mess.
We have not entered into any new conflicts or tried to nation build since Trump came into office. The CIA has been reigned in.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
So in classic Trump 101 fashion its deflect to Obama and/or Hillary at every possible opportunity. The only people that will fall for this kind of distraction are the people who support him.
Its really not that hard to debunk this kind of speculation if you think about it rationally for longer than a few minutes.
Its really not that hard to debunk this kind of speculation if you think about it rationally for longer than a few minutes.
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Dev1lXYZ
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https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/04/show...ers-michelle-obama-gay-transgender/index.html
It made waves in the media. CNN tried to play it off as a 'joke'. Joan wasn't joking. It was said matter of factly.
infinitys_7th
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I mean, I know Obama and Hillary wanted cannibals to rule Libya so that France could wash away their oil debts (and Sarkozy could wash away his illicit donations from Gadaffi) with the blood of the innocent, but I guess Trump rectifying that in the only way possible is "warlike".
Unlike DPRK or Cuba, you can't negotiate with ISIS. It's not a state. It's not trying to develop. It doesn't change or advance. It just wants to conquer, and it is something the US has direct responsibility for creating (under Bush, with spreading "muh democracy") and promoting (under Obama, in Libya, Egypt, Syria, and other countries where the CIA conducted their Arab Winter ops).
Obama just passed the buck. The blood is on his, and Hillary's, hands.
PkunkFury
Member
okay...
and you believe this? because of this video clip?
This is not making you look any less gullible
Do you believe everything anyone rambles on the street? Based on this thread my guess is no, unless it confirms your biases, in which case, exuberantly yes...
What is your stance on Putin's love of little boys? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/22/alexander-litvinenko-slain-ex-kgb-spy-accused-puti/
Concerning your claim:
Why is Joan Rivers the expert on this subject again? Do you believe Michelle Obama confided in her about her trans status?
Or let's look at some of the obvious.
just Google 'young Michelle Obama'. I'm not going to bother posting the pics, because this is obviously stupid
Wow, look at all of those pictures of Michelle Obama when she was a young girl. Did the "libs" play the long game here? Did they operate on Michelle when she was a child to ensure their presidential hopeful could marry a trans man in 20 years? God, Soros is good at this stuff
Let's also consider that Michelle has had two children, one of which is female and looks exactly like her. OMG, is Malia also trans? Could post-op women even give birth in the 90s? Wouldn't this have been news? Did the hospitals hide all of this shit for the Obamas? How on Earth do you believe they could keep this a secret in today's era of shit-slinging? Michelle would have to be on hormones. Trump couldn't hide Propecia
Now about Obama. Well, we could accuse pretty much any man in power of being secretly closeted, if they are willing to jump through every hoop available to suck a dick under the radar, but once again, that you think Obama could keep this quiet under the scrutiny he received says more about you than him.
Anyway, it's not often we get an article where one of our world leader's exes admits he's veritable fuck machine, but if you really want to know how much Obama likes the ladies, here you go: https://nypost.com/2017/05/04/new-book-details-barack-obamas-wild-days-in-the-1980s/. Nevermind that Obama has a wife, and a family...
But I guess the libs were playing the long game here, too. Genevieve Cook sounds like a good crisis actor name. They must have hired her to be Barack's beard in the 80s so they could get this article out there in time to save his image
The fact that you push this crap shows you are either hopelessly ignorant, or just plain dishonest. Whatever is motivating you, the result is that you willingly drag public discourse to rock bottom. But, do go ahead, prove to me that yes, Michele Obama may indeed be a tranny and Barrack may indeed be gay. Maybe I'm wrong about you
also, bonus points for stacking a CNN conspiracy on top of this. Not only is Michelle at tranny, but CNN tried to "play it off as a joke". Earn those Mercer bucks
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Arkage
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It's called deadpan humor. Look it up.
Did you forget we are arguing about whether Trump was "peaceful"? Which he isn't. Because of his massive civilian casualty count, continuation of drone strikes, and a huge expansion on air strikes. "But Trump had to do it to clean up the mess!" Lol, Christ, give me a minute and let me use that excuse for Obama's actions in having to clean up Bush. And Bush having to clean up Clinton, and Clinton having to clean up Bush Sr. Oh pray tell where does the buck stop. Also, Obama didn't start anything in Libya. "Obama should've stayed out of Libya. Wait no, Obama should've cleaned up Libya. No that's not right, he should've intervened to stop Libya from having a civil war in the first place and helped them nation build. Wait nation building is bad. Well, whatever, it's Obama's fault."
infinitys_7th said:
Somebody fell down the tin foil hat conspiracy hole and can't get out. It's clever you inserted a factual allegation (Sarkozy/Gadaffi) into a sweepingly conspiratorial claim, it's a good way to make horseshit stink a little less. You clearly know how this works.
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Cauliflower of Love
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You don't know about the cannibals?!
Cauliflower of Love
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better be medium rare at least
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Are you doing this on purpose? My post was clearly referring to scandals during the 2016 election which are even specifically(ish) named in the picture.
If it was clear, I was being sarcastic.
i_am_ben
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You don't know about the cannibals?!
Cannibalism seems like par of the course for Grillery11!!!1!
Panda1
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why would the fbi take control of the server? That's your question !! My gosh thanks for waking me up with a nice laugh. Im asuming you are not an IT professional who works in cyber security.
Panda1
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Dev1lXYZ
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Speaking of 'deadpan humor' isn't it a bit strange that Joan Rivers ended up dead from a routine operation not long afterward? Larry Sinclair has also provided his homosexual experiences with Senator Obama in 1999. So, if the stories are to be believed- he cheated on Michelle- a scandal. Does it mean a hill of beans? Not really. Fast forward to the present day- do the Trump 'scandals' mean a hill of beans- again, not really. That's the point I'm making here- this stuff is fodder for the masses and means little to nothing to the average voter.
Are you copy and pasting 4chan posts or something
It’s a valid question. They would only take possession of it if they needed to. Most of the needed forensic data can be replicated on-site and taken back to a lab within a few hours. There’s not really an explicit need to take physical possession of a server just to do intrusion forensics...
But, Im asuming you are not an IT professional who works in cyber security. Or if you are, not a very good one...
Dev1lXYZ
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Again, the scandals mentioned mean nothing to the average voter. If they did the approval polls would a reflect something. Trump's approval is just as high or higher than Obama's during the same first term period.
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Cauliflower of Love
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Obama was president during the economy collapsing.
trump is president during the peak of the economy rebounding.
So you are? None of your posts make sense or even reply to what I say.
Dev1lXYZ
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Until you read what I have been saying and understand you are hereby being ignored. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend what I'm conveying.
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Dev1lXYZ
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Obama promised hope and change and failed.
Trump promised to Make America Great Again and has succeeded.
lol
Cauliflower of Love
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The entire economic recovery was because of the ARRA that happened at the beginning of the Obama presidency. The trillion dollar "debt" that was signed was co signed by both the Bush economic team and the incoming Obama economic team.
This is because it was actual fucking economist in the works preventing the collapse of the world economy.
The ACA was an extension of this, and this has sustained a further indirect economy.
But yea, trump coming in and trying to own an unemployment trend that took seven years to start is him making america great again. FOH
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Interesting how that works huh?
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Dev1lxyz enlightening the world, one day at a time. Thank you for your intellect - if it wasn't for you I would not know Michelle Obama is transgendered.
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12Goblins
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That's funny man. My colleague voted for Trump because he promised to end the war in Afghanistan, and now her husband is being sent there in less than 10 days. He's going to be there for 2 years on the front lines and likely die there, leaving behind 3 kids.
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Dev1lXYZ
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So what if she is? I'd love it if Obama came out! It wouldn't be politically damaging at this point, anyway.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
I love that this is all it takes to manipulate trump voters. That's how deep the critical thinking goes...
"putin was extremely strong in his denial" vs
undenial evidence...
Hm
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Arkage
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What does that have to do with the FBI clearly being able to track down individual Russians without taking possessions of the DNC server.
It's people like you that make realize that my grandmother, who loved George Bush, hated Obama, and is OK with Trump, is actually pretty sane in her political beliefs. Because you are absolutely in love with internet conspiracy to the point where you may have some sort of mental health issue, all joking aside. The guy who made all of your Obama allegations of gay sex and etc, has a criminal record of 27 years. He has committed fraud repeatedly. He has 13 alias names because of his fraud attempts. But, yes, let's take his word that he had gay sex with Obama, because that certainly is a credible source when combined with Joan fucking Rivers. https://www.politico.com/story/2008/06/obama-accuser-has-long-rap-sheet-011164
The difference here is that all of the accusations made against Trump are based upon the shit that comes out of his own mouth. Trump is the one who said he could shoot someone in the street and lose no voters. Trump is the one who signed a now public hush money deal with a porn star. Trump is the one who said a latino judge shouldn't be allowed to sit on his case, which even Republicans called "textbook racism." Trump is the one who is on tape saying he grabbed women by the pussy. Trump is the one who endorsed an accused pedophile for Senate. None of these claims require some crack pot story from a 27 year criminal like your Obama stories do. The fact is that Trump has the most amount of credible, factual instances of unethical behavior ever seen in a President. If all these things meant nothing to the average voter than why did Hillary have 3 million more votes than Trump despite her huge amount of baggage? Because plenty of "average voters" were literally disgusted by Trump.
And once again you are crapping words out your butt. Do you look up anything, ever? Like any statistics or data, ever? Trump has had the lowest average approval rating of any President on record. Specifically, Obama had an approval of 50% in his first year, and Trump is at 40%. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ Here you can see Trump's approval rating compared to past American presidents. Hint: he's doing horribly.
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I love that this is all it takes to manipulate trump voters. That's how deep the critical thinking goes...
"putin was extremely strong in his denial" vs
undenial evidence...
Hm
That Trump voters don't care about what you care about, does not prove they were manipulated.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Im talking about how quick the right went from Obama is too weak to face putin to we are OK with trump being putins bitch and being ok with Russian meddling in our election process. When asked today if trump believes putins denial of election meddling over our own intelligence reports that show unquestionable evidence of Russian election meddling, Trump could not answer.
Also apparently today putin was always first to speak over trump, despite that countries gdp being x20 smaller than ours..
Make America great, right guys
Time to eat crow
BANGS
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I'd assume because doing so would have lifted the veil on alot of Democratic corruption even earlier in the election cycle...
A person is not manipulated if they recognize the disproportionate threat that stems from invading / annexing land of another, and hacking /sharing the emails of the DNC (and trolling on Twitter).
Dev1lXYZ
Member
Oh no, not the ‘attack the individual strategy’- straight from the neoliberal playbook.
Larry Sinclair
http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/libel-case-against-obamas-gay-accuser-tossed/
Larry Sinclair – who claims he twice engaged in sexual activity and used cocaine with Obama in 1999 when Obama was an Illinois state senator – was accused by Internet publisher Daniel Parisi of making false and damaging statements that led to the demise of Parisi’s porn website, Whitehouse.com, in 2008.
The alleged defamation did not center on Sinclair’s charges of sex and drugs with Obama but on Sinclair’s claim in his 2009 book that the Obama campaign and top adviser David Axelrod had agreed to pay Parisi $750,000 to rig the results of a polygraph test.
Parisi failed to present any evidence that Sinclair’s claim about Axelrod and the Obama campaign was false, wrote U.S. District Court Judge Richard J. Leon in his Feb. 28 opinion dismissing the case.
I do say, his story held up in court old chap!
Let’s next address the Presidential approval ratings.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-higher-823037
As of 2/2018 Trumps approval ratings are 50% per Rasmussen, which this article states are higher than Obamas! Holy shit!
So, the next time you start throwing insults my way, check yourself before you wreck yourself, homie.
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Deleted member 12837
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lol @ cherry-picking a single poll and claiming victory. Nice try. I do continue to get a good chuckle out of your posts, though.
I think 538's methology might be paint just a little bit more realistic of a picture.
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PkunkFury
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So now Michelle is trans, CNN is covering it up, AND the democrats had Joan Rivers killed because she spilled the beans? Wow, you have really sluethed this one out
gee, Michelle Obama sure played the long game, identifying as a woman from the age of 7 and all. Her parents were mighty progressive for black folk in the 70s, letting her dress like a girl and do ballet
Gotta give her credit, though. She did a damn good job hiding the sausage in those tights
But now I get why this is so important to you. Michelle Obama has to be trans for your theory that the democrats murdered Joan Rivers to pan out... Just keep jamming those puzzle pieces until they fit!
Pretend that this is only in the liberal playbook, as I'm sure that helps you feel justifiably persecuted
However, when the individual has an arrest record which prominently features 'fraud', yes, that sort of record is reasonable to consider when he's making wild accusations in an attempt to make money selling a book
It's like you have no understanding of what you are posting
The defamation case was about statements made by Sinclair concerning Parisi. The judge wasn't litigating Obama being gay. And the case was thrown out, most likely because Parisi has no means of proving Sinclair did not get an anonymous phone call. Mostly the case sounds ridiculous as Parisi was trying to get 30 million for damages he claims were suffered before the book was even published
Much like Parisi could not prove defamation, Sinclair has been unable to prove anything about Obama. We live in a country where people are only guilty once proven. This works for both Sinclair and Obama. The court case being thrown out does not prove what Sinclair said was true. So no, you are wrong, his story did not hold up in court. It never made it to court
Sinclair has drawn this out for years, he's mixed up names and stories, and he's never provided any proof whatsoever that any of this happened (credit card statements, phone records, witnesses). He also has a history of committing fraud
But I see why you care about this one so much too. Because it leads to some extra goofy string of supposed murders covering Obama's drug use and gay sex. Amazing how these all lead to murder!
Don't you ever wake up in the morning and wonder what the people who are warping your reality are getting out of you?
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Dev1lXYZ
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I love that on a day where it is basically confirmed that Trump colluded with Russia, the most popular threads on this forum are about Hillary and Obama.
Disillusionement hurts
Where collusion been proven? You mean when Obama was caught on a hot mic in 2012 speaking with Russian President Medvedev promising that after the election, he would have ‘more flexibility’ regarding US Missile defense?
https://www.wsj.com/video/obama-medvedev-hot-mic-gaffe/5F7CF09D-CFD5-4805-A72C-3378D5F8371E.html
DasPenguin
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Also doesn’t account the six figure death toll on civilians caused by the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Are you shocked America tried to stay away from the Middle East after completely messing up the region by an illegal war? When you spend trillions and achieve nothing it’s usually to right move to leave.
By the way: collusion is a cool word and Trump and Fox seem to love it. Haven’t heard or read that once in any FBI statement, but hey, that’s not important at all. When did this become a place for Fox News fan club?
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