I'm not sure about the lowering of the age. People do actually mature just in general as they age. I'm not sure I want an 18 year old in federal politics and I know I don't want a 25 year old leading the country (I could maybe go with 30). They've even shown studies that people change a lot from 20-30 and more solidify around 30. Yes, that means that the younger politician would be more malleable, but it also means you may not know what you are voting for later on. And they haven't had time to really experience life and understand things better (I know even at 25 there are things I'm wiser about now).
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WaPo: Half Of GOP Voters Would Support Postponing 2020 Elections
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I'm not sure about the lowering of the age. People do actually mature just in general as they age. I'm not sure I want an 18 year old in federal politics and I know I don't want a 25 year old leading the country (I could maybe go with 30). They've even shown studies that people change a lot from 20-30 and more solidify around 30. Yes, that means that the younger politician would be more malleable, but it also means you may not know what you are voting for later on. And they haven't had time to really experience life and understand things better (I know even at 25 there are things I'm wiser about now).
"OMG Muslims are invading! Sad! Check Breitbart.com and FoxNews.com for the latest updates! #MAGA"
-@realdonaldtrump
Is there anything in the constitution that mandates that a threat to our public safety has to be real, or is a tweet from an asshole toward his droves of cult-like followers sufficient?
This is also the first I've heard of this.
I will admit I've joked about it (mainly after Trump won) but I don't seriously think it's a good idea. I mean I fully admit I emotionally wouldn't be as outraged if it were Obama but I know on principle it's still a bad idea and I'd still protest it. Because the rule is a good one and yes sometimes it means some one you like is in shorter than you'd like but it also means a bad president can't stay there too long either and I think that latter part is more important. It's called being able to think past the present (when some one you like is in charge) and look at what effects it also has later on as well.
-Plasma Reus-
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Proof that only fortune prevents the stupid from turning every country into a dictatorship.
Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan these countries have the same kind of people among them and all of those countries are an example of what happens when they succeed.
Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan these countries have the same kind of people among them and all of those countries are an example of what happens when they succeed.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Probably, yeah. Unless the American public turn against him so much by then (still plenty of time for that) that he has no chance of winning even with mass fraud in his favour. The whole fake news shit is going to be dialled up to 1000% though.
The Last Wizard
Member
But when Obama was in office this thought would be considered treason, but now? It's all right cause it's all white.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
This is precisely why democrats need to get out and vote like crazy in 2018, considering the very real possibility that Republicans can get all they need for a total supermajority and can create and ratify constitutional amendments unchecked. If that happens, I guarantee you that the 22nd amendment is going bye-bye.
Yeah... NO. This get the Trump administration will not be stopped. His approval rating hit 39 percent six months in. Imagine how bad things get in 2020. He and this administration want to postpone the elections because they realize he's going to lose the popular vote by at least 10 million votes. At that point it's going to be damn hard to justify a 30 point victory in the electoral college.
The audacity of this in light of an ongoing criminal investigation into his family and campaign members is laughable. He really thinks the American people are idiots.
The audacity of this in light of an ongoing criminal investigation into his family and campaign members is laughable. He really thinks the American people are idiots.
ehh...i mean whats an acceptable amount? He got elected, he still has defenders, he still has a base. I'm not sure I can keep giving fellow Americans credit when they keep letting me down time and time and time again. Living in Florida doesn't help.
Schucky Ducky
Banned
He could try it I suppose. However, The Suspension Clause isn't clear about whether the power to suspend habeas corpus in times of Invasion or Rebellion lies with congress or the president. So in theory, congress may be able to stop such a suspension. And I can't see even the most conservative of courts upholding such a loose interpretation of the Suspension Clause.
I'm not a lawyer or an expert in constitutional law though.
……forgetit
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Honestly I'm surprised it's just half.
Well, to be fair this is without any proper propaganda push or spin in effect.
My thoughts exactly. If that happens, people need to GTFO out of this country. I already wish I could leave. Republicans are fucking pure evil and a threat to this country's founded principles. A threat to the future of the planet, really.
OG Shaka Zulu
Member
I can't believe how stupid some people are. They buy this voter fraud shit. Whatever man, I have family in Canada if we are heading towards dictatorship.
Mass Effect
Member
these people are fucking stupid.
if this actually happens (it won't) I'm illegally crossing the border to Canada, no joke. Consequences be damned.
if this actually happens (it won't) I'm illegally crossing the border to Canada, no joke. Consequences be damned.
LegendofJoe
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The country would likely break apart if this came to pass. The states of California, Nevada, Massachusetts, Maryland, New York, Connecticut, Washington, Oregon etc. would announce plans to leave the US and become Canadian provinces. So you'd likely only have to move to a state that joined Canada.
I mean, didn't Trudeau say something about people being welcome who are seeking asylum? In reference to Trump.
Omegasquash
Member
Fuck leaving.
That said, I'd send my wife and kids elsewhere if it got really, really bad.
That said, I'd send my wife and kids elsewhere if it got really, really bad.
I don't plan to stick around when the Repubs start proposing camps for people who aren't Christian, straight, cis, white, etc.
They've already embraced a shit ton of extremist fascist qualities. Hell, some have even proposed genocide and earnestly fucking meant it. These people are subhuman monsters.
FinaruDensetsu
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The other half wanted no more elections period.
LegendofLex
Member
It's almost like Republicans have been conditioned to accept changing the rules to keep Democrats from getting elected.
But then how will we create a perfect dictatorship theocracy with Trump as our God, geomon?
*barfs*
Omegasquash
Member
I feel you, and absolutely won't judge a single soul for high tailing it.
Not saying it'll get that far, but I do acknowledge that some of what's being proposed isn't discount villainy. It's straight up nefarious.
Carpe Carnim
Member
I completely understand this.
If the unthinkable were to happen I would also recommend my wife leave, but I am a cis White (passing) man with an advanced degree. I would consider sabotage of a fascist America to be my patriotic duty.
Technosteve
Banned
Cool but i get to keep my guns right?
Mass Effect
Member
I don't know about all that. If we were to honestly get to the point of "halting" elections in the interest of "national security" or "constitutional integrity," or whatever inane excuse they come up with, we will legitimately be facing a national crisis.
I really don't know what would happen to the country if we got to that point. I seriously doubt any of this will happen though, so I'm not going to worry about it too much.
I imagine this doesn't make the legal immigration process any easier? Because I will actually be starting that soon (yes really).
Omegasquash
Member
Let's be friends.
Carpe Carnim
Member
*Subterfuge Bro-Fist*
Megadragon15
Member
If this happens, I imagine the United States would dissolve because there are some states where the majority of their residents do not want a dictator. (Either through peace or civil war.)
Muppet of a Man
Member
Everything the Republicans worry about is projection of their own evil desires.
Look at the evil Republican fucks in the North Carolina state government, trying to limit the power of the governor when a democrat wins, These people are authoritarian/theocratic pieces of shit.
Exactly. They just don't want to be beat to the punch when its all said and done. They're deathly afraid of the boogeymen in their head that will do all the things to them that they're trying to do to the country as a whole.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. And I wouldn't be surprised if it actually came to pass either. A lot of Americans now have that uncomfortable feeling somewhere in the rational part of their brain that a democracy is not so effective if there are more brown and yellow people than white. The only way to ensure white superiority is to ignore numbers entirely and make sure the white people in charge stay in charge. Losing democracy is worth it to a racist.
gutter_trash
Banned
Authoritarianism doesn't care about democracy when it has attained power
Angelus Errare
Banned
You'll quickly get a bunch of thinkpieces about how that's never okay and isn't the right way.