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Who's the better filmmaker: Christopher Nolan or Martin Scorsese?

Nolan or Scorsese?


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Thank God for Internet movie masters like you fellas, I'm sure that these legendary directors aren't aware of their audio and editing, and they probably just need a couple geniuses like you guys to set em right. They've only gone and devoted their lives to film making, so they could pretty obviously use some gamers on an Internet forum as advisors to patch up these holes in their stellar catalogues.
We're free as consumers to critique the creative choices these guys make. I'm not the first and certainly won't be the last to highlight those two very valid points the other gaffer made. Professional critics have also highlighted them many times in the past.

Even great directors make creative choices that are worth debating. I don't worship these guys, I'd prefer to talk about there work. 🤷‍♂️
 
I like both's output, but Scorsese comes out just a little over Nolan for me. and I do agree both are in a different style/genre of film making that it's not really fair to compare them together.
 
The Prestige is well-made. Great actors & acting. But I kind of hate the twist. It's like if you find out in Goodfellas that Henry had a time machine, and that's why he was so good at avoiding arrest for so long. Totally nonsensical in an otherwise grounded movie.

I even prefer Interstellar's "love is a timeless cosmic force" to "rapid human cloning existed in the 1800s".
 
Nolan just isn't up there with the all time greats like Hitchcock or Bergman no matter how much people try to make this a thing.
 
I never liked Nolan's movies. Whenever i watch them i feel like he is somewhere watching me while he is smelling his own farts.

He also ruined a space movie with every stupid "love" and "family matters the most" based tropes that exist.
 
We're free as consumers to critique the creative choices these guys make. I'm not the first and certainly won't be the last to highlight those two very valid points the other gaffer made. Professional critics have also highlighted them many times in the past.

Even great directors make creative choices that are worth debating. I don't worship these guys, I'd prefer to talk about there work. 🤷‍♂️
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I'm fuckin with ya guys bro, it's all good. Marty definitely could stand to buy some scissors and Chrissy needs to get some hearing aids for sure lol, it's all good man, just having fun.
 
I personally prefer Nolan's movies a lot more. But I don't know who's technically the better filmmaker.
 
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Nolan, I'm not a big fan of crime/gangster dramas, mainly because the characters in them are often obnoxious assholes, and Nolan directed one of the best scifi movies ever which was my favorite genre
 
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Right now? Nolan, not even a contest. He also had a better career since he started versus Scorsese last 25 years (even tho I adore Silence).
If we're talking career-wise, I'll probably take Scorsese. He was the most digestible of the 70's crew and had an hell of a career, even tho i think Palma/Lucas/Coppolla were probably more talented (in their very specific ways).
 
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The Prestige is well-made. Great actors & acting. But I kind of hate the twist. It's like if you find out in Goodfellas that Henry had a time machine, and that's why he was so good at avoiding arrest for so long. Totally nonsensical in an otherwise grounded movie.

What makes the ending of The Prestige so memorable was not the twist but the implications of that twist. That was completely fucked up.
 
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First frame of the film literally tells you to watch closely

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So in the Goodfellas time machine analogy, this would be like Henry having an anachronistic bottle of wine in the first scene. Doesnt make it any less silly.

What makes the ending of The Prestige so memorable was not the twist but the implications of that twist. That was completely fucked up.
And the whole "It was Nolan pulling his own Prestige!"

Look, I get why people like it, and you guys are no less worthy of people for doing so lol it just bugged me with how relatively grounded the rest of the movie was.
 
I fucking hate the dark knight. People wank this film off just because heath died making it. His performance was iconic and a good crazy joker.

But the movie itself was some long ass boring crime movie. As absurd as rises was, it was at least entertaining.

Nolan has way better work in him.
 
What makes the ending of The Prestige so memorable was not the twist but the implications of that twist. That was completely fucked up.
Yup that he was willing to literally kill himself over and over for fame. The copy would always take over and he knew each time. Amazing film. Was super confused with the time skips when I first saw it.
 
Scorsese. Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, The Departed, and Raging Bull are better than anything Nolan has ever done. Even his lesser known stuff like King of Comedy and After Hours are great films.
 
Yup that he was willing to literally kill himself over and over for fame. The copy would always take over and he knew each time. Amazing film. Was super confused with the time skips when I first saw it.
I thought it was that he didn't know if he would be the one to survive or not but was willing to take the risk for the sake of his craft.
 
I fucking hate the dark knight. People wank this film off just because heath died making it. His performance was iconic and a good crazy joker.

But the movie itself was some long ass boring crime movie. As absurd as rises was, it was at least entertaining.

Nolan has way better work in him.
I respect the hell out of your opinion, but man do I disagree with this so much, I mean with every fiber of my being do I disagree. Even without Heath's death, this would be considered the greatest comic book film of all time by a massive stretch, and that's in spite of me hating Bale's silly Bat voice so goddamn much I almost wanna mute it every time he talks. I absolutely love this film, and it being a "crime movie" is a massive part of why it's so good. It has the outlandish, inspirational vibes of a comic book film while still seeming at least somewhat grounded and relatable, and that's an accomplishment when we're talking about a film about a billionaire who dresses up as a bat and punches a guy dressed as a clown. This is a transcendant film.

With respect, I think you're wrong.
 
I'll go with any director who actually likes people to hear what the hell is being spoken in the film they are making.
 
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I thought it was that he didn't know if he would be the one to survive or not but was willing to take the risk for the sake of his craft.
No, it was making a copy elsewhere.
.pretty sure when they are first testing the machine in America it originally was making bad copies until Bowie tinkered with it. He was waiting in America for awhile for the machine to work. I did wonder why he felt it necessary to kill himself each time but I guess that's how far he was willing to go. Remember the test in his theatre, he immediately shoots the clone.
 
No, it was making a copy elsewhere.
.pretty sure when they are first testing the machine in America it originally was making bad copies until Bowie tinkered with it. He was waiting in America for awhile for the machine to work. I did wonder why he felt it necessary to kill himself each time but I guess that's how far he was willing to go. Remember the test in his theatre, he immediately shoots the clone.
The machine makes a copy but he doesn't know whether the original who goes into the machine will be transported to the balcony or will be the one left behind and killed off to hide how it's done. The one that remains then doesn't know which one they are but is willing to continue performing the act.

He talks about it at the end in this part:

 
Nolan is a competent filmmaker elevated somewhat by the good fortune of being surrounded by new wave mediocrity. Thirty to forty years ago, he'd have been an also-ran. He's overrated.
 
I haven't seen everything yet, but in general I don't feel that Nolan has the ability to follow through on his ideas. It gets too heavy handed & obvious every time, and never reaches the lofty goals he seems to be aiming for.

My favorite of his is still Interstellar, which I thought was brilliant as a piece of sci-fi entertainment (pacing, music, the rollout of the mystery at the beginning, etc), but the actual ideas... in the end I don't feel that they land at all. And that's pretty much the pattern for me.

Sacrilege to some but, his Batman films were also very entertaining yet so awfully clunky, heavy handed, and awkward in all their dialogue, to the point that I have trouble re-watching them at all.
 
Scorsese is like a fine high end dinning place, that's a bit overstuffed and sometimes a bit more high on it self than the end result, but still a great high end meal that occasionally will make you fall in love with food and recognize what a master chef is capable of.

Nolan is like fast food thats really damn good. Its not overly fancy, but the masses love it, and you do too, but it never feels like its transcended your taste pallet to new heights. But you still enjoy it greatly and recognize it as the best fast food available right now.
 
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Goodfellas was one of my favorites, he does make great movies but I personally judge filmmaking with how much of an experience I got out of it, and for that I choose Nolan more often compared to Scorsese. I still remember when Interstellar came out, me and my fiancé at the time took the day off to see it early at the TCL Chinese Theater, we arrived and barely anyone was there, had the best seats in the house, it was truly an experience watching it even though its far from one of my favorite Nolan films, and I honestly don't know if I would have gotten the same experience with any of Scorsese's movies I have not watched, but the ones that I have, I would not have gotten the same feeling walking out of the theater. Don't get me wrong ill have watched Goodfellas probably more than ive watched any of Nolans films.
 
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Scorsese is like a fine high end dinning place, that's a bit overstuffed and sometimes a bit more high on it self than the end result, but still a great high end meal that occasionally will make you fall in love with food and recognize what a master chef is capable of.

Nolan is like fast food thats really damn good. Its not overly fancy, but the masses love it, and you do too, but it never feels like its transcended your taste pallet to new heights. But you still enjoy it greatly and recognize it as the best fast food available right now.
Great analogies . 👍
 
Nolan, I'm not a big fan of crime/gangster dramas, mainly because the characters in them are often obnoxious assholes
I agree. I think that most often the protagonists and characters are just insecure and pathetic, so I lose my interest. Especially when it comes to the Italian mafia. But I do like Mann's movies which are more about thiefs or The Town with Affleck, so I'm not totally against movies with criminals. Scorsese has probably variation in his filmography, but I've never felt inclined to watch all of his stuff.
 
I agree. I think that most often the protagonists and characters are just insecure and pathetic, so I lose my interest. Especially when it comes to the Italian mafia. But I do like Mann's movies which are more about thiefs or The Town with Affleck, so I'm not totally against movies with criminals. Scorsese has probably variation in his filmography, but I've never felt inclined to watch all of his stuff.

Yeap, just to be clear, I have no problem with anti-heroes, assholes or even villains being protagonists, Mann And Affleck are indeed great examples, I was thinking how much I loved Collateral for example because Cruise's character was self-aware and likeable enough for a villain. Now take someone like Scarface that even though isn't a Scorsese character is the best example of the characters I fucking hate, throughout the movie I rooted against that obnoxious, stupid fucking punk, it's a combination of macho bravado, asshole risky behavior, borderline delusional self-confidence, lack of self-awareness and general low-life criminal attitude that makes me hate these characters and honestly Scorsese movies are full of them even in movies like The Departed that aren't necessarily about gangsters. It's a matter of preference I guess but I don't see what other people like in them, they and their choices are just annoying to me
 
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