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I'm straight. So I only liked the MGS1.
the game is no longer essential because all its story points are summarized in mgs4. Many people learned your support team from MGS3 were the Patriots from hearing Eva tell you in 4, not by playing PO. BUT, up until PW, PO was considered canon and essential by the team themselves. My argument isn't if it's canon or not, it's that it's not a spin off, and major plot points are carried over to the later games. A game that features a lot of the characters from MGS3 and handled story beats the other games follow cannot be labeled as a spin off. It, unlike ALL the spinoffs, has the SOLID title.I knew this war would come up. So POPS (love calling it that) is not entirely canon, while being not entirely not canon. It has bits and pieces of canon taken from it (like the San Hieronymo incident being a thing; Peace Walker actually confirms that it DID take place). And in Metal Gear Solid 4, they do take some parts of the game and throws it in there.
I don't think the game is ESSENTIAL, but you cannot discard it as it does have some part of the lore in tact.
the game is no longer essential because all its story points are summarized in mgs4. Many people learned your support team from MGS3 were the Patriots from hearing Eva tell you in 4, not by playing PO. BUT, up until PW, PO was considered canon and essential by the team themselves. My argument isn't if it's canon or not, it's that it's not a spin off, and major plot points are carried over to the later games. A game that features a lot of the characters from MGS3 and handled story beats the other games follow cannot be labeled as a spin off. It, unlike ALL the spinoffs, has the SOLID title.
I am not the canon police. What someone wants to add/subtract to their head-canon is their thing entirely. But saying that the character Big Boss only has 2 games whereas Snake has 3 (which is wrong too) and mislabeling PO as a "spin off" because wiki told him (Wiki also had Donald Trump listed as part of MGS1's development team) is wrong.
tl;dr: there are the games Kojima directed and the ones he didn't. What people decide is canon is up to them. But Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops isn't a spinoff.
right. but there is no quote calling it a "spin off". there's one for MGRR. not for PO.Let's put it this way, if Kojima says it's a spinoff. It's a spinoff.
I'm not sure if you'd call it a spinoff though. So I'm not even going to make the arguments. It's really up to the creator of the series / games to decide.
still think MGS2 was Kojima's best work ever, really ahead of it's time
This comes up regularly and I wonder why. MGS2 is a MGS1 clone with a lack of interesting characters and a really fucked up over the top story. Kojima stories are always kind of cringy, but this one takes the cake.
Personally speaking, it's the worst of em all. Well, apart from MG5 obviously
I vote for Solid because of MGS1 beeing a revolutionary masterpiece and MGS 4 beeing a underrated grand finale.
MG3 is a masterpiece hands down. But Peacewalker and Mgs5 drags it down for me.
right. but there is no quote calling it a "spin off". there's one for MGRR. not for PO.
what he has said was it was a "side story", whereas he's said ac!d and Revengeance are "spin offs"I agree. I don't think I ever heard of Kojima saying it was or wasn't.
what he has said was it was a "side story", whereas he's said ac!d and Revengeance are "spin offs"