I had just announced DARQ release date on Steam - pulling the game off Steam a few days after Steam release date announcement would forever ruin the credibility of my studio
DARQ was listed on Steam since late 2018. A lot of Steam users added DARQ to their wishlist and patiently waited for its release date for almost a year.
I wish the Epic Store would allow indie games to be sold there non-exclusively, as they do with larger, still unreleased games (Cyberpunk 2077), so players can enjoy what they want: a choice.
Console gamers have to be watching this Epic store thing playout with a smirk.
AND OF COURSE
all it requires of you is 5 minute register and login and second to use other shortcut on desktop.
Speaking for me (but I know I'm not alone) I DO NOT want a pointless piece of software installed on my PC to run my games. I want to have my games and that's it. That's why, while I use GOG, I don't even use Galaxy.This argument keeps repeating and annoys me to no end. Besides selling my personal details to yet another company and fragmenting my game library (which I understand not many people are concerned about), I'm giving up on:
- Preloading
- TV mode (big picture)
- Controller-friendly UI
- Ability to share the game library with family members via family sharing
- Integrated streaming to other PC, and phones, even online, including phone controls
- Library-wide Linux support, and Linux launcher.
- Integrated music library
- Extensive controller support, full customization even for keyboard-only games.
- Ability to share and publish custom controller configurations
- Achievements
- Regional pricing (for better or worse)
- User friendly mod support via Steam Workshop
- Remote game download (buy it at work, start playing as soon as you get home)
- Game backups
- Friends list, ability to join friends straight from chat
- Integrated ability to stream the game and watch friends play
And that's just from the top of my head, I'm sure other people care for different features. Buying a game on EGS has many tangible downsides with basically no pros, for me as a consumer.
I appreciate that. Being able to go launcher-less is why I like buying from gog. And I've backed up my gog collection on external 1TB drive, so I don't worry about being online, data caps or games being pulled from the store.Speaking for me (but I know I'm not alone) I DO NOT want a pointless piece of software installed on my PC to run my games. I want to have my games and that's it. That's why, while I use GOG, I don't even use Galaxy.
This argument keeps repeating and annoys me to no end. Besides selling my personal details to yet another company and fragmenting my game library (which I understand not many people are concerned about), I'm giving up on:
- Preloading
- TV mode (big picture)
- Controller-friendly UI
- Ability to share the game library with family members via family sharing
- Integrated streaming to other PC, and phones, even online, including phone controls
- Library-wide Linux support, and Linux launcher.
- Integrated music library
- Extensive controller support, full customization even for keyboard-only games.
- Ability to share and publish custom controller configurations
- Achievements
- Regional pricing (for better or worse)
- User friendly mod support via Steam Workshop
- Remote game download (buy it at work, start playing as soon as you get home)
- Game backups
- Friends list, ability to join friends straight from chat
- Integrated ability to stream the game and watch friends play
And that's just from the top of my head, I'm sure other people care for different features. Buying a game on EGS has many tangible downsides with basically no pros, for me as a consumer.
I appreciate that. Being able to go launcher-less is why I like buying from gog. And I've backed up my gog collection on external 1TB drive, so I don't worry about being online, data caps or games being pulled from the store.
But it's hard to argue that features like family sharing are pointless.
Sure but have you ever used game from outside of steam ? Because i never hear those arguments used then. It is only in response to EGS that those arguments are used.
Secondly no game should ever be tied to fucking store you buy. It is like buying honda and requiring to show up to honda dealer to fire up game everytime you want to go to work.
The more stores there are the less and less store community will be important, the more devs will ignore store APIs so that their games can be used by all people and the less player communities division will be there.
Like i said i wish there would be 10 more EPIc like stores with big money to completely blow up PC digital market up.
Because then when we will go to buy game we will be buying game not tying yourself to honda dealer hoping that your dealer is ever merciful and kind.
But you just said that those features are important to you. So which is it ? You can't have both at the same time.
Yes, those are important features. I share games within the family, stream to my phone on a weekly basis, use Linux extensively. Gog also supports linux, sharing within family is easy, so I decide on a game by game basis whether I value drm-free more than the other Steam conveniences (like the controller support). I tend to go to gog for offiline or older games.
Is it that hard to understand that I value what I pay for?
Yes it is hard to understand when you put importance of features to later discard it.
Oh look, another EGS thread devolving into rabbling. I wonder why
Yeah this was definitely a calculated move. It was smart of him to play this like he's a really moral guy, but this is obviously just a PR move.
Secondly no game should ever be tied to fucking store you buy. It is like buying honda and requiring to show up to honda dealer to fire up game everytime you want to go to work.
In terms of morality, EGS is no worse (possibly even better) than Steam. Valve is a shady ass company.
Not accurate, there are a lot of upcoming indie games set to be released both on Steam and Epic Store.
Also: fuck Schreier.
The dev just wanted to be transparent in an industry of shady practices.
Unless he makes enough money to get a transplant. They're not that expensive, either.Dude is an industry darling and corporate shill. Neither of which will help his ever receding hairline that is currently going the way of the Dodo bird.
THEY CAN'T SEE US CUZ THEY AIN'T US.
The sad part is that he got pulled into it even without saying anything. Until after the tweets which he was mentioned, that he had to clarify his position cause everyone will go full conspiracy theory on him.....but it looks like Jason is already smearing the guy.I initially saw this as some sorta attempt to virtue signal but then I read everything... now I feel compelled to buy the game just to support the guy despite not being interested in the game lol. Reading that little bit about Ooblets(from his point of view) really put things in perspective.
I mean every dev that has gone EGS has posted his reasons for it, most often with a ton of bs, and that was fine. Why's this so called pro-developer Jason guy adding to the pile on against an indie for deviating from Epic PR speak? Same way he made off topic and uncalled for snide remarks about Valve's company-wide paid vacation while promoting Epic knowing full well their crunch deal? Is he gonna call the devs of Oddworld who just posted their reasons for going to EGS martyr wannabes? What an outrageously one sided shitshow this whole thing has been from the media and so called journalists (the rest entities most often being companies naturally go for the risk free money, unless the media has been moneyhatted in this or that way like PC Gamer why go so all-in with the same bs and handwaving rather than show some impartiality and critical thinking?). Meh.Also: fuck Schreier.
The dev just wanted to be transparent in an industry of shady practices.
*raises hand*
How about Gaben actually opens up his fucking wallet and compete ffs? This strategy is fucking stupid on Valves part.
And yet, you keep white knighting Epic even though their games are tied to a store.
Which is why champion Epic and hope there will be next 20 stores that will completely fuck over steam monopoly.
Steam didn't introduce features like steamworks, workshop etc. to "help people". They did it to lock people in their garden and make it almost impossible to leave it for some developers and get your money.
Good example of that is Starbound where Starbound doesn't even want to fucking notice mods if it is not connected to Steam and if you by chance use unpacked mods they load fucking forever and crash most of the time.
Sorry, but this irks me. YES, I put all my Uplay-Games into steam, I bought GTAV physical and put it into steam for two major fucking reasons:Sure but have you ever used game from outside of steam ? Because i never hear those arguments used then. It is only in response to EGS that those arguments are used.