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With Nintendo suing Yuzu does this prevent a Switch 2 emulator being made
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
No, but I doubt Switch 2 will be so incredibly easy to hack and emulate. You could hack the OG switch like 1 year after release with a paperclip.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Did Sony suing Bleem! prevent PCSX2 from happening?
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Same was said after the DS, 3DS, Wii, Wii U, etc.. etc.. were all so easy to hack.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Who knows, maybe the architecture of Switch 2 is going to be similar enough that it's why they're suing Yuzu...
Guilty_AI
Member
It does lend credit to the possibility it'll be backwards compatible, Nintendo certainly wouldn't want players to have an alternative way to play switch games with higher res and frame-rate.
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Puscifer
Member
Pretty much, at this point nvidias arm architecture is so engrained and there's already rumors of it being BC. I honestly wonder if they launched a switch 2 exclusive game on it and it worked, this is clearly them trying to get ahead of the pack at this point.
Holammer
Member
I'm thinking the Next-gen Nintendo device is a pimped out Switch using the same carts. With the "pro" offering better framerate/resolution and other goodies, like Microsoft does with the Series S & X. Lots of perks with the approach, except for the fly in the ointment that is emulators.
Someone realized the problem and the quick fix is to intimidate emu devs. I expect them to try Lawfare and demand injunctions to delay or stop development, like Sony did with VGS.
Someone realized the problem and the quick fix is to intimidate emu devs. I expect them to try Lawfare and demand injunctions to delay or stop development, like Sony did with VGS.
ReyBrujo
Member
The Switch was easy to emulate because the Tegra was well documented. If the Switch 2 uses a custom chip it would be harder to emulate but that doesn't mean it won't be possible. I am pretty sure the Yuzu guys will try to milk their Patreon to the maximum to get a Switch 2 done even with Nintendo suing them.
bender
What time is it?
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I believe the Switch 2 emulator is already available on the internet. Since many games will probably be cross-gen, I think there won't be a need for a new emulator. Just like playing BotW with Wii U emulators(or playing Wii U games on Switch). That's why Nintendo is taking action on it.
BloodborneHat3r
Neo Member
otherwise why wait to sue until the end of the Switch's lifecycle. The damage is done to Switch sales and some devs in Yuzu highly likely doesn't have the money to compensate the lost revenue of potential millions of sales.Also if the architecture of Switch 2 have similarities to Switch then the best people to write a Switch 2 emulator would be the Yuzu/Ryujinx devs.
Sleepwalker
Member
This is also what I'm thinking. It's going to be an iterative console with a meaningful power upgrade but running the same architecture. I don't doubt emulators will be up and running within the first year or 2 if thats the case.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
No and there is also Ryujinx.
yurinka
Member
To pirate instead of supporting the devs who make the games?
Bleem was a commercial emulator. Prevented future commecial emulators, yes.
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WOW I haven't heard that name in forever!
Reallink
Member
By all accounts it's going to be an 8nm Ampere part, so literally over 5 year old technology. Even more outdated than Switch 1 was upon release.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
It's different now. Switch is the first Nintendo console that requires a hard mod in order to gain access to homebrew. Everything else could be broken with an SD card and a file system browser
Starting with the mariko models (which are the majority of Switches sold) they patched out the paperclip/RCM exploit. if this security is carried over to switch 2 & improved upon then it'd be a real tough cookie to break. And it's not been broken in 6~ years.
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CobraAB
Member
I did but a GaneBiy in 1990.
Got it to play while I was in Saudi Arabia during Operation Desert Storm.
But that is it.
ReBurn
Gold Member
It definitely killed Bleem! I think I still have my Bleemcast for Tekken 3 disc. That was the way to play.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
You can kill the company but not the idea though, LOL
My idea is, the new nintendo system shares a lot of architecture and hardware with the older one so to prevent day 1 Emulation support they're trying their damndest to steamroll the emulation scene.
Well, that and great security. N64 was emulated on PCs that were running Half-Life.
Barakov
Gold Member
No. All these people have to do is not try to make off of it. Nintendo is probably going after Yuzu because of their patreon.
bigdad2007
Member
My guess is Nintendo did some research and realized Switch 2 is close enough to Switch one that Yuzu could be easily modified to play both. Much like Dolphin plays Wii U and GameCube since the Wii U architecture supported both.
This is why Yuzu now of all times got the lawsuit rather than years ago.
This is why Yuzu now of all times got the lawsuit rather than years ago.
IAmRei
Member
But why? Why dont buy switch "2" instead of emulate it? Switch 2 still not yet officially announced, and yet you make a thread about future emulator.... Geez...
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
It will get hacked, and I'd bet it won't even take that long. Maybe 3-4 years tops.
Shakka43
Member
This is what I think is going on too. Nintendo might be afraid of another Dolphin (GC/WII) situation.
Dr.D00p
Gold Member
They're suing because in Japan IP copyright laws are far more of a big deal than in the West, in terms of how seriously its taken. The criminal penalties for breaking them are also a lot harsher. Prison is almost always the end result whereas in the West, financial penalties are usually the limit.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Should probably wait for Switch 2 to even get announced before this type of speculation on it lol
Lucifers Beard
Member
No, someone else will create it I imagine.
daninthemix
Member
I think there's a real chance. If I were you, I'd spend the next 2 years paralyzed with fear about that eventuality.
StueyDuck
Member
Although yes... emulation isn't piracy...
Nothing stops a pirate.
Drm never does and neither will Nintendo clamping down on emulation.
Again emulation isn't piracy, but it is a tool they use so if they need an emulator they'll make sure they'll have one.
The average enthusiast however may be discouraged.
bigdad2007
Member
Yuzu has been able to play switch games for years. I can remember people making a big deal about how Links Awakening remake on the Switch ran better on PC.
Something recent has triggered them to actually do something about it l.
Stevonidas
Member
There's no virtue in signaling your poverty, my dude.
Sentenza
Member
It depends on few factors, like how well-documented it is as a chipset and how similar it is to the previous one.
If it's just a beefed up Switch 1 in an attempt to maintain maximum backward compatibility, then emulating it would be almost trivial since most of the work in reverse-engineering its architecture would be already done.
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Sleepwalker
Member
Gamecube needed a hard mod as well. Still does actually, just did one on my childhood gamecube a couple days ago.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I stand corrected. I usually forget GameCube because Wii/Wii U can play that and more systems.
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