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Woman diverts flight after US plane birth, may pay fines, alleged maternity tourist
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JustAnotherMike
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They invoked sky law and carried out a 21-18 on that baby.
If your brother is a US citizen the baby can claim citizenship through him.
timetokill
Banned
There is definitely an issue with maternity tourism like this.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Pretty damn fucked up they sent her back without her baby.
Jesus, lol
Well, we'd start the project, but it'd get canceled two years later after things just got silly.
We arent.
I think he means that his brother's wife is gonna try to give birth in US airspace to get the baby citizenship.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe the mother doesn't want the child Togo through military service?
Tallshortman
Member
There are non-military services available to serve instead of direct military service. Also, they are phasing out conscription and turning their military into a professional force.
Besides that Taiwan hasn't been in a serious military conflict since the 60s and China won't attack short of a declaration of independence. That has never been a serious reason for tourist babies.
We can't let a foreigner dictate what happens to an American citizen. Fear not, it has been swaddled in USA flag and is be nurtured by an eagle as we speak.
Alex Stroud
Banned
They're keeping the baby as collateral while she runs home to get her checkbook.
nocturnalis
Member
She wanted an American child, so she has to follow the rules of America.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Regardless of whether she had ulterior motives for the flight, taking the baby away from her has to be some sort of human rights violation.
I'm going to assume it is for the safety of the newborn. I was under the impression it unless they have medical permission, babies under 14 days are not allowed to fly.
GhostWriter24
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Please tell me you're joking. The baby needs to receive adequate medical care first, and you think they're just going to give him/her back to a woman who actually has zero means to do so? That would be jeopardizing the life of the child...think about what you're saying.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Pregnant mothers in the late stage aren't allowed on planes, right? An airport is kind of an unsafe environment for both the mother and unborn child...
After 14 days is the US gov. going to give it back to her? Does the newborn keep its citizenship? Terrible move separating them...
She is a maternity tourist not a refugee. She has plenty of means. The issue comes down to the fact the child is considered a citizen
Jeevesmeister
Banned
Well now we know what happened to Baby Hitler.
Exactly, she is the one that cause the problem for her and her child when she lied to her government and the US. Medically she should not have been on the plane in the first place.
I'm assuming the US is holding the child until it is safe to travel. And that she was recalled by her Taiwan to answer for what she did.
timetokill
Banned
But I didn't think Taiwan was all that bad, to be honest. I don't know much about Taiwan so maybe it is, but I didn't get the feeling it was like our GAFfer living in Venezuela.
Anyway, by this metric it seems like the obvious move would be for the US should rescind birthright citizenship so that it's not "in her best interests" to do things like this. It's dangerous to take a flight when you're that pregnant, so it's not even necessarily in "the best interests" of the baby.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Something definitely needs to be done to combat maternity tourism.
Slap this lady with a hefty fine. She deliberately lied and cost a plane full of people time and money. I am of the opinion she should also be liable for damages if individual passengers would like to take her to court.
The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.
Slap this lady with a hefty fine. She deliberately lied and cost a plane full of people time and money. I am of the opinion she should also be liable for damages if individual passengers would like to take her to court.
The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.
100% Agree with you.
spazchicken
Member
So you're saying what she did was not extremely selfish, inconsiderate, stupid, dangerous and the other passengers should be grateful to her? Screw them, their schedules, family, time, money and their jobs right?
You Are Viewtiful
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So you're saying what she did was not extremely selfish, inconsiderate, stupid, dangerous and the other passengers should be grateful to her? Screw them, their schedules, family, time, money and their jobs right?
Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.
spazchicken
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Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.
Roll eyes gif at a quote saying "she effected the travel of the other passengers".
Does that not say "who cares about the passengers"?
If I'm wrong I apologize but...I can't see how that's saying the opposite.
Seems the common sense thing would be to do what Italy does. The Airline is an extension of the country it is flagged for just like an Embassy may be in another country but its part of the country the embassy belongs too
No, I think he was rolling at the eyes that passengers were affected by this.
Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.
Yes you are right. If she was a legit birth tourist she paid a service much more than that already (housing, pre and post natal care, visa help, etc.)
You Are Viewtiful
Member
Oh, I thought it was roll eyes at the lady wasting everyone's time.
Septimus Prime
Member
So, here's a question: why? Aside from this particular case, how is this hurting anyone?
AcademicSaucer
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Guys, guys, why is the US taking the baby ?
I was thinking this. Taiwan is a fully developed country. Why would she do this?
No, it's not. How the fuck would it be a security threat?
spazchicken
Member
Because the US accepts everything else that they make, so why not.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Having US citizenship makes being in the espionage business against the US a hell of a lot easier.
CharlieDigital
Banned
Pack it up. I've heard it all.....
The thing is that it really doesn't suck that much in Taiwan.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
So you are saying it is not easier for somebody to commit espionage against the USA if they are in the US on a work visa versus if they are a citizen and granted a security clearance?
think carefully about it for a second.
To the folks wondering why we kept the baby here; pretty sure putting a newborn on a flight isn't the safest idea. The child will be reunited with the mother as soon as it is safe to do so.
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