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mansoor1980
Gold Member
X/S ~ 4.15 m
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Man those Xbox numbers are really bad.
PS5 is outselling it 3.5:1?
Sarah Bond has work cut out for her
PS5 is outselling it 3.5:1?
Sarah Bond has work cut out for her
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MadchesterManc
Member
Expected more than 79+ for combined One & Series sales, the One really only do 50-60 million? (I don't really follow sales malarkey). Wouldn't surprise me if PS5 passes Xbox combined sales in the next couple of years with how its going.
SkylineRKR
Member
Its crazy but PS5 will probably sell Series lifetime numbers within just this year.
X1 at about 58 million should've been sort of correct.
X1 at about 58 million should've been sort of correct.
Shakka43
Member
Killjoy-NL
Member
Xbox Series will be lucky to reach ~40M lifetime sales.
Last legs.
Last legs.
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BbMajor7th
Gold Member
"We won't be beaten on price or power..."
Just absolutely brickbatted on sales.
Just absolutely brickbatted on sales.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
lol remember when people were still throwing out that ancient, 8 year old 2:1 ratio and thinking it still applied? Xbox is basically irrelevant at this point.
Physiognomonics
Member
People can spin how they want but the whole Xbox Series strategy (hardware, software) was a colossal failure. Compared to this XB1 was a resounding success.
thismeinteil
Member
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Xbox sales down by 24% this year? That's absolutely brutal.... Consoles usually sell best after being three years on the market when there's been one or more price cuts and the software library has expanded significantly. It's a pretty bad sign when sales are slowing down significantly, that should happen only at the end of its lifetime.
It Was Written
Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?
There was more hype around Xbox Scorpio than there is around Scarlett , Xbox One X started off with a nice push from Microsoft but it seems like they quickly gave up on it you can get a Xbox One X for $402 right now but no one seems to care that it's $97 off . You can get the Xbox One S A.D for...
I love Neogaf.Shipments
(January-September) 2023
PS5 14.5 m
NSW 9.91 m
X/S ~ 4.15 m
LTD
NSW 132.46 m
PS5 more than 46.6 m
X/S ~ 22.7 m
The OP uses Welfare as a reference or source of the estimated data for XS and then invents LTD sales estimates for XS even though in its same source (Welfare) indicates 25-26 million shipments
What should we take?
PS. MS itself estimates that it will sell similar to XBO in the leaked docs. I don't understand how the XS sales situation is still a surprise to anyone....
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Robb
Gold Member
The L
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nowhat
Member
I especially loved how they combined Series + One sales as a single metric.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
how many loading screens where experienced?...
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah but what about PS4 recovery after PS3 & Switch recovery after WiiU?
Right now Nintendo is on fire assuring that people will want to pick up the next Nintendo console .
PlayStation 5 is so hot that a PS5 Pro might even set the world on fire.
Xbox isn't making people hungry for the next Xbox & this is what they did at the end of last generation they let the buzz of Xbox One X die down so fast that only fan boys thought that they was going to really compete with PS5 this generation.
It wasn't because of Xbox One it was Xbox themselves.
Spitfire098
Member
Excitement is in the air with the recent Bethesda and Activision purchase. People really running out to buy xboxes
Horseganador
Member
More than 3:1 in favor of PS5, the Xbox hardware debacle is real.
Sanepar
Member
Wellfare is creating number from his ass trying to inflate Xbox numbers.Shipments
(January-September) 2023
PS5 14.5 m
NSW 9.91 m
X/S ~ 4.15 m
LTD
NSW 132.46 m
PS5 more than 46.6 m
X/S ~ 22.7 m
They sold less in 2022 and even less in 2023. There is no chance they are around 26 million. At best 23.
Crayon
Member
All good points. In the PS3 to PS4 situation, I would say that PS3 owners were satisfied in the end. It was really the first year after it's released that looked dire, they had a strong finish with the software, 80 million sold. There was of course the following announcements of systems that played a big factor not to do with the experience of the previous system.
As for the Wii u, this is admittedly a stretch on my part, but if I had to guess it would be that so few people bought it that not enough were burned.
And in the end, as far as Microsoft just sucking at this, that does go for the one generation and lots of people that felt burned.
Luminoth-4545
Member
While i don't think PS5 can hit 25 million for the fiscal year it definitely has a reasonable chance to hit 25 million for the calendar year, a 10.5 million Oct to Dec quarter will get it there. If we compare January to September 2022 to 2023 then you would expect PS5 to be up and the ageing Switch to be down but not Xbox to be down like it is.
Jan to Sep 2022 and 2023
PS5 : 7.70m and 14.50m - up 6.80m
NSW : 10.79m and 9.91m - down 0.88m
XBS : 5.40m and 4.20m - down 1.20m
Jan to Sep 2022 and 2023
PS5 : 7.70m and 14.50m - up 6.80m
NSW : 10.79m and 9.91m - down 0.88m
XBS : 5.40m and 4.20m - down 1.20m
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
X/S ~ 4.15 m
bitbydeath
Member
Those numbers aren’t really that surprising, even a lot of Xbox fans here say they moved to PC.
MacReady13
Member
And now you know why Microsoft continues to focus on a subscription service over console/hardware sales
FalconPunch
Member
I mean, I’m not surprised seeing as Xbox didn’t bother to release a next gen console. I’ll never forget launch day when I received my series x. I unboxed that sucker and I thought, wow this a great unboxing experience. Then I booted the console and it was the most underwhelming experience ever to say the least.
Once Spencer started sharing his plan that all Xbox games would come to pc, I was out. No point in buying a console if it doesn’t get exclusives. Just moved to playing the games on pc.
Once Spencer started sharing his plan that all Xbox games would come to pc, I was out. No point in buying a console if it doesn’t get exclusives. Just moved to playing the games on pc.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
the power of games. who wudda thought.Switch selling like crazy for outdated hw
Mr.Phoenix
Member
So you are one of those holding onto that hope that Xbox is doing well?I love Neogaf.
The OP uses Welfare as a reference or source of the estimated data for XS and then invents LTD sales estimates for XS even though in its same source (Welfare) indicates 25-26 million shipments
What should we take?
PS. MS itself estimates that it will sell similar to XBO in the leaked docs. I don't understand how the XS sales situation is still a surprise to anyone....
Here's a hint, a very simple way of looking at this stuff, if it were doing anywhere near as well as the XB1 (not even mentioning 360), sales figures wouldn't be such a guarded secret.
this is so obvious that it shouldn't have to be said, but there is only ONE reason a platform holder will not talk about sales.
Woopah
Member
Xbox being down more in its third year than Switch in its seventh year is crazy.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
yeah, would be nice to see calendar year totals for the PS4.