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DOOM Review Thread - The Fury Road of Shooters
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Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
CantTrickMe
Neo Member
First of all, I dont owe you, nor anyone for that matter, an explanation as to why I dont like something. Second, regardless of what I say, you and horde of other "white knights" will defend the games honor until death do you part. I was genuinely wondering if I was the only only who thought the game was bad.
To entertain you, here are a few things I thought were bad. Campaign with a small amount of viable story or lore. Instead of feeling like I was in hell or hell was on Earth, I felt like I was on Mars. To add to my list of dislikes, I found myself going through repetitive motions when fighting enemies: Shoot until a blue outline shows up then execute(which became sorely repetitive quickly), I found pvp to be a very bad, wannabe CoD/Halo and there are many more I could get into but for sake of time I wont.
If you, or anyone else likes the game, then good for you. I dont like the game. To reiterate, I am genuinely wondering if I was the only one who disliked it.
Our review is here: http://nextgengamingblog.com/blog/doom-review/
9/10, our guy loved the single player, and we were left scratching our heads as to the lack of early code for everyone, as this is brilliant!
9/10, our guy loved the single player, and we were left scratching our heads as to the lack of early code for everyone, as this is brilliant!
GurgleBot20
Member
Well it looks like id/Bethesda made the right choice, SP is brilliant but the MP seems to drag the score down. Word of mouth is basically selling the game right now before the reviews hit.
But the reviews are hitting and they're almost universally positive...
There is a 7.1 from ign and a 50 from some other site, I mean it's not too bad but word of mouth probably got this game a decent chunk of sales
AndyMoogle
Member
Buying games directly from Steam is rarely the best choice these days. It will almost always be cheaper elsewhere.
Shadow Warrior and Bullet Storm
As opposed to shooting until they drop? Isn't that giving you more choice than standard FPS?
Shadow Warrior and Bullet Storm
You know your games, dicktits.
It's pretty inconsequential but a big YouTuber named Markiplier is doing a full playthrough of the game. He's a huge Doom fan and he's enjoying the new one so far. Might convince a few of his 12+ million subscribers to get the game.
NX Gamer just put up their tech analysis. Haven't read it but the subtitle for it is "A demonic display of technical mastery".
Dakhanavar
Neo Member
Oh, good. I read that and was honestly confused for a second, lol. I had one of those, "But wait, isn't that..." moments.
blame space
Banned
it's a throwback to an old video game magazine from when the dual stick control scheme was just starting to be used.
My use is correct; holistic, viewing each part only as it relates to the whole, not in isolation. Doom's multiplayer is harmless, at worst without merit but not detracting from the core of the game. There's no purpose in holding it against the final score, unless one feels compelled to equally weight all aspects of a game - which is mechanical, arbitrary, and foolish.
QuantumSquid
Member
Thinking about buying the season pass to support the game more. I don't want bullshit reviews leading to poor income for this game
Your season pass money won't make a difference. Don't buy it, please. It's all multiplayer stuff anyway, and you and I both know the multiplayer isn't going to last long enough for you to see the full value of the content the season pass promises.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I love the new Doom but come on
CantTrickMe
Neo Member
No, I felt forced into performing an execution and there wasn't enough different animations to satisfy.
The perfect Dark
Banned
I don't care about review scores but those scores affect sales.
Gotta have that validation from the perceived cultural arbiters.
Doctor Ninja
Sphincter Speaker
The game is damn good. I'm having a blast playing this right now.
Why Bethesda had no confidence in it whatsoever ?
Why Bethesda had no confidence in it whatsoever ?
I don't want to see this game get anything less than a 10. That being said, since multiplayer is there, someone might buy the game for the multiplayer. In that sense, I think it's fair to bake an assessment of the multiplayer into the game's overall score.
Ideally, though, score-based reviews would feature two scores: One for single-player, one for multiplayer, since often gamers are interested in one or the other.
I do share your concern that penalizing a great single-player game for a bonus multiplayer mode is poor incentive for devs to include such extras.
Ixion
Member
Keep in mind that the original Doom received similar complaints from some of the critics. For example, EDGE magazine gave the original Doom a 7/10, saying it was just "kill, kill, kill".
robertlebrone
Member
I love everything about this game. Can't wait to play more this evening. The game is just pure FUN down to its simplest form.
ISee
Member
Thinking about buying the season pass to support the game more. I don't want bullshit reviews leading to poor income for this game
I'd buy a singleplayer DLC (or season pass) without hesitation. But the multiplayer season pass? no, thank you.
from the article said:
I laughed.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/05/16/doom-review-pc/
I'm sure this has already been posted.
"The best shooter of 2016, or I'll eat a Cacodemon's hat"
I'm sure this has already been posted.
"The best shooter of 2016, or I'll eat a Cacodemon's hat"
I'm 100% misunderstanding what you're getting at. If you want to examine something as it relates to the whole, examining the component that potentially taints the whole is just as important.
Doom's multiplayer is, subjectively, harmless. Some people may find it absolutely atrocious and that's well within their right. If it colors their perception of the whole product because the multiplayer is a part of the entire package they're well within their right to rate the entire product.
You really shouldn't call something arbitrary and foolish in such an authoritative manner when someone's enjoyment of an aspect of the game can color their enjoyment of the overall product. It's entirely subjective (not that it makes it not worth discussing) but telling someone they're "wrong" for saying the game would've been better with a stronger MP mode/is made a lesser product due to it's weak MP is ridiculous.
Again, I point at Might No. 9 as an example of how removing certain features can be a good thing. The multiplayer aspect of the game may be good... but is it going to be so good that it makes up for the ruined good-will Inafune generated? I'm not entirely certain; But I do think many fans would be happier without a multiplayer component as it led to a massive delay several times.
There might be a difference between having confidence in your game, and having confidence in critics to understand what they did here -- I mean, letting players make their own decisions here, and word of mouth spreading, has actually created more excitement surrounding Doom than I think a few 7/8/9s would. People are comparing this games combat to FEAR, some think it's the most fun they've had with an FPS for a decade... I don't think a number motivates people in the same way just hearing impressions from other players have. It's been a lot of fun so far without the number fights.
robertlebrone
Member
Eh, to each their own. I love the MP. There is nothing else like it on the market right now.
Yeah, to each to their own. It comes across to me as the exact opposite. It feels like a mish-mash that doesn't excel at any one particular element. Except maybe skin customization, but even then it's not as if you can make your own models like in the old days. No one's gonna be rocking Homer Simpson with a chainsaw.
LevelCapGaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cMR_CTmEpM
Loved the game. Game it some offhand numbers at the end on a whim. SP: 9/10 ---- MP 5/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cMR_CTmEpM
Loved the game. Game it some offhand numbers at the end on a whim. SP: 9/10 ---- MP 5/10
IcyRhythms
Member
Are there any factual numbers or evidence to prove this, though? People say this a lot, with nothing to back it up. A good game will sell on word of mouth alone. Your average gaming consumers make up the majority and are casuals. They don't even go online and look at review scores/things like Metacritic. They just buy what looks interesting, or what their friends and family are talking about.
Dying Light has a score that a lot of us nerds on the internet would second guess at first glance because it's not 90+. We're in the minority, and the game still sold over 5M copies.(and I think that's just for physical)
Quick edit:
I do think you could be correct. Review scores may affect sales, but the majority of gamers don't even care about review scores and if sales were affected, it wouldn't be by much.
PetriP-TNT
Member
IcyRhythms
Member
Same company, but two different games that deserve to be reviewed two different ways, and both games were reviewed by two different people.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
The vast majority of good games don't sell much, word of mouth or otherwise.
There is no point getting into it. An opinion is always valid, you don't have to agree with it.
IcyRhythms
Member
That's because the marketing for a lot of those titles was piss poor or next to none at all. That being said, good game or bad game is all subjective. Hard to really say one way or the other if the vast majority don't sell.
Herr Starr
Member
It's not their job to agree with you. Get over it.
Ixion
Member
I predicted this game would get an average in the low-80s. This just isn't the type of game that receives universal acclaim. If you're not an open-world game, a cinematic story-based game, or some type of charming/artsy indie game, you won't get universal acclaim.
I predicted low-80s because while this doesn't fit the above criteria, I knew it would be top-notch at what it's trying to achieve. And low-80s is the ceiling.
I predicted low-80s because while this doesn't fit the above criteria, I knew it would be top-notch at what it's trying to achieve. And low-80s is the ceiling.