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Woman records boyfriend after getting shot by the Police on Facebook

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flamingotripod

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The girlfriend literally got the whole thing on tape, if nothing changes after this im going to lose faith in humanity. This must be the most disturbing video I have ever seen.
 
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Krejlooc

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Syriel said:
Where does your sister live, because that just doesn't happen in general. It certainly wasn't common when I was growing up and I've lived in plenty of what you would call "white neighborhoods" over the years.
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Right next to NASA. This is definitely common.
 
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Bad Trip

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flamingotripod said:
The girlfriend literally got the whole thing on tape, if nothing changes after this im going to lose faith in humanity. This must be the most disturbing video I have ever seen.
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Prepare to lose faith. . We already saw how Harners case played out .

dc89 said:
To protect and serve.

Who are they protecting?
Who are they serving?
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The rich, white, elite of their communities . Likes it's always been here
 
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studyguy

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GhaleonEB said:
I had this thought when we watched Eric Garner get choked to death while crying, "I can't breathe!" No charges. And here we are. Again.
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The only upside at the moment is we're few weeks away from party conventions so at the very least one could pin a small hope on it leading to a broader focus on policing issues then.

Likely nothing will change but one can hope I guess.
 
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timetokill

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flamingotripod said:
The girlfriend literally got the whole thing on tape, if nothing changes after this im going to lose faith in humanity. This must be the most disturbing video I have ever seen.
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Nope. She didn't get the most critical part -- the confrontation itself.

What will happen is the cop will say he feared for his life, the suspect "made a sudden movement," he had a gun, etc. And that will be that.

After Eric Garner got choked to death on camera, and the only person who got any jail time was the guy that took the video, you should have no illusions that this will turn out any differently with less evidence.
 
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Syriel

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Krejlooc said:
Right next to NASA. This is definitely common.
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The bolded probably has a lot more to do with the abnormally high police presence in her area than anything else.

Go to a typical suburb anywhere in middle America and you're not going to see what you're describing in your posts. Local police aren't going to have any idea who actually lives at what house.
 
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jordan0386

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We don't give a fuck about good cops, just like y'all don't give a fuck about good black people.

White Supremacy and its tentacles must fall!!
 
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BudokaiMR2

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GoldenEye 007 said:
Not sure if you watched the video, but the original stop and shooting happened when it was still daylight. Like clear daylight where headlights and thus tail lights would not be needed yet.
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I did, but the fact that it is daylight doesn't actually matter. I have been pulled over in broad daylight for the same thing. I am pretty sure it is still an infraction and they will assume you aren't going to fix it in the next few hours before the sun goes down.

edit: just to be perfectly clear, I am not attempting to justify or downplay anything. I am just pretty sure that the lights in that pic are the brake lights, not the tail lights.
 
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timetokill

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studyguy said:
The only upside at the moment is we're few weeks away from party conventions so at the very least one could pin a small hope on it leading to a broader focus on policing issues then.

Likely nothing will change but one can hope I guess.
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Ahaha, Hillary isn't gonna say shit. She's in full "don't rock the boat" mode. She has the black vote locked down without even addressing this issue, so she won't.

Meanwhile you know Trump isn't going to say anything.
 
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RedRum

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I don't understand why cops are so fucking scared that they constantly put their life ahead of those that they are supposed to serve. If you are too SCARED of the job then you shouldn't be on the job. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be weary or not defend yourself, but if you ask a guy to do something and he does it and you get so spooked that you have to shoot him four fucking times, then being a cop is not for you. Cops are now climbing the ladder above terrorist in this country.

This shooting reminds me of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE
 
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CassidyIzABeast

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Dame Lillard of the Portland Trailblazers threw a but what about black on black crime out there. When is that one going to stop coming out of black people's mouths when somebody gets killed by a cop?

A lot of people being pissed that paid police officers are killing the people they're supposed to protect because they either fear them or hate them =/= black people being oblivious to poor blacks killing each other.
 
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Krejlooc

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Syriel said:
The bolded probably has a lot more to do with the abnormally high police presence in her area than anything else.

Go to a typical suburb anywhere in middle America and you're not going to see what you're describing in your posts. Local police aren't going to have any idea who actually lives at what house.
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Nasau bay IS a typical whitebread suburb. This shit also happens in other white areas, like the Heights.

Police do not patrol black neighborhoods like you are claiming. This is a historic problem. Just examine the police response time in San Fransisco vs Oakland - average of 3 minutes vs 45 minutes.

You say you've lived in plenty of white neighborhoods... have you ever lived in the projects? Because I have. Hell, the first episode of OJ: Made in America is literally all about this.
 
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SapientWolf

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How did this guy ever get a badge? It sounds like he lost his shit for no reason and shot someone calmly complying with orders. I don't think Castile was going to engage in a shoot out over a broken brake light with his girlfriend and daughter in the car. He should have been fired the day this video came out. Everyone isn't fit for the job, and there's nothing wrong with law enforcement admitting that.
 
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Makoto Yuki

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yami4ct said:
If the only exposure to the people you're defending is when shit goes wrong, you will see everyone as a potential threat or trouble source. This feeds already ingrained biases you might have. Community outreach would at least help build a sense within officers that the people they are tasked to defend are people, and not just objects to be watched. These kinds of programs have definitely helped defuse tension between cops and communities in the past.

Cops should be like you describe, but in the end they are still just people. Once more, they are people who don't have exposure to minorities outside of them being involved in trouble. That's enough to turn a cop who's only slightly biased into a full racist dumbass.

I'm not saying this is THE solution. I'm not even saying it's a large piece of a puzzle, but for systematic problems like this, you need to work at the problem at many angles and any step at this point is better than where we're at.

I guess we need to distinguish that cops hiring racists and bigots is not the only issue here. Stricter hiring is not going to root out the issue. The problem is, the way we've built our system already instills and reinforces bigotry. The job right now is literally teaching our cops that minorities are their enemy, and we're reaping the results of that.
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Excellent post. Particularly the part in bold. Every incident of police violence will continue to reinforce these issues.
 
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Syriel

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Krejlooc said:
Nasau bay IS a typical whitebread suburb. This shit also happens in other white areas, like the Heights.

Police do not patrol black neighborhoods like you are claiming. This is a historic problem. Just examine the police response time in San Fransisco vs Oakland - average of 3 minutes vs 45 minutes.

You say you've lived in plenty of white neighborhoods... have you ever lived in the projects? Because I have. Hell, the first episode of OJ: Made in America is literally all about this.
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I take it you've never called the police in SF, because a three minute response time is beyond laughable. You MIGHT get that...if you call in an active shooter and start the clock from the moment a dispatcher actually comes on the line.

Actual SFPD response time is more like 2-3 hours. Hell, you're going to spend more than three minutes on hold just calling 911 here in SF.
 
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Krejlooc

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Syriel said:
I take it you've never called the police in SF, because a three minute response time is beyond laughable. You MIGHT get that...if you call in an active shooter and start the clock from the moment a dispatcher actually comes on the line.

Actual SFPD response time is more like 2-3 hours. Hell, you're going to spend more than three minutes on hold just calling 911 here in SF.
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So I take it that no, you've never lived in the projects. And apparently don't understand how averages work.
 
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Risette

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watching that video was incredibly distressing. No words.

I hope some justice comes out of this, but knowing the past...
 
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trembli0s

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Krejlooc said:
well yeah, that's the kind of things I'm talking about too. To give a better example - and I swear to god I'm not making this up - about 2 or 3 weeks ago, my sister was getting her kids ready to go to school/go to work after her husband had left, when she heard a voice through an intercom yelling "Step away from the rose bushes with your hands in the air and drop the weapon"

So she stepped outside - there was a middle eastern man in her rose bushes cutting her flowers. He was trying to explain that he thought they were beautiful and wanted to cut a few and plant them in his garden or something like that. The cops had been on patrol and found him in her front yard. They asked if she wanted to press charges and she said no, but told the guy that what he was doing was rude and he shouldn't be hanging around people's front yards like that.

They caught him on patrol, because that's what cops do in white neighborhoods. They integrate into the community, become a real common, persistent force. Night and fucking day compared to how they treat projects - the only time police come to the projects is to arrest people. They come, swoop in, and take you to jail. And never come back unless there is some other black person that needs to go to jail.
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My experience is that these neighborhoods, which are generally well off, have the resources to hire security to run those types of beats. Conversely, these cops are more likely to engage in these tasks because they're easier. Running a night patrol around River Oaks in Houston is sure as hell easier than running patrol in the Wards.

This is a very complicated problem that will only improve with community outreach, more training, better hiring standards, and the dissolution of the blue wall.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Why the fuck don't cops have rubber bullets yet? Seriously when the fuck are the people in charge gonna grow a fucking brain and/or die out so that a new generation can take over? I'm so tired of fearing for my life whenever I see a cop. :mad:
 
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GoldenEye 007

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BudokaiMR2 said:
I did, but the fact that it is daylight doesn't actually matter. I have been pulled over in broad daylight for the same thing. I am pretty sure it is still an infraction and they will assume you aren't going to fix it in the next few hours before the sun goes down.

edit: just to be perfectly clear, I am not attempting to justify or downplay anything. I am just pretty sure that the lights in that pic are the brake lights, not the tail lights.
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But if it was daylight and the brake lights were working, how would they know the tail lights were out? Unless you are saying you think the brake lights weren't working?

And not trying to imply you're downplaying anything. I want the facts too!
 
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Krejlooc

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trembli0s said:
My experience is that these neighborhoods, which are generally well off, have the resources to hire security to run those types of beats. Conversely, these cops are more likely to engage in these tasks because they're easier. Running a night patrol around River Oaks in Houston is sure as hell easier than running patrol in the Wards.

This is a very complicated problem that will only improve with community outreach, more training, better hiring standards, and the dissolution of the blue wall.
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They don't run patrol in the wards. I lived in 3rd ward, I heard gunshots nightly and can count on one hand the number of times police came out. And they actually have incentive to patrol that area, considering UH was within walking distance. But they still didn't.
 
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Jigorath

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What kind of spineless fucking wimp is this cop. Opens fire the second he sees a gun, and not even once, he has to shoot him four times. And then he just stands there with his gun drawn at a woman, a dying man, and a little girl.
 
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CountAntonius

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Social media and cellphone cameras will be what changes this. Its the only defense these people have and although a lot of people ignore it a lot of people finally get to see the reality.
 
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