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[Inuhanyou]

To be absolutely fair, no. I watched the video where Boogie talked about Anita and him at Vidcon. Boogie says that it's blown out of proportion and he wasn't "attacked" by Anita as some claim. And that they had 15 minutes of nice chat afterwards. But Boogie still stands right on the middle. And ofcourse some of his fans (and those who just want to sling mud at Anita) are using this against her. Boogie isn't doing it.

Boogie wasn't painting Anita as a "raging feminazi" or anything close to that.

Boogie standing 'in the middle' between a racist/sexist and a feminist is the weirdest thing ever. Like your obviously not a racist right? What common ground do you want to find? You want the 'discourse' to calm down without talking about the actual problem?

We do that too much already

 

[Inuhanyou]

At this point, I don't expect someone who whines about the "regressive left" to be particularly left-wing on, well, anything.

Progressives are the regressive left, to alt righters and so called political 'centrists'. Its nothing new.

 

[Famassu]

It will get retweeted, i would have to unfollow many gamerfriends from every political side. And it doesn't ruin my life to be honest, i'm not outraged, why would I? i just disagree and have my opinion on people like this, making a sexism debatte out of everything. Harassment is a different thing and it's her right to be angry about it. That doesn't mean I can't criticise her.

You can disagree over how much it really affects BOTW's quality, but unarguably BOTW's Zelda is still somewhat rooted in a dated, cliched and, yes, sexist "save the princess" crap that isn't wrong to be pointed out & criticized. Characters depictions can be flawed in that way. They gave Zelda more of a personality and even interest in science. That's good! But maybe then write a story where she is an active part of the story and actively makes use of her scientific knowledge, instead of relegating her to yet another helpless princess role.

Some people react like this was a murder case.

The rhetoric these people uphold does get people killed.

 

[BocoDragon]

I'm ashamed to say I actually absorbed Sargon of Akkad's interview on Joe Rogen's podcast yesterday.

Surprise surprise, he's kind of a garbage person.

Educated; he has a reasonably intelligent mind, true. But he's the kind of person where you'll be talking about the weather and he'll find a way to derail it into a rant about SJWs.

 

[Rayis]

The reactionary wave that has overtaken YouTube is frustrating, so much so that harassment has become extremely profitable on the site, this trend worries and perplexes me.

 

[TwilightPrincess]

Tolerance is not an perpetual moral code.

It's a contract that says you won't be shitty to people who are not a present harm to you or others, else you reap the consequences of social ostracization the moment you break it.

Sargon and his ilk have long since broken that contract by making an actual living off of harassing a woman and her followers for talking about video games in a way they don't like.

They deserve to be called human excrement, and more.

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her), of course you can, but in this case you are not much better. What comes next? Rats?

 

[Inuhanyou]

I'm ashamed to say I actually absorbed Sargon of Akkad's interview on Joe Rogen's podcast yesterday.

Surprise surprise, he's kind of a garbage person.

Educated; he has a reasonably intelligent mind, true. But he's the kind of person where you'll be talking about the weather and he'll find a way to derail it into a rant about SJWs.

With that calm demeanor and british accent, its obvious why he has attracted followers. He's like a politician, he can basically convince you of anything if he just obfuscates and sounds composed enough.

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her), of course you can, but in this case you are not much better. What comes next? Rats?

If a person is acting like a shit head, they are a shithead. Sargon can imply the absolute worst things about a person but as long as he doesn't call people bad names its okay?

 

[Alebrije]

I'm ashamed to say I actually absorbed Sargon of Akkad's interview on Joe Rogen's podcast yesterday.

Surprise surprise, he's kind of a garbage person.

Educated; he has a reasonably intelligent mind, true. But he's the kind of person where you'll be talking about the weather and he'll find a way to derail it into a rant about SJWs.

Usually evil people is wise, specially on promoting agendas and creating distractions.

 

[nesmar]

I'm surprised so many people here don't think Anita is full of shit.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I'm surprised so many people here don't think Anita is full of shit.

What is she full of shit about, specifically?

 

[Red Arremer]

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her), of course you can, but in this case you are not much better. What comes next? Rats?

Are you fucking serious?
These people have been stalking and harassing Anita for years, some have made thousands of dollars off of doing it.

Are you seriously saying her calling them out for being the shitbags that they are puts her onto the same level? What else should she do, just silently nod and smile at all the truckloads of abuse that gets run into her?

 

[Dynasty]

I'm ashamed to say I actually absorbed Sargon of Akkad's interview on Joe Rogen's podcast yesterday.

Surprise surprise, he's kind of a garbage person.

Educated; he has a reasonably intelligent mind, true. But he's the kind of person where you'll be talking about the weather and he'll find a way to derail it into a rant about SJWs.

He is good at talking about vague stuff but if he you ever try and go a level deeper, you realise he isnt that knowledgable in areas he speaks on.
This video debate demonstrates this very well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUD1RvFWzeE

 

[brad-t]

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her), of course you can, but in this case you are not much better. What comes next? Rats?

Calling someone excrement is not as bad as participating and profiteering from a coordinated hate campaign that seeks to threaten and silence women. It's calling a spade a spade.

 

[Zabka]

Rogan calling out Sargon for his victim complex was pretty funny.

 

[nesmar]

What is she full of shit about, specifically?

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

 

[Famassu]

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her), of course you can, but in this case you are not much better. What comes next? Rats?

There's nothing wrong with calling them the pieces of shit that they truly are. They do not show any respect to any of these people and actively work on shitting on people like Anita. Calling them shitheads is hardly some "now you've crossed the line to the dark side too" moment, get some perspective.

And, again, their kind of hateful rhetoric does get people killed and physically harmed in this world. Maybe they aren't the ones actually holding the bats or shooting the guns, but the bigotry they are vocally, actively & aggressively pushing forward is doing some real harm in this world when people take their words, attitudes & agendas and turn them into actions.

 

[Rayis]

I'm surprised so many people here don't think Anita is full of shit.

I'm surprised that people still give pieces of shit like Sargon of Akkad the benefit of the doubt.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

I'm surprised so many people here don't think Anita is full of shit.

Plenty of morons do. Lucky for us they tend to get banned for not being able to support their points, and/or showing just how bigoted they are.

Edit:

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

Oh...oh. You're one them, ain't you? Those morons, that is.

 

[Mael]

He is good at talking about vague stuff but if he you ever try and go a level deeper, you realise he isnt that knowledgable in areas he speaks on.
This video debate demonstrates this very well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUD1RvFWzeE

If you see his views on stuffs you actually know, you realize he's a fucking idiot.
Shaun&Jen also showed that the guy apparently doesn't know how to read at a level to process a study or even any kind of document.

 

[BocoDragon]

Rogan calling out Sargon for his victim complex was pretty funny.

There were a lot of times where Rogan genuinely reacted to him as being a pretty silly person.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

Lololol Marxist feminist ideology. You clearly don't know what marixist theory is

Her stuff is literally feminism 101. It's about as basic as it gets

 

[nesmar]

Plenty of morons do. Lucky for us they tend to get banned for not being able to support their points, and/or showing just how bigoted they are.

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

 

[IrishNinja]

As much as I hate that Joe Rogan had this guy on his podcast in the first place, at least there was this little golden moment of him exposing Sargon as a dipshit hypocrite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMyrzUTHOMU

damn, joe's useful for something after all, shut my mouth

Maybe this time it'll wake people up! Maybe this time it'll EXPOSE Anita for DOING HER JOB and getting PAID to TALK.

how DARE she, haha

That's not what non-profit means. Non-profit organisations aren't run by volunteers that spend their whole life doing work for free.

it's amazing people have to have this explained to them...yeah man, all those social workers are just independently wealthy, cause of ((((soros))))

Courtesy of Crossing Eden:

this is perfect

I'm surprised so many people here don't think Anita is full of shit.

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

the irony here is clearly escaping you

 

[Prologue]

30 pages in a day for this?


I must be living under a rock. I didnt even know this was a thing, yet alone a problem. The details in the OP are really sad.

 

[Crossing Eden]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

Would you call what she's doing cultural marxism? I absolutely dare you to even remotely try to refute anything that's been said about Carl ITT.

 

[Claude Augario]

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

Where are you people coming from?

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

I mean, sure I guess. It's a hell of a lot better than whatever echo chamber you crawled out of. I can't blame you for wanting some fresh air from that garbage heap though.

 

[Red Arremer]

If you see his views on stuffs you actually know, you realize he's a fucking idiot.
Shaun&Jen also showed that the guy apparently doesn't know how to read at a level to process a study or even any kind of document.

I remember seeing a callout video about Carl's stuff. I think it was about sexual abuse on college campuses.
Basically, Carl said polls aren't science, and in the same video he would use a poll as base for a point he makes.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

So he doesn't profit from harassment or what

 

[Crossing Eden]

I remember seeing a callout video about Carl's stuff. I think it was about sexual abuse on college campuses.
Basically, Carl said polls aren't science, and in the same video he would use a poll as base for a point he makes.

That was another video from Hbomberguy.

 

[Basketball]

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

 

[Ferrio]

Where are you people coming from?

Simple answer, they've always been here. That's kinda the problem in the first place.

 

[Nepenthe]

No, that's your idea of tolerance and moral, nothing more. Nothing gives you a moral right to call human beings excrement (they didn't kill her)

So human beings can only be called names if they kill someone. Interesting how that leaves a lot of leeway for us to coddle serial harassers of women.

of course you can, but in this case you are not much better.

Hear that GAF? I'm not much better than people who make an actual living harassing women who discuss feminism.

What comes next? Rats?

Sure, why not? Rats, bustas, fuckbois, assholes, bitches, dicks, shitlords, embarrassments to the human species, the results of broken prophylactics- very little is off limits here in this case.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Where are you people coming from?

He seems to be some coward's alt.

 

[brad-t]

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

This is a great way to make yourself feel better about being ostracized or ejected from social spaces when people realize you're an asshole.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Where are you people coming from?

The woodwork

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

You don't care for him yet you care enough to defend him.

 

[Cheebo]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology.

Your mistake is calling the belief that "Hey, men and women are equal so why don't we have equal positive representations of both sexes in media" as a bad thing.

Your so called Marxist feminist ideology is the simple belief that women deserve equal representation as men in the media, that is all Anita talks about.

Those attacking feminism in the 2010's will be looked back upon in horror and embarrassment just like those attacking civil rights in the 1950s & 60s are looked at today.

You see these images?

Standing up against feminism will look JUST as bad in 20-30 years as these images. Before you attack feminism and "SJW's" think of how you want your grandkids to one day think of you.

 

[Nepenthe]

You don't care for him yet you care enough to defend him.

Gotta stick up for the rational men in the hugbox known as GAF.

 

[Rayis]

This is a great way to make yourself feel better about being ostracized or ejected from social spaces when people realize you're an asshole.

Fortunately for him, he can go back to /pol/, The_Donald and any other of those alt-right gathering spots and be embraced with open arms for standing up against those feminazi cuck sjw's.

 

[Red Arremer]

That was another video from Hbomberguy.

Nah it was Garrett's video I watched on it, but both of them are intertwined with each other anyway in trying to oppose and expose these guys.

 

[Inuhanyou]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

"Marxist feminist ideology". So you got all that from her attempting to raise a discussion on female portrayals in gaming and getting tons of reflex pushback on it?

Jesus man, go outside.

Its not even a matter of constructively criticizing her arguments on an individual basis in calm manner for what you disagree with her about so much as turning it into a vague battle of ideology which you can't even reasonably define i'm sure.

 

[Famassu]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

You can't look at video game women and not think that she has a point that women aren't depicted very well in video games. Like, even in comparison to Hollywood movies, games are even worse, with their 1000-year-old-dragons-that-look-like-sexualized-13-year-olds-with, way too common trope of women being rewards for doing heroic stuff, bikini armors & such. There's nothing dishonest about pointing those things out, especially when she does also bring up positive examples.

And how is Carl "not what he is made out to be" when he showed up at a panel Anita was attending purely as an indimitation (or "trolling") tactic, with the intention that their presence would hopefully shut her up or a t least cause her some mental anguish. After years of harassment, you cannot make the argument that they were there, en masse, to just hear her out. That's pure, fucking stalkery, considering how he & his kind have obsessed over Anita for years now. You are ignorant as fuck if you try to argue anything otherwise.

 

[ScientificPizza]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

uh oh

Ah, so an echo chamber has been maintained.

uh oh x2

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

As much as I hate that Joe Rogan had this guy on his podcast in the first place, at least there was this little golden moment of him exposing Sargon as a dipshit hypocrite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMyrzUTHOMU

You know... Joe Rogan, he seems to be doing something that he feels is interesting or provocative in some way, but that sargon guy is 100% obviously full of shit. Like he's holding up an 'I'm full of shit' sign, and there's Joe Rogan sincerely interviewing him like he's Barbara Walters. It's absurd what's going on these days with commentators and personalities like Rogan who interview these clowns like there is some sincere insight to be gleaned from it. Does nobody want to go on his show, he has trouble finding guests to interview? Someone like Sargon is topical, I guess if I'm being generous, but beyond the fact that it's topical there is nothing real there. Rogan knows it. He should also know there is a way to do that kind of show and limit guests to people who have actually valuable things to say, not simply giving a platform to some phony because that person is saying things that other people agree with.

 

[Dynheart]

Boogie standing 'in the middle' between a racist/sexist and a feminist is the weirdest thing ever. Like your obviously not a racist right? What common ground do you want to find? You want the 'discourse' to calm down without talking about the actual problem?

We do that too much already

I do not think, in this case, that it is the belief that he is in the middle ground with (would not make sense), but the arguments presented. There is really no common ground, and even feminists are at each others throats on how the issue should be solved.

Whether you are for, or against modern feminism, either side can present arguments that are completely face palm worthy. However, both sides can have merit to their argument. Some chose to sit back and evaluate the commentary instead of choosing a side in that regard (I believe boogie in this case). That does not mean that there are not people out there who just want to slander, they exist where ever you go, and no matter the subject.

 

[nesmar]

damn, joe's useful for something after all, shut my mouth



how DARE she, haha



it's amazing people have to have this explained to them...yeah man, all those social workers are just independently wealthy, cause of ((((soros))))



this is perfect





the irony here is clearly escaping you

I would expect people from both sides discussing the issue. You've made an incorrect assumption. Clearly that kind of thing doesn't happen here.

 

[Mael]

Your mistake is calling the belief that "Hey, men and women are equal so why don't we have equal positive representations of both sexes in media" as a bad thing.

Your so called Marxist feminist ideology is the simple belief that women deserve equal representation as men in the media, that is all Anita talks about.

Those attacking feminism in the 2010's will be looked back upon in horror and embarrassment just like those attacking civil rights in the 1950s & 60s are looked at today.

Fighting progress NEVER looks good in the long run. You are going to be embarrassed to admit this views to your grandkids one day, that is how this always plays out.

The fun part is that the idiots who are attacking feminism in the 2010's are usually the same idiots who really like what they see when they watch those attacking civil rights.
There's 1 thing they like about the civil right movement though, it's fucking up MLK quotes though.

 

[Nepenthe]

However, both sides can have merit to their argument.

Give us an argument that adds merit to misogyny in the gaming community.

 

[Toxi]

General belief in Marxist feminist ideology. More specifically, the dishonest cherry picking to "prove" her point. I don't care for Carl since he wastes time on silly nonsense like Anita, but he's definitely not what he is made out to be by the people here.

Sargon is an absolute cunt. When you say this in a video in the wake of Elliot Rogers murdering 6 people...

Before your stupid social justice feminine [sic] bullshit, [mass murders] didn't happen on this scale, it's crazy! This is a disease of the modern age. You are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don't have any options left. When someone takes the option of absolute insanely last resort, you have to wonder, what kind of system is producing them? And I'll tell you what, Laci, it is a fucking feminist system that is doing this!

You don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.