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[uncelestial]

I'm 5'8" which ought to be fine but I have been called "small" in front of large crowds before (tech conferences) and it was a shitty feeling. All I did was wave to the crowd when I was introduced and the speaker said "yes, wave, because you're a small person." What the fuck?

My wife is my height and absolutely gorgeous and I had a good dating life before settling down. To be honest I had so many deal-breakers I applied to women I can't really complain about them passing me over. And professionally I'm doing great too and have been promoted from senior to lead to manager in the tech world so I can't complain about not being seen as a "leader."

I've also been losing my hair since I was 18 and have an awful hairline.

But I think if you just have confidence, which being short can definitely impact, most of the perception problems can be overcome. For whatever reason I've always known who I was and, since I was a teenager anyway, believed that the world was a problem but I was not. Cocky, I guess, but it works.

 

[Nista]

It's all nice and good being tall, but it kinda sucks when you get older and have back and joint problems. I'm sure my dad would have less pain and hassle getting around if he wasn't 6'7"

I'm mostly sad cause I've totally lost an inch from gravity over the years. I can still wear 4" heels if I want to mimic that drag queen giant glamour effect though.

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Nervousness and worry contribute to hair loss, you know.

I'm neurotic.

 

[perfectchaos007]

A fedora and combat boots can help add 3-4 inches of height at any time.

I have thought about spiking my hair up. Or wearing a cowboy hat, which compliment height boosting boots nicely.

It's all nice and good being tall, but it kinda sucks when you get older and have back and joint problems. I'm sure my dad would have less pain and hassle getting around if he wasn't 6'7"

I'm mostly sad cause I've totally lost an inch from gravity over the years. I can still wear 4" heels if I want to mimic that drag queen giant glamour effect though.

You shouldn't have any signs of atrophy until you're in your 50's.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

And what would you say to a short person in this thread who might ask if all the manlet talk and the "just suck it up" stuff is really necessary?

Wouldn't say much. It's a term they use..literally happened in here. Some folks own it. Others don't. I'm certainly not telling anyone how to be effected by it..

Shit..I've gotten shit for being tall. No one escapes whipping, my friend..

 

[Subpar Spatula]

bald

I am so scared to lose my hair. Fucking terrified.

You should be. Hair loss means more hair growth on the ass. I don't know why it does that.

 

[marrec]

But apparently you draw the short end of the stick in the dating scene, as well as in career opportunities. Plus you're the butt of the joke all the time.
There are degrees of things having an impact on your life. It doesn't have to be black or white.

Okay sure but there are more factors at play in this shit than just tall or short. Ya played the genetic lottery and came up short but it's not a fuckin' death sentence or anything.

Hell, pretty people get paid more than ugly people and have better luck at dating as well. I'm not saying that there isn't a bias, clearly there is, but lets not make dumb equivalences like comparing it to other prejudices cause that's just gunna cause people to realize that short people don't actually have it that bad.

 

[Gaz_RB]

It's sort of like ugly or fat people. It's seen as unattractive and that's the kind of prejudice you'll never solve.

 

[F0rneus]

Being bald is definitely worse. There's nothing funnier than tall bald people thinking they can pull it off because Dwayne Johnson can. Shaving because you're balding isn't a look, it's a compromise.

See now that's horseshit. Now there's a thread. And I say that with a full head of hair. You sound like a terrible person.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Okay sure but there are more factors at play in this shit than just tall or short. Ya played the genetic lottery and came up short but it's not a fuckin' death sentence or anything.

Hell, pretty people get paid more than ugly people and have better luck at dating as well. I'm not saying that there isn't a bias, clearly there is, but lets not make dumb equivalences like comparing it to other prejudices cause that's just gunna cause people to realize that short people don't actually have it that bad.

But why can't there be a conversation on the subject without the clowning?

I'm honestly not affected personally, but I usually err on the side of empathy with these things.
There are people that are completely preoccupied with their perceived inadequacies in terms of height. It sucks.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

It's sort of like ugly or fat people. It's seen as unattractive and that's the kind of prejudice and that's something you'll never solve.

And that's another thing. Fat. People hate fat jokes. Anecdotally, I mainly hear that shit from folks on the doughy side. The internet is a completely different beast, mind you. All my examples are real world..

 

[Glass Rebel]

See now that's horseshit. Now there's a thread. And I say that with a full head of hair.

Sure, baldy.

 

[Adaren]

This is why I'm afraid that we'll never be able to live in a society without sexism, racism, and other forms of discrimination.

We make baseless judgments about people using a thousand different meaningless factors, height and appearance among them. If we don't even consciously acknowledge these sorts of stupid, irrational, primal snap-judgments, then what makes us think that we can overcome them?

 

[marrec]

But why can't there be a conversation on the subject without the clowning?

I'm honestly not affected personally, but I usually err on the side of empathy with these things.
There are people that are completely preoccupied with their perceived inadequacies in terms of height. It sucks.

Eh, cause dudes clown on each other is the simple answer. I can't grow a proper beard to save my life, and dudes clown on me for that. I have short friends, and I clown on them, they return it in some way.

Also, there's no solution to this beyond telling people to stop clowning on short folk, which clearly isn't going to happen.

 

[MastAndo]

Which is worse. Being short or being bald? I have a few friends who would give up their height advantage over me for regaining their locks.

Depends on age and all that, and how short we're talking. I'm about 6'2" and balding, but also 37, so at this point I'm like whatevs. That said, I'd be cool with knocking a few inches of my height in exchange for a full head of hair...not below 5'10" though.

Also, a lot of the short guys I know, well...the Napoleon complex can be a real thing. I'm not so sure I'd trade a lifetime of hair in exchange for that.

 

[norm9]

You all may not know this because I talk like a six footer with a nice wingspan, but I'm actually only 5'9-5'10".

 

[Badabing]

I'm 6'5 and I wouldn't trade it for the world

 

[nickinerdface]

as a 5'9" woman i have to say that dating has been very similar for me when it comes to dudes lol. a lot of "i'm too tall" or insecure feelings if i wear heels and i'm over 6ft. also dudes i'm not even interested in telling me that i'm too tall because i guess they needed to let me know!

 

[Glass Rebel]

Eh, cause dudes clown on each other is the simple answer. I can't grow a proper beard to save my life, and dudes clown on me for that. I have short friends, and I clown on them, they return it in some way.

Also, there's no solution to this beyond telling people to stop clowning on short folk, which clearly isn't going to happen.

Thanks for the clarification, patchy.

 

[radios shipping overview]

But why can't there be a conversation on the subject without the clowning?

A lot of people just can't leave well enough alone.

 

[marrec]

Thanks for the clarification, patchy.

;_;

You all may not know this because I talk like a six footer with a nice wingspan, but I'm actually only 5'9-5'10".

I never woulda guess tbh, you're so well spoken.

 

[Beardz]

6'1 here and I love it.

I prefer to date short girls, my limit is taller than me, I would feel very weird (I feel weird with girls with my same or near my height).

 

[Clockwork]

I am 6'1" and I could never date a woman my height. Probably 5'10" would be pushing it. The tallest girl I ever dated was 5'8" and my current girlfriend is 5'4".

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Sure, baldy.

lol..The ONE thing I thought would skip me. Dad was 5'2 and i'm 6'4..last thing I thought I'd inherit from the dude was baldness. And the irony is that my girl has always loved me bald, yet i'd blow my shit out almost like the finger. 35 was the worst year..😢

 

[norm9]

I never woulda guess tbh, you're so well spoken.

Gonna buy you a Norelco for the nice words.

 

[SummitAve]

I don't find myself considering height ever. I don't get the hating or the insecurity. I wouldn't want to be with someone who obsesses over either.

 

[cordy]

Honestly if you're short you should just call that shit out if people make fun of your height. Me, I'm short and the moment people started making comments I started making comments right back. In school it sucked but once I hit high school I learned to deal with the punches (alongside the fact that I'm black in a Southern state). People somehow seem to think it's ok to comment on height and while I'm used to it and while I can take a lot, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna comment on your weight if you're free to do that. On the real, people seem to think some things are ok while others aren't ok. Either stop all the physical shaming (as you should, really) or say they all apply. "Oh it's my preference", come on now girl.

Just don't shame people in general.

 

[Acyl]

I'm 5'8, girlfriend is 5'9. FIGHT THE POWER!!!!

 

[Belker]

as a 5'9" woman i have to say that dating has been very similar for me when it comes to dudes lol. a lot of "i'm too tall" or insecure feelings if i wear heels and i'm over 6ft. also dudes i'm not even interested in telling me that i'm too tall because i guess they needed to let me know!

It must be problematic, though I wonder if it's as difficult for tall women as it is for shorter men.

I'm not sure that women reject shorter men because they would feel inadequate, rather that it's something they're just predisposed to prefer. As you suggest, I think men who don't want to date tall women - that's more to do with insecurity and how their perceive their own masculinity.

If you aren't right for them - they're not right for you.

 

[broncobuster]

If I'm being honest, as a guy my preference is someone shorter than me. Everyone has their preferences. But it ain't a strict rule or whatever. If someone is 5'10" and stands taller in heels, that's fine. Ultimately that's inconsequential.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I don't find myself considering height ever. I don't get the hating or the insecurity. I wouldn't want to be with someone who obsesses over either.

A winner es tu!

 

[Dali]

Which is worse. Being short or being bald? I have a few friends who would give up their height advantage over me for regaining their locks.

I'd rather be bald. I keep my hair super short anyway. I use clippers and cut myself almost bald every month anyway. It's not a big deal to me.

 

[Daingurse]

Speaking of height, a lot of dudes lie or straight up don't even know their actual height. I'm 5'10" barefoot (yes I've been measured, accurately), and several times both men and women have told me I have to be "around 6 foot". With dudes it's mostly "nah I'm 5'10" so you're taller"....when he's clearly shorter than me. If he's taller it's like "nah, you have to be 6' because I'm 6'2". I'm looking at them like "I know my fucking height dude stop lying" lol.

With women it's usually "you're only 5'10"? You look taller". Like yeah dudes have been lying to you about their height your whole life lol.

My uncle was telling me that I must be at least 6'5", because he's 6'4". I'm pretty damn sure I'm 6'4" lol. Not the only case where this has happened either lol. Definitely a common thing people do!

 

[lightskintwin]

I'd rather be bald. I keep my hair super short anyway. I use clippers and cut myself almost bald every month anyway. It's not a big deal to me.

Black men being bald is different from White men being bald.

 

[F0rneus]

Sure, baldy.

Nope. Just an average guy who doesn't judge people. Work on yourself.

 

[perfectchaos007]

as a 5'9" woman i have to say that dating has been very similar for me when it comes to dudes lol. a lot of "i'm too tall" or insecure feelings if i wear heels and i'm over 6ft. also dudes i'm not even interested in telling me that i'm too tall because i guess they needed to let me know!

eh. I honestly don't care if a woman is taller than me or not. The only reason why I may not ask out a woman that I like who is taller than me is that I'm almost positive that SHE would have a problem dating a shorter guy. And it is true that most women do not want to date someone shorter than them.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

If I'm being honest, as a guy my preference is someone shorter than me. Everyone has their preferences. But it ain't a strict rule or whatever. If someone is 5'10" and stands taller in heels, that's fine. Ultimately that's inconsequential.

I'm more extreme. My girl is 5 foot nothing..kids have been taller than her since they were 11 lol..

Black men being bald is different from White men being bald.

 

[uncelestial]

 

[norm9]

I don't find myself considering height ever. I don't get the hating or the insecurity. I wouldn't want to be with someone who obsesses over either.

Only uggos think like this.

Nope. Just an average guy who doesn't judge people. Work on yourself.

Dude with a beard, of course.

 

[D i Z]

I've had many conversations with dudes about this subject over years. Before there was ever a disclaimer on dating sites about height there was always one thing that was common in all of those conversations. Back then people had to actually see a person in the flesh before rolling over in their head what they were actually looking for. They weren't flipping though photos like they were furniture shopping. The insecurity of the dude was the same back then. Only it used to be "she's too tall". Seriously would hear that from practically everyone. Different way of looking at the same insecurity, but now women can actually say what they want and not have their time wasted.

 

[Dali]

Black men being bald is different from White men being bald.

Sucks for them, lol.

Guess they can't all be Stathom.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Nope. Just an average guy who doesn't judge people. Work on yourself.

it's just dudes clowning on dudes, dude

lmaooo

 

[Gordon Shumway]

To be fair, the Priebus and men crying thread combo gets more play..

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

I'm 5 foot 5. I've never been in a relationship, but height is pretty damn low in the list of reasons why.

Spoiler

Though I'd like to be with a taller woman.

 

[lightskintwin]

Really?

Black men rocking a bald head is viewed more as attractive than White men rocking a bald head.

Do you disagree?

 

[Subpar Spatula]

But why can't there be a conversation on the subject without the clowning?

I'm honestly not affected personally, but I usually err on the side of empathy with these things.
There are people that are completely preoccupied with their perceived inadequacies in terms of height. It sucks.

We all understand the issues with heightism IE tall people are more selected for jobs or dating. If someone made a thread about how he was disqualified for a position because of his height people would be more sympathetic. These threads generally are more situated in the dating area. It's not wrong to vent dating frustrations because you feel you were discriminated against. Most people can understand and discuss why that's wrong. It's when you start feeling entitled to conversations, dates, etc that you get ribbed on. There's always this slant in these height conversations that puts the blame on this man's failure on the woman. People notice this. It's a lot like the nice guy act.

 

[uncelestial]

To be fair, the Priebus and men crying thread combo gets more play..

lol that one feels pretty good, I can see why

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Really?

Black men rocking a bald head is viewed more attractive than White men rocking a bald head?

Do you disagree?

Guess I am. Now, if you trying to get into some deeper sociopolitical shit..

I'm talking in general..

 

[Glass Rebel]

Really?

Black men rocking a bald head is viewed more as attractive than White men rocking a bald head.

Do you disagree?

Not when you're pudgy. Then it's about the same.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

lol that one feels pretty good, I can see why

No doubt..😂

Not when you're pudgy.

LOL