Doesn't matter. They're a cancer on sports.
They're a wonder drug in medicine and for those recovering from injuries.
Guess which one actually matters?
Doesn't matter. They're a cancer on sports.
Sad, hopefully this opens peoples eyes to the dangers of drugs.
Lets not get into "moderation" its a drug, you shouldnt be using it, period.
They're a wonder drug in medicine and for those recovering from injuries.
Guess which one actually matters?
Yeah they are responsible for their action but your statement via let them go crazy with it is just irresponsible. Steroids are drugs. Like any other drug, nobody should go crazy with it. It's medically ignorant and logically unsound. It leads to abuse and death.
Doesn't matter. They're a cancer on sports.
I couldn't care less about that but every sport needs zero-tolerance+++
There's some great work being done in many confederations, but bodybuilding is by far the worst.
I blame the modern pro bodybuilding organizations for this. They keep encouraging these guys to get bigger and freakier and there's a natural trickle down effect on the normal joes.Modern bb is the problem, not the roids.
Arnold and his generation took steroids too, and while a few of them may have had issues, many of them lived long lives (or are still alive) and died of common things that people NOT on PEDs die of.
The difference is the size of the stack that modern BBs take, and insulin. Today, people (like the late Rich Piana) take a fucking SHITTON of 'roids. Combined with crazy high dosages of HGH and Insulin, and small wonder that guys today develop issues early on.
Additionally, the steroids you can get today, due to the wonders of the Internet, are both easily accessible and, a lot of times, not of pharmacutical grade quality. It's some shit that they're mixing in a basement somewhere and selling for cheap online. God knows what you're pumping into your system. Arnold's generation was getting the real deal, and didn't take nearly as much of it. That's why they looked different. They were very very muscled, yes. But also athletic looking. Almost sleek. Nowadays? Muscle guts and bloated, synthol injected bodies are the norm.
Arnold himself has commented on how downhill bodybuilding as a whole has gone.
Schwarzenegger is 70 and still looks pretty healthy. Were the steroids different back then or is he just lucky/rich so he can bypass a lot of common problems.
Are you really implying that steroids are not capable of exasperating health issues?
So your original post was talking to no one since you assumed people were attributing steroids to be his main cause of death when it seems that everyone here is posting with the understanding that steroids exasperated any health issue he would have had.
I blame the modern pro bodybuilding organizations for this. They keep encouraging these guys to get bigger and freakier and there's a natural trickle down effect on the normal joes.
I saw a video of Kai Green the other day and he doesn't even look human anymore. It's like he's a sci-fi shooter villian designed by the art team at EPIC Games.
And they are available for use for those purposes under the direct medical supervision of a medical professional so what's your point?They're a wonder drug in medicine and for those recovering from injuries.
Guess which one actually matters?
Yup, these judges give zero fucks, they prefer bloated abs and shoulder pads to Frank Zanes perfect physique, its insane.
ITT: people drawing hasty conclusions about somebody's death. Initial reports state that he died from a cocaine OD, and as much as some of you would like steroids to be the main cause of his death, they weren't.
Left humanity behind
Respected him a lot more than your stand fitness models/bodybuilders due to how open he was about his cycling. I'm pretty sure he's flat out said don't do what I do because it's not safe. He'd eat a pint of ice cream before bedtime!
Hate these ripped to shreds guys acting like they're clean, just admit your taking shit.
Didn't he turn out to be pretty racist?
I couldn't care less about thatThey're a wonder drug in medicine and for those recovering from injuries.
Guess which one actually matters?
You "couldn't care less" about medicine and those recovering from injuries?
Creatine... not even once, kids. Stay natty.
That isn't relevant to anything.
Doesn't matter. They're a cancer on sports.Better drugs are the biggest reason we live to 80 now. Table salt and sugar are drugs or are drug-adjacent (opinions are mixed), and sodium and glucose are necessary for survival.
There is a conceptual wall between PED and anything else you want to label a "drug".
It's relevant to this:
So because something is "a cancer on sports," the fact that they're allowing people to live healthier lives "doesn't matter"?
"anything else you want to label a "drug""?
lol
I don't even know why you're conflating PED and medicine.
A Performance Enhancing Drug is a medicine.
"Drugs" are used for a multitude of things.
Many "Performance Enhancing Drugs" can help people live healthier, better lives.
That racist rant he went on is something else.
Ahhh, so he didn't just look like an asshole.
That dude did not look sleek:Modern bb is the problem, not the roids.
Arnold and his generation took steroids too, and while a few of them may have had issues, many of them lived long lives (or are still alive) and died of common things that people NOT on PEDs die of.
The difference is the size of the stack that modern BBs take, and insulin. Today, people (like the late Rich Piana) take a fucking SHITTON of 'roids. Combined with crazy high dosages of HGH and Insulin, and small wonder that guys today develop issues early on.
Additionally, the steroids you can get today, due to the wonders of the Internet, are both easily accessible and, a lot of times, not of pharmacutical grade quality. It's some shit that they're mixing in a basement somewhere and selling for cheap online. God knows what you're pumping into your system. Arnold's generation was getting the real deal, and didn't take nearly as much of it. That's why they looked different. They were very very muscled, yes. But also athletic looking. Almost sleek. Nowadays? Muscle guts and bloated, synthol injected bodies are the norm.
Arnold himself has commented on how downhill bodybuilding as a whole has gone.
Yes but why defend their use in sports?
That dude did not look sleek:
Yes but why defend their use in sports?
Because they are often used in sports as medicine. The issue is one of perception. Nobody balks when a guy takes a cortizone shot in order to not miss the big game, in fact they are often praised as tough and heroic, yet all that is is a drug that helps someone perform. A "performance enhancing drug" if you will. Yet those are probably worse for you than a lot of stuff that is demonized and banned. They are used in sports all the time, tons of medical enhancements are accepted in sports. It's a lot greyer than people like you want to believe.
I think Cortizone is a steroid. I might be wrong but I think it is. To further your point.
Cortizone is an itch cream containing hydrocortisone, which itself the medical variation of cortisol, which is a steroid hormone. But I think Ninja Scooter is referring to Cortisone, which is similar cortisol, and helps with inflammation and joint pains.
LMAo creatine is what you think that is or is harmful like steroids or something else worse? Oooooookay