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The counter speech that sparked a revolution.

TrainedRage

Banned


Mark Robinson tells off the city council on the topic of gun reform. Run for senate Mr. Robinson!!!! People like this are the ones we need representing our communities. Not 18 year old kids who have never known what the 'real world' is.
Bravo Mr. Robinson bravo.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
-Bomb Rod Serling reference. Preach.

-Describing an AR-15 as a glorified .22 and a foolish weapon to ever take to war doesn't pass scrutiny. 5.56 NATO is 5.56 NATO because it's the standard military assault rifle caliber across the western world's armed forces. It's been questioned more and more since Mogadishu et al but it's still far from foolish or useless. Regardless, AR-15s can be chambered in just about any caliber, not just .223/5.56; slightly different ammo tolerances but civilian AR-15 variants are widely available for each. Though there are typically a lot of little, mostly irrelevant differences between each civilian and military assault rifle model out there overall, the main relevant part is the presence or lack of the select fire switch for full auto. I doubt anyone on the other end of a military marksman's civilian spec SCAR 17S with another few grand in optics and accessories would have much of a chance to heckle that fool.

The problem with the old assault weapon ban is that it didn't demonstrate a very thorough understanding of what it was banning, and that's still a widespread sentiment today. The gentleman from the video is concerned about that, and those concerns are valid and widespread.

The classic talking point, and arguably less porous than the one used, highlights how a Mini-14 is fine under an arbitrary regulatory measure like the old assault weapon ban but an AR-15 is not, even though they're basically the same platform and can both be used for more or less the same purposes. The Mini-14 mostly just looks less scary, is less ergonomic to hold, and isn't friendly to non-scope attachments. None of that really matters much for the hypothetical mass shooter, but it matters a lot to most law-abiding gun enthusiasts. Something like a bump fire stock, on the other hand, sucks for practical legal uses but turns out to be really effective for indiscriminately mowing down hundreds of innocent people at a concert.

Any proposed gun control measures have to be approached logically and supported with evidence or none of it's going to hold up after all this social movement loses interest, just like last time around.
 

TTOOLL

Member
Great video! What he described happened in Brazil. They passed a law and people had to turn in their guns. Of course, criminals didn't do so.

The result? We had more than 60 THOUSAND violent deaths in 2016 alone, around 70% caused by people with guns.
 

camelCase

Member
Yeah the assault weapons ban was largely crap.

Lol holy shit that speech was fiery. Lost a little steam breaking down the tech of the gun but yea holy bawls.
 
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The Mule

Member
"I'm the majority." Doesn't seem that way anymore.

"You want to put it at my feet." No one is putting it at your feet. You're just playing victim.

"You want to restrict my right." Rights come and go. They are "enshrined" in a constitution and taken away on any given day. Stop putting them on a pedestal. They come and go based on the values of the people of the time.

"... to protect myself from the people you are talking about." There have been statements from gun rights activists at the Vegas shooting who have reversed their stance because they realised how absurd the idea of pulling at gun out during a shooting is. And didn't an armed guard/cop wait outside during the latest shooting? Owning guns doesn't make you safe. It makes you FEEL safe, but feelings don't match with reality.

"The criminals aren't going to turn their guns in." Yeah, no shit. No one expected this to be easy or quick.

"The people who are going to suffer will be us." Your people are already suffering from gun violence. More guns isn't going to help.

"Loonies from the left." Come on now. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Or is it bullets in schools? I can't remember the correct idiom for the US.

"We need to dispel all these myths and drop all this division." Yes, we do.

Seriously? Counter speech that sparked a revolution? He didn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't already been addressed. It's time to move on and actually make some meaningful changes, rather than being afraid of it. Change with the times, because it isn't going to wait for you.
 

TrainedRage

Banned
"I'm the majority." Doesn't seem that way anymore.

"You want to put it at my feet." No one is putting it at your feet. You're just playing victim.

"You want to restrict my right." Rights come and go. They are "enshrined" in a constitution and taken away on any given day. Stop putting them on a pedestal. They come and go based on the values of the people of the time.

"... to protect myself from the people you are talking about." There have been statements from gun rights activists at the Vegas shooting who have reversed their stance because they realised how absurd the idea of pulling at gun out during a shooting is. And didn't an armed guard/cop wait outside during the latest shooting? Owning guns doesn't make you safe. It makes you FEEL safe, but feelings don't match with reality.

"The criminals aren't going to turn their guns in." Yeah, no shit. No one expected this to be easy or quick.

"The people who are going to suffer will be us." Your people are already suffering from gun violence. More guns isn't going to help.

"Loonies from the left." Come on now. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Or is it bullets in schools? I can't remember the correct idiom for the US.

"We need to dispel all these myths and drop all this division." Yes, we do.

Seriously? Counter speech that sparked a revolution? He didn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't already been addressed. It's time to move on and actually make some meaningful changes, rather than being afraid of it. Change with the times, because it isn't going to wait for you.
Found the Looney Lefty.
 

llien

Member
So:

good citizens will disarm, bad guys gonna keep the guns - logical
AR15 is a "foolish weapon" - factually wrong, not to say, ridiculous
"I'm majority of the population, I have never committed a crime" - no, you are not in "never committed a crime" but in "never committed a crime and do not want to restrict gun laws"

So, yeah, another "revolutionary" speech ( I am too cynical to take the "original" "revolutionary" speech at its face value)
 

TrainedRage

Banned
So:

good citizens will disarm, bad guys gonna keep the guns - logical
AR15 is a "foolish weapon" - factually wrong, not to say, ridiculous
"I'm majority of the population, I have never committed a crime" - no, you are not in "never committed a crime" but in "never committed a crime and do not want to restrict gun laws"

So, yeah, another "revolutionary" speech ( I am too cynical to take the "original" "revolutionary" speech at its face value)
He said the AR15 would be foolish to use in combat as it's a semi auto .22 caliber rifle.

He said he never committed a felony, like most citizens. He is the majority. His point was why are we punishing law abiding majorities instead of putting the onus on the criminals.
 

JDB

Banned
I think a big problem is that the US is a country where a lot of people feel the need to own a gun as protection to begin with. Whether it's a realistic fear doesn't really matter, but I think that's the biggest hurdle for people who want to get rid or limit gun usage. It would require the country as a whole to become a whole lot safer which god knows would take a lot of time, effort and money. Using guns as protection against other guns is not really solving the root issue. I don't know how you'd even begin tackling all these issues, though.
 

Texas Pride

Banned
People don't like it but guns are a part of American culture. We're a country born out of conflict and outsiders who don't live here won't ever really understand our gun culture and why the right to bear arms is a right that can't just be taken away without a fight.
 

camelCase

Member
People don't like it but guns are a part of American culture. We're a country born out of conflict and outsiders who don't live here won't ever really understand our gun culture and why the right to bear arms is a right that can't just be taken away without a fight.

Yes, they are part of us as a culture. People often leave this out of the debate.
 

Moneal

Member
So:

good citizens will disarm, bad guys gonna keep the guns - logical
AR15 is a "foolish weapon" - factually wrong, not to say, ridiculous
"I'm majority of the population, I have never committed a crime" - no, you are not in "never committed a crime" but in "never committed a crime and do not want to restrict gun laws"

So, yeah, another "revolutionary" speech ( I am too cynical to take the "original" "revolutionary" speech at its face value)


Ar15 is a foolish weapon to take into military combat, as he said. No soldier is going to take a semi auto rifle into combat. they will take a selective fire weapon, with the ability to go full auto or burst fire, like the ones actually issued by the military.
 

LegendOfKage

Gold Member
"I'm the majority." Doesn't seem that way anymore.

Based on what, the people they interview for the news? The people who support "common sense" gun laws, because they don't want to disagree with the person holding the clipboard and talking about "common sense"?

No, he is still the majority, like it or not.

"You want to put it at my feet." No one is putting it at your feet. You're just playing victim.

Like hell no one is putting it at his feet. One of the most famous gun rights activists around right now has absolutely blamed the deaths of school children on the inaction of people who continue to fight for gun rights.

"You want to restrict my right." Rights come and go. They are "enshrined" in a constitution and taken away on any given day. Stop putting them on a pedestal. They come and go based on the values of the people of the time.

Rights are more important than "the values of the people of the time." If you don't believe me, let's do a poll of what the majority of people in the US currently think of Muslims and transgender people. I don't think you'd want that majority deciding their rights. I wouldn't want that.

"... to protect myself from the people you are talking about." There have been statements from gun rights activists at the Vegas shooting who have reversed their stance because they realised how absurd the idea of pulling at gun out during a shooting is. And didn't an armed guard/cop wait outside during the latest shooting? Owning guns doesn't make you safe. It makes you FEEL safe, but feelings don't match with reality.

I mean, I've heard stories where women were pro-choice until they actually witnessed late-term abortions, and then completely reversed their stance of abortion. But none of that is some smoking gun or "win button" for a debate on the subject.

Also, the idea that it would be of no benefit to have a gun on you during a situation with an active shooter is absurd. Honestly speaking, if you were locked in a room with 30 other people and a single mass shooter, would you want to have a gun or not have a gun?

"The criminals aren't going to turn their guns in." Yeah, no shit. No one expected this to be easy or quick.

Okay, we agree on that.

"The people who are going to suffer will be us." Your people are already suffering from gun violence. More guns isn't going to help.

If I have a gun, learn to use it effectively, learn to use it safely, and keep it locked up in my house, the ONLY thing that gun would be used for is self-protection. It is a net benefit to my safety, and the safety of my family. If I live in an especially bad neighborhood, it becomes even more statistically important.

"Loonies from the left." Come on now. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Or is it bullets in schools? I can't remember the correct idiom for the US.

Bullets in schools isn't much of an issue, statistically speaking. Your chances of dying in a mass school shooting are statistically lower than getting hit by lightning.

Listening to the handful of mass shooting victims about what we need to do about the gun problem in the US is like listening to the handful of terrorist attack victims about what we need to do about the terrorist problem in the US. Both are cases of people using tragedy to further their agenda, however well-intended they may be.

I'm with you on the "loony left" us vs them personal attacks, though. That's just dumb.

"We need to dispel all these myths and drop all this division." Yes, we do.

"We need to drop all this division" is code for "everyone just needs to agree with me," and it's used by the left and the right alike. Ending myths would be good for both sides of a debate, though. Actually looking into the number of mass shootings that use weapons or are committed by age groups that gun control advocacy supporters are opposed to would be a nice start. As would be the realization that the same murders committed by someone using an AR 15 could have been committed with handguns. If you ban certain guns, people will just use other guns. The deadliest school shooting in US history used nothing more than handguns.

Seriously? Counter speech that sparked a revolution? He didn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't already been addressed. It's time to move on and actually make some meaningful changes, rather than being afraid of it. Change with the times, because it isn't going to wait for you.

Neither did you. Neither did I, for that matter. But we agree about speech being a revolution. It's not. It's been viewed fewer than 85,000 times, and that bit about the AR-15 was kind of silly. This is just people celebrating someone who has the same opinion they do. I didn't find it to be a very good speech, and felt it was actually quite bad from a standpoint of trying to appeal to those who disagree with you.
 

TrainedRage

Banned
Based on what, the people they interview for the news? The people who support "common sense" gun laws, because they don't want to disagree with the person holding the clipboard and talking about "common sense"?

No, he is still the majority, like it or not.

"You want to put it at my feet." No one is putting it at your feet. You're just playing victim.

Like hell no one is putting it at his feet. One of the most famous gun rights activists around right now has absolutely blamed the deaths of school children on the inaction of people who continue to fight for gun rights.

"You want to restrict my right." Rights come and go. They are "enshrined" in a constitution and taken away on any given day. Stop putting them on a pedestal. They come and go based on the values of the people of the time.

Rights are more important than "the values of the people of the time." If you don't believe me, let's do a poll of what the majority of people in the US currently think of Muslims and transgender people. I don't think you'd want that majority deciding their rights. I wouldn't want that.

"... to protect myself from the people you are talking about." There have been statements from gun rights activists at the Vegas shooting who have reversed their stance because they realised how absurd the idea of pulling at gun out during a shooting is. And didn't an armed guard/cop wait outside during the latest shooting? Owning guns doesn't make you safe. It makes you FEEL safe, but feelings don't match with reality.

I mean, I've heard stories where women were pro-choice until they actually witnessed late-term abortions, and then completely reversed their stance of abortion. But none of that is some smoking gun or "win button" for a debate on the subject.

Also, the idea that it would be of no benefit to have a gun on you during a situation with an active shooter is absurd. Honestly speaking, if you were locked in a room with 30 other people and a single mass shooter, would you want to have a gun or not have a gun?

"The criminals aren't going to turn their guns in." Yeah, no shit. No one expected this to be easy or quick.

Okay, we agree on that.

"The people who are going to suffer will be us." Your people are already suffering from gun violence. More guns isn't going to help.

If I have a gun, learn to use it effectively, learn to use it safely, and keep it locked up in my house, the ONLY thing that gun would be used for is self-protection. It is a net benefit to my safety, and the safety of my family. If I live in an especially bad neighborhood, it becomes even more statistically important.

"Loonies from the left." Come on now. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Or is it bullets in schools? I can't remember the correct idiom for the US.

Bullets in schools isn't much of an issue, statistically speaking. Your chances of dying in a mass school shooting are statistically lower than getting hit by lightning.

Listening to the handful of mass shooting victims about what we need to do about the gun problem in the US is like listening to the handful of terrorist attack victims about what we need to do about the terrorist problem in the US. Both are cases of people using tragedy to further their agenda, however well-intended they may be.

I'm with you on the "loony left" us vs them personal attacks, though. That's just dumb.

"We need to dispel all these myths and drop all this division." Yes, we do.

"We need to drop all this division" is code for "everyone just needs to agree with me," and it's used by the left and the right alike. Ending myths would be good for both sides of a debate, though. Actually looking into the number of mass shootings that use weapons or are committed by age groups that gun control advocacy supporters are opposed to would be a nice start. As would be the realization that the same murders committed by someone using an AR 15 could have been committed with handguns. If you ban certain guns, people will just use other guns. The deadliest school shooting in US history used nothing more than handguns.

Seriously? Counter speech that sparked a revolution? He didn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't already been addressed. It's time to move on and actually make some meaningful changes, rather than being afraid of it. Change with the times, because it isn't going to wait for you.

Neither did you. Neither did I, for that matter. But we agree about speech being a revolution. It's not. It's been viewed fewer than 85,000 times, and that bit about the AR-15 was kind of silly. This is just people celebrating someone who has the same opinion they do. I didn't find it to be a very good speech, and felt it was actually quite bad from a standpoint of trying to appeal to those who disagree with you.
So agree to disagree. What he said was valid well put and true. And he didn't have to use his AP gov. Notes or practice for hours before hand to push his narrative on CNN. So I respect him even more for that.
 

prag16

Banned
In case anyone is still missing this (because it seems like that's the case), the thread title is a reference to another thread in which Nintendo Switch made the claim that a really clumsy, poorly delivered speech was "the speech that sparked a revolution" in terms of gun control. Absurd claim. Likely more absurd than the claims made in the OP about the speech in this topic.
 

TrainedRage

Banned
In case anyone is still missing this (because it seems like that's the case), the thread title is a reference to another thread in which Nintendo Switch made the claim that a really clumsy, poorly delivered speech was "the speech that sparked a revolution" in terms of gun control. Absurd claim. Likely more absurd than the claims made in the OP about the speech in this topic.
Yeah, thought people would notice. But it's supposed to be an ironic title. I don't think his speech will literally spark revolution. That would be as dumb as people wanting to ban AR-15's because they "are military guns"!!!!!!!!
 
In case anyone is still missing this (because it seems like that's the case), the thread title is a reference to another thread in which Nintendo Switch made the claim that a really clumsy, poorly delivered speech was "the speech that sparked a revolution" in terms of gun control. Absurd claim. Likely more absurd than the claims made in the OP about the speech in this topic.

Nah, you guys awoken the far right on the board. Hoping to keep this bumped for all the new people coming in. Should be proud.

In seriousness, what did you think would happen?
 
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TrainedRage

Banned
Nah, you guys awoken the far right on the board. Hoping to keep this bumped for all the new people coming in. Should be proud.

In seriousness, what did you think would happen?
What are you talking about? Where are the far right in this thread? Stop being lazy and regurgitating the same 'you are ALL far right' fictitious bogyman and make a point! Seriously, i'm getting so tired of this pathetic hot take.
Because if you disagree with someone.... Play identity politics, that won't sow more division here and around the country. :rolleyes: Dude YOU are part of the problem not some fantasy alt-right invasion you claim every other day .
 

appaws

Banned
Nah, you guys awoken the far right on the board. Hoping to keep this bumped for all the new people coming in. Should be proud.

In seriousness, what did you think would happen?

Oooga Booga. The scary "far right" is here. I may have said this in another thread but I think I may be the farthest right person here, at least on many issues....and I am basically like a Rand Paul. Maybe a little more of Ron Paul with more doubt about free trade. I've seen no resurgence of people to my right here, even after the departure of the puritan nanny brigade.
 

prag16

Banned
Nah, you guys awoken the far right on the board. Hoping to keep this bumped for all the new people coming in. Should be proud.

In seriousness, what did you think would happen?
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What are you talking about? Where are the far right in this thread? Stop being lazy and regurgitating the same 'you are ALL far right' fictitious bogyman and make a point! Seriously, i'm getting so tired of this pathetic hot take.
Because if you disagree with someone.... Play identity politics, that won't sow more division here and around the country. :rolleyes: Dude YOU are part of the problem not some fantasy alt-right invasion you claim every other day .

Found the Looney Lefty.

Man that was easy.
 
Oooga Booga. The scary "far right" is here. I may have said this in another thread but I think I may be the farthest right person here, at least on many issues....and I am basically like a Rand Paul. Maybe a little more of Ron Paul with more doubt about free trade. I've seen no resurgence of people to my right here, even after the departure of the puritan nanny brigade.

Obviously it was toungue in cheek, followed by "In seriousness".

Though it is fun to see the reactions sometimes.

But seriously, what did you think would happen if you made a topic like this? Really thought that this would be some hilarious parody and that people would have a good laugh?
 

TrainedRage

Banned
Obviously it was toungue in cheek, followed by "In seriousness".

Though it is fun to see the reactions sometimes.

But seriously, what did you think would happen if you made a topic like this? Really thought that this would be some hilarious parody and that people would have a good laugh?
Until you came in trying to troll yeah we were on topic having rational conversation. But here we are now talking about this made up group on here trying to take over the site. Gimme a fucking break. You are being a disingenuous troll. It's pretty obvious, just gonna ignore this crap unless you actually make a point.
 
Until you came in trying to troll yeah we were on topic having rational conversation. But here we are now talking about this made up group on here trying to take over the site. Gimme a fucking break. You are being a disingenuous troll. It's pretty obvious, just gonna ignore this crap unless you actually make a point.
Found the Looney Lefty.

Yup, pretty obvious you just want a rational conversation.
 

TrainedRage

Banned
Yup, pretty obvious you just want a rational conversation.
That was a joke uses from the video. If you watched the video in the OP you would realise that Mark was making a joke about himself comparing him to protesters who deplatform. Did you think I made that term up as an insult or was I making a refrence to he video?
 
That was a joke uses from the video. If you watched the video in the OP you would realise that Mark was making a joke about himself comparing him to protesters who deplatform. Did you think I made that term up as an insult or was I making a refrence to he video?

Ah so you're allowed to joke about insulting others but nobody else is. Only rational conversation.

"Made up the term", that's been a term for decades. Right up there with "priming the pump"
 

Texas Pride

Banned
Nah, you guys awoken the far right on the board. Hoping to keep this bumped for all the new people coming in. Should be proud.

In seriousness, what did you think would happen?


Thread whining or derailment? Take your pick. Either way your contribution to the thread was worthless.
 
Thread whining or derailment? Take your pick. Either way your contribution to the thread was worthless.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it worthless.

People seriously thinking that gun control = taking away guns from people who are law biding citizens is nothing but sensationalism.

And demonizing the police? Hell, republicans do that the most nowadays. Attacking the FBI constantly. Attacking the school guard who followed protocol during the school shooting.

In fact, only time republicans defend police nowadays is when they shoot someone. Why? Not because of the police. But because of guns. To claim that guns are our culture is stupid as well. Guns have been a part of every culture on the planet.

They just take wildly different attitudes about it when things go wrong. Looks like gun owners in the US live in constant fear that someone's going to bust in their door and murder their entire family at all possible moments.
 

Texas Pride

Banned
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it worthless.

People seriously thinking that gun control = taking away guns from people who are law biding citizens is nothing but sensationalism.

And demonizing the police? Hell, republicans do that the most nowadays. Attacking the FBI constantly. Attacking the school guard who followed protocol during the school shooting.

In fact, only time republicans defend police nowadays is when they shoot someone. Why? Not because of the police. But because of guns. To claim that guns are our culture is stupid as well. Guns have been a part of every culture on the planet.

They just take wildly different attitudes about it when things go wrong. Looks like gun owners in the US live in constant fear that someone's going to bust in their door and murder their entire family at all possible moments.


I think you're a good example of how intolerant the Left is in reality towards opposite viewpoints. For as much talk as you do about the "Far Right" it would be a good exercise in self awareness to recognize you are a part of the "Far Left" and as such feel like you have a vested interest in diminishing anything to the Right of your bubble thereby calling your credibility on these sensitive issues into question.
 

prag16

Banned
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it worthless.

People seriously thinking that gun control = taking away guns from people who are law biding citizens is nothing but sensationalism.

And demonizing the police? Hell, republicans do that the most nowadays. Attacking the FBI constantly. Attacking the school guard who followed protocol during the school shooting.

In fact, only time republicans defend police nowadays is when they shoot someone. Why? Not because of the police. But because of guns. To claim that guns are our culture is stupid as well. Guns have been a part of every culture on the planet.

They just take wildly different attitudes about it when things go wrong. Looks like gun owners in the US live in constant fear that someone's going to bust in their door and murder their entire family at all possible moments.
A lot of bias to wade through here, but the FBI is not the police, and the SRO at Parkland did not follow protocol.

And after how easy they let off Hilldawg with email-gate, and the current drawn out ongoing witch hunt, I can't blame some people for throwing the FBI some sideeye.
 
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A lot of bias to wade through here, but the FBI is not the police, and the SRO at Parkland did not follow protocol.

And after how easy they let off Hilldawg with email-gate, and the current drawn out ongoing witch hunt, I can't blame some people for throwing the FBI some sideeye.

Lol email gate. A whole giant nothing burger that became the second coming of benghazi. Oh hey, Trump destroyed emails too

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html
 
I think you're a good example of how intolerant the Left is in reality towards opposite viewpoints. For as much talk as you do about the "Far Right" it would be a good exercise in self awareness to recognize you are a part of the "Far Left" and as such feel like you have a vested interest in diminishing anything to the Right of your bubble thereby calling your credibility on these sensitive issues into question.

Opposing viewpoints doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I can argue to my hearts content.

Now, what makes me a part of the far left? Just because I don't agree with you? Pretty sure you're just trying your best to slander those who don't agree with you because you want your echo chamber.
 

Texas Pride

Banned
Now, what makes me a part of the far left? Just because I don't agree with you? Pretty sure you're just trying your best to slander those who don't agree with you because you want your echo chamber.[/QUOTE]


I'm not slandering anyone. Your post history is a compelling argument you're "Far Left". Echo Chambers and safe spaces just further isolate people from each other and nothing gets done when you don't have opposing views. That's not what I want. But you don't get to make shit up as you go along like this either.

To claim that guns are our culture is stupid as well. Guns have been a part of every culture on the planet.

If you don't like your views challenged as in this particular case don't throw shit at the wall hoping it sticks. And don't run for cover when you're called out on it.
 
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Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
lol what the hell happened to this board?
Christ

People are able to discuss, debate, and have counter arguments. People can actually be challenged without the ever looming threat of a banhammer and witch hunts. I know this may be frightening for you, but this is how the real world works.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Mark Robinson tells off the city council on the topic of gun reform. Run for senate Mr. Robinson!!!! People like this are the ones we need representing our communities. Not 18 year old kids who have never known what the 'real world' is.
Bravo Mr. Robinson bravo.
'No, I'm the majority!' /Spartacus impersonator voice

Mr. Robinson could have educated himself before making idiotic statements in public. ArmaLite AR-15 was a military select-fire rifle (assault rifle) that, though its numerous iterations, fought in a few dozens of wars.

'Killed in 15 minutes.' What an idiot.
 

JDB

Banned
'No, I'm the majority!' /Spartacus impersonator voice

Mr. Robinson could have educated himself before making idiotic statements in public. ArmaLite AR-15 was a military select-fire rifle (assault rifle) that, though its numerous iterations, fought in a few dozens of wars.

'Killed in 15 minutes.' What an idiot.
Yeah, but the majority of wars weren't fought with AR15s so it doesn't count. Non-AR15s are the majority!
 
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