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"I don't buy a console because it only has 1 or 2 games I'm interested in"

Geki-D

Banned
You're saying I should buy a 330€ Switch to play the like, 4 games on it that interest me then let it gather dust besides for maybe the 1 or 2 games per year that'll come out and I want to play?

I got a PS4 because Sony make good exclusives and a decent amount of them and when there are no exclusives out I can play the latest third party games. I'm using it pretty much all year round every year.
 
More than 10 exclusives that I might care.

Less than that the console is not for me. With Sony, for example, is easy.

Heavy japanese support + Sony studios = I will definitely buy it.


While MS, in the 360 era, got me with games like Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon, Gears, Halo, Wartech, Tenchu Z, Splinter Cell Conviction, Kingdom Under Fire, Alan Wake and Fable.

See? More than 10.


Now the one.... Well... Let's just say that... After the Xbox One, I will probably never buy an Xbox again.
Precisely this.

My time and money aren't something to frivolously fritter away, and this hobby requires a significant investment of both to get anything out of it.

Besides which, the OP seems to treat the situation as if there's not multiple competing products.

When 99% of games are on everything, exclusives are the only thing that makes one worth owning over the other.

So in actuality you're not just buying a console for 1 or 2 games, you're buying a second console to play 1 or 2 games.

Which is also why I doubt I'll ever own an Xbox again. If I can get all their games plus thousands more on PC, why on earth would I buy an Xbox?
 

sn0man

Member
I own a PS4 for, essentially, 3 games so far...but not because I bought a PS4, I was given it. 3 games, no matter how good they may be, is not enough of a library to get me to drop hundreds on a platform. Multi-plats are a no no because I can already play them on PC, so that only leaves exclusives...and amongst those my list of titles I'm interested in is extremely short. If Sony can't get me to drop money on more than 3 titles how do you expect them to sell me on the entire console?

So you played Knack... but what was the third game?:messenger_smirking:
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Only gaming peons would think otherwise.
For casual gamers I can understand but if you consider gaming your hobby then you do yourself a disfavor skipping any game that interests you
You can both be a hobbyist and at the same time think it's stupid to pay 600 bucks for a video game.

Having a hobby doesn't mean you can (and should) spend a lot of money on it.
 

ethomaz

Banned
That is what initially drive sales.
After that you find others games in that console and enjoy it.

Bloodborne alone sold a lot of PS4s for example.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
The thing I don't get is when people buy a system for a game that doesn't exist, or was teased with a logo or some shit.

Like people who bought a PS3 for Trico or a Switch for Metroid Prime 4. Like, why not just wait dude.
Even more puzzling to me is when people rush through/quit whatever game they're playing now to play a new single player game day one, the games are not going anywhere.
 
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Saruhashi

Banned
I don't really get this quote personally. If 1 or 2 games don't sell one on a console, than what would sell one on a console? Almost everyone hates console "gimmicks" that differentiate systems from one another, so I wouldn't even say that's a system seller anymore. So then that leaves games as a system seller. What's the point of getting a system if it doesn't have compelling games only available on it? Note: I'm not here to tell people how to spend their money, it's just I've seen this quote before and I want to understand the reasoning behind it.

The reasoning is that people are just talking shit online. Throw in a bit of Console Wars and there you go.

If you are into videogames then pretty much every console out there has something awesome for you. Unless you have a very, very, narrow and specific thing that you like and you just hate everything that isn't that.

Even older consoles and handhelds have a massive amount of quality content.

I've owned loads of different consoles over the years and never once owned something that didn't have awesome games to play.
So it doesn't really matter what system you get.

Some people just love the phrase "gathering dust".
 

Psykodad

Banned
I don't really get this quote personally. If 1 or 2 games don't sell one on a console, than what would sell one on a console? Almost everyone hates console "gimmicks" that differentiate systems from one another, so I wouldn't even say that's a system seller anymore. So then that leaves games as a system seller. What's the point of getting a system if it doesn't have compelling games only available on it? Note: I'm not here to tell people how to spend their money, it's just I've seen this quote before and I want to understand the reasoning behind it.
It's pretty simple: more than 1 or 2 games sell me a console.

For example, since the vast majority of games on Playstation and Xbox are the same, it comes down to exclusives.

Sony has a track-record of having multiple exclusives that I'm interested in each gen.

Xbox has only 1 or 2, maybe 3 each gen.

So it makes no sense to spend an extra couple 100 bucks on a second system for just 2 or 3 games.
Could saved me some money.

I don't see how that is hard to grasp.
 

Terenty

Member
If Sony continues with their philosophy of "shiny graphics first, gameplay second" i'm sure PS5 wont be worth buying just like PS4.

Easy decision really
 
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Hydroxy

Member
I recently bought Vita to play P4G. I might play some more games on it but the main reason was Persona.
 

GymWolf

Member
I have no problem with buying a console for a single game because 99% of times is not really a single game, in a 6-7-8 years gen you can surely find some other interesting exclusives games.

Switch was the only console who fucked me in the ass because zelda was less great than i was expecting and metroid prime is a development farce that will not come out before switch 2, and the few games i bought for this console were 7\10 games at best.
 

INC

Member
Really its only ps5 for me this gen, if I even bother, I have a pc, so by default have the xbox library and obviously pc games.

Until we see ps5 games its impossible to tell
 

German Hops

GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
I've done this twice, actually:

1 - the Nintendo 64 for Super Mario 64.
2 - the Wii for Xenoblade.

No regrets , and I'm about to buy a PlayStation 4 exclusively for FF7 Remake.
 
No regrets , and I'm about to buy a PlayStation 4 exclusively for FF7 Remake.

What a weird way to spell Bloodborne.

Anyway, I bought the gamecube when RE4 was an exclusive. Then it was not.

I haven't bought a console since, not because of that but PC is just so much better for me.
 

Psykodad

Banned
You can both be a hobbyist and at the same time think it's stupid to pay 600 bucks for a video game.

Having a hobby doesn't mean you can (and should) spend a lot of money on it.
Even if you can afford it, buying a €300+ console for 2 or 3 games over it's entire gen is just a massive waste of money.

I could buy my son a full set of clothes for that money and probably some games for PS5 on top of it, for example.
Worth more than some paperweight I bought just to feel like a "real" gamer.
 

pr0cs

Member
Worth more than some paperweight I bought just to feel like a "real" gamer.
To each his own, clearly you don't take gaming very seriously. It would be like telling someone who likes cars "why the fuck do you need those classic mustangs and Ferraris, your Toyota gets you from A to B just fine"
You wouldn't be wrong but then you really don't love the hobby like they do
 

lock2k

Banned
I don't really get this quote personally. If 1 or 2 games don't sell one on a console, than what would sell one on a console? Almost everyone hates console "gimmicks" that differentiate systems from one another, so I wouldn't even say that's a system seller anymore. So then that leaves games as a system seller. What's the point of getting a system if it doesn't have compelling games only available on it? Note: I'm not here to tell people how to spend their money, it's just I've seen this quote before and I want to understand the reasoning behind it.

I always end up buying all consoles because there's always something that interests me. I don't always do that when they launch, sometimes I'll buy them years later, but one or two games are enough to draw me in.
 

lock2k

Banned
I have no problem with buying a console for a single game because 99% of times is not really a single game, in a 6-7-8 years gen you can surely find some other interesting exclusives games.

Switch was the only console who fucked me in the ass because zelda was less great than i was expecting and metroid prime is a development farce that will not come out before switch 2, and the few games i bought for this console were 7\10 games at best.

Sell the Switch to me! lol

But I agree with you that even if you buy a console for a single game you'll end up finding exclusive stuff for it later that is really great.
 

bronxct1

Member
I bought a PS4 pro for MLB The show 18. I’ve ended up playing a few other games but I played the show for probably almost 50 hours. That alone was worth it for me. It was around $10/hour of entertainment.
I ended up playing some of the uncharted series and a little bit of god of war. Eventually I played blackout 4 then the console has sat for over a year. Eventually I’ll finish god of war and horizon.

One game is all you need if you’re going to play it for a good amount of time. PS4 pro was worth it for me even though I mostly play my Xbox.
 

Psykodad

Banned
To each his own, clearly you don't take gaming very seriously. It would be like telling someone who likes cars "why the fuck do you need those classic mustangs and Ferraris, your Toyota gets you from A to B just fine"
You wouldn't be wrong but then you really don't love the hobby like they do
This is one of the dumbest takes on gaming as a hobby someone can have.

It's nothing but preferences.

I could easily spend those €300+ on games coming out on PS5. 90% of games on Xbox is releasing on PS5 anyway.
Just decided to use an example of better uses of money instead of buying a paperweight console.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
To each his own, clearly you don't take gaming very seriously. It would be like telling someone who likes cars "why the fuck do you need those classic mustangs and Ferraris, your Toyota gets you from A to B just fine"
You wouldn't be wrong but then you really don't love the hobby like they do

it sounds like your real hobby is not gaming, but collecting plastic boxes with a bunch of chips inside.
 
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bad guy

as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
I bought a console (XB360) just for RDR. After playing through it I sold it and went back to my computer.
 
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Malakhov

Banned
Because paying several hundreds to play only one or a few games isn't worth it.

I bought a PS4 for ff7r and sold it after I was done with it. With my PC and my switch, I really have no use in keeping it, especially with the ps5 coming out and being backward compatible
 
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Moogle11

Banned
Even more puzzling to me is when people rush through/quit whatever game they're playing now to play a new single player game day one, the games are not going anywhere.

If it’s a story-driven game playing at launch can be ideal to avoid spoilers since there are so many online for big games these days. I mostly play those kind of games and just keep an eye on the schedule and plan around the ones I’m most excited for and don’t want spoiled so thst I dint have to quit or rush things.
 

lock2k

Banned
In the past, having a new Street Fighter was enough to draw me to a new console (SFIII made me crave the Dreamcast for years before I had the chance to grab one). Totally worth it at the time. Yes I know it came out to other platforms later and I also have them.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Imo, a system is worth it if I had an unique experience.
400usd for Rift S just to play Half-Life Alyx ? Fuck yeah, it's a life changing experience.
200usd for ps4 slm for Bloodborne alone isworth it. Not to mention god of war and some other games
 

Graciaus

Member
I bought a 360 originally just to play Halo 3. It can happen but I don't see that trend repeating ever again for me at least.

What's the point of getting a system if it doesn't have compelling games only available on it? Note: I'm not here to tell people how to spend their money, it's just I've seen this quote before and I want to understand the reasoning behind it.

People want a system for a bunch of games. Not just one or two. Not sure what you aren't getting here. That's a lot of money for a probably a little amount of time spent playing.
 

pr0cs

Member
it sounds like your real hobby is not gaming, but collecting plastic boxes with a bunch of chips inside.
Not when you actually play the games on the boxes. I really don't care about the boxes at all but the experiences to be had on them.
Some more casual people will say "oh I don't think there is enough value for me in that box, I'd rather buy clothes or beer" but for me I love the experiences and missing them would bother the shit out of me.
I just don't put those sort of people in the same category, they just don't love gaming on the same level.
As I said, to each their own. I just believe there are different levels to loving gaming. Those that treat it a a fun distraction and those that are passionate about it
 
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MetalRain

Member
I bought PS3 and PS4 quite early in their lifecycle. For me it was hope/promise of device that would serve for couple of years, not really one or two games. Currently I'm quite heavily invested in my PC so, not sure if there is any incentive to purchase PS5 nor Xbox Series X. There will be games that interest me for sure, but if current generation is any indication most of games will be as good or better with PC.
 

-Minsc-

Member
If a person is only interested in playing one game and it is only on one console then a person will buy said console to have that game experience. Having access to the largest game library is not a selling point for everyone.

When I was 19 I specifically bought a Dreamcast for Phantasy Star Online. Later I did purchase a few other games for the console but I ended up being less than half-heartedly interested in them. PSO was the game. Later in the year I bought a GameCube at launch. In this case it was the hype built from the Dolphins reveal to the GameCubes release which lead to my purchase, less so the games. Throughout the life of the console I played many games like Rogue Leader, Eternal Darkness, Soul Calibur II, Skies of Arcadia: Legends, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Time Splitters 2 & 3, Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Resident Evil (REmake) & 0, Prince of Persia, Viewtiful Joe, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time and some others I know I forgot. In that list, SoA would be my fave. This said, what was the game I played the most and would keep if given the choice to keep only one? Phantasy Star Online: Episode I&II. The GameCube was my last dedicated home console purchase. I did have access to a PS3, Wii and Wii U but I doubt I would have went out of my way to buy them.

Today, I don't game much at all. Have been playing some PSO 2 JP for a couple hours once a week or less. Might play Minecraft again in the future. That is a game I'd want to play specifically on a PC.

I may buy a Switch down the road for something like Octopath Traveler or the HD Xenoblade. Wouldn't really matter if the games were available on PC or whatever. There's an interest in being able to game on something that is not tied to my PC. A lot of my free time is spent setting here so comfy living room couch play would be nice. Though, this would require getting a bigger TV to make up for sitting further from the screen. Of course, this is just an idea and may never come to pass. Buying a game console at launch definitely seems dead for me.
 
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Airola

Member
NHL and Madden sells consoles to a lot of people. There are a lot of people who are just looking for a certain kind of entertainment and they will use a few hundred dollars/euros from their salary to get that entertainment. Now, NHL makes sense because they might play those games for hundreds of hours. It's not much different for paying expensive season tickets to real life NHL matches. That's what interests them, that's what they'll use their money to.

It might be odd to see someone buy a console for just a couple of 8 hour story based games, but if that's what they want why not buy it if you have the money for it.

Almost everyone hates console "gimmicks" that differentiate systems from one another, so I wouldn't even say that's a system seller anymore.

This legit depresses me though.

Just a few days ago I wondered how well and fondly the modern consoles will be remembered in future by gaming historians. When they are looking at different consoles the comparisons between them will be this sad blur where nothing really stands out to say "yeah, this was PS4 / XBOX One all right!" They all look and feel like each other. Even between generations the consoles seem to be quite like each other. When someone in 2040 looks at past consoles I don't think there will be much to look at when discussing PS3/PS4/PS5/360/One/SeriesX. Maybe on PS3 and 360 they can still talk about the jump to HD but when the differences between the competitors and the next consoles become a thing of looking at slight frame rate and resolution differences. I mean, how much personality these new consoles have that will be remembered by future gaming historians?
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Lol if I can get series X just to play The Darkness 2007 in 30fps and Gears trilogy in 4k ?! Fuck yeah I don't need anything else
 

Ten_Fold

Member
I buy Nintendo consoles because Zelda is my favorite series ever, and everything else makes it well worth the purchase. Now OP I do agree with you somewhat. I brought the PS4 for KH3 (which I hated) also SF5/FF7R (which was alright), but I’m not a fan of the last of us, Horizon, god of war, spiderman, or uncharted, so my ps4’s been sitting since I finished FF7 an was sitting years prior.
 

-Minsc-

Member
Some more casual people will say "oh I don't think there is enough value for me in that box, I'd rather buy clothes or beer" but for me I love the experiences and missing them would bother the shit out of me.
Basically, "Why game when I can work in a woodshop?" Everyone has different intersts. One can easily make the argument that there's no need to buy a new console if the old ones are working just fine. If someone games only two hours a month then I can easily see getting away with older tech.
 

pr0cs

Member
So, not buying a system because you won’t play games on it = not taking gaming very seriously?

I know you're smarter than that.
Nope you clearly don't.
You don't have to, I mean there is nothing wrong with playing madden or fifa yearly, millions of people like you do. Some of us just have more diverse taste than that.
 

dilbag

Member
Honestly it depends on the game, some games are amazing but only really last a week and others last 100s of hours.
 

Arthimura

Member
I bought Wii U for Xenoblade Chronicles X and Breath of the Wild.

No regrets.

I always go Sony + Nintendo and have a great time playing exclusives and whatever multi interests me. Seeing the games i most enjoyed this generation, it was exclusives not available on other platforms, so i think it's completely valid to buy a platform if it has a few games that interests you.
 

Moogle11

Banned
Nope you clearly don't.
You don't have to, I mean there is nothing wrong with playing madden or fifa yearly, millions of people like you do. Some of us just have more diverse taste than that.

Thats just silly. Not owning every platform doesn’t mean someone’s a causal that only plays those type of games. Playstation, Xbox and PC have a ton of variety in their huge library. Nintendo does too, though they obviously lack robust western AAA support.

So other than Nintendo kind of doing their own thing it’s not like gamer that just has a PlayStation or Xbox or PC is lacking access to any genre of games. They just miss out on some exclusive IP, but there aren’t really any genres completely exclusive to those platforms anymore with how many multiplats end up on all three of those.p and how many copycat games there are in every genre.

So it’s more a matter of how much time ome has for gaming and how many games a year they play that dictates how many platforms are worth it. Missing out on a few exclusives doesn't matter if a person isn’t able to keep up with all the games thst it wrest them on the platform(s) they own already.

It has nothing to do with having narrow tastes for most. It’s just many people have busy lives and don’t take their hobbies “seriously” (as you put it) as their hobbies are just fun breaks from the things that really matter in life and it die thing they prioritize and schedule the bulk of their time around. Thus they're drowning in games they’d like to play on whatever platform(s) they already own and don’t have any silly FOMO about the exclusives on platforms they don’t own as they aren’t lacking variety games to play when they have time.
 

pr0cs

Member
So it’s more a matter of how much time ome has for gaming and how many games a year they play that dictates how many platforms are worth it. Missing out on a few exclusives doesn't matter if a person isn’t able to keep up with all the games thst it wrest them on the platform(s) they own already.
And that's my point isn't it. If you are serious you make the time, not because it's a job but because you love it and missing a title would bother you.
For some people they simply don't care to miss a couple of titles, or a whole platform because they don't care for the platform and the titles on it.

For other people though they actually care about being versed in all titles that interest them on all platforms.
Just like any hobby there are levels to the dedication. Some people just want to wet their whistle and play a few select titles yearly.
Others actually care about playing everything. You don't HAVE to play everything, but then you simply are a more casual gamer. Who cares if you are having fun.
 

Psykodad

Banned
Nope you clearly don't.
You don't have to, I mean there is nothing wrong with playing madden or fifa yearly, millions of people like you do. Some of us just have more diverse taste than that.
What makes you think I play those kind of games?

You're making a fool of yourself right now.
 
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Moogle11

Banned
Just like any hobby there are levels to the dedication. Some people just want to wet their whistle and play a few select titles yearly.
Others actually care about playing everything. You don't HAVE to play everything, but then you simply are a more casual gamer. Who cares if you are having fun.

The problem with your statement is the contradiction in the two lines I bolded. You imply there are levels to dedication, but then dumb it down to only two levels. The hardcore who care about playing everything and the casuals who only play a select few titles a year.

That’s just silly as there are tons of levels of dedication to gaming between those two extremes. It also ignores the hardcore MP gamers who are often playing a ton more hours a year than some diehard single player who cares to play everything and are also more skilled gamers.

There’s no superiority to be found in being a “hardcore gamer“ who has to own everything and try to play everything etc. If anything, I’ve found people who are obsessed with any hobby (not just games) to be pretty pathetic people who are shitty friends and family members, who make no meaningful impact on the world. How many games one plays/how much time they spend on them (or what we someone’s obsessive hobby is) isn’t something to thump one’s chest about.
 
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Psykodad

Banned
And that's my point isn't it. If you are serious you make the time, not because it's a job but because you love it and missing a title would bother you.
For some people they simply don't care to miss a couple of titles, or a whole platform because they don't care for the platform and the titles on it.

For other people though they actually care about being versed in all titles that interest them on all platforms.
Just like any hobby there are levels to the dedication. Some people just want to wet their whistle and play a few select titles yearly.
Others actually care about playing everything. You don't HAVE to play everything, but then you simply are a more casual gamer. Who cares if you are having fun.

Being a "gamer" is defined by how commited you are to your hobby.

One can be a hardcore gamer owning just one platform, while another can be a casual owning multiple systems.

What platform(s) you own is entirely up to preferences.
Claiming otherwise is nothing but validating your self-proclaimed gamer status by waving your imaginary e-peen.

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I quoted the wrong person, but since I was referring to you.. Meh..
 
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Fbh

Member
What is there not to get?
People have varying incomes and put different value on stuff.
Seems perfectly reasonable not wanting to spend $300+ on a system just to play 1 or 2 games.

I've never done so. There might have been times where 2 or 3 games are the main reason I buy a system, but I always buy them with the intention to give them more use beyond just those games. I'd definitely never spend hundreds of dollars on a system that I think I'll use to play 1-2 games and then never touch again
 
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