ethomaz
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Yeap the new patch made the game less blurry on consoles.Resolution increase on Xbox with new patch.
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DF: Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - A Huge Improvement Over Last-Gen Consoles
you said it show it is the most powerful hardware when it is objectively isn't .period. ...let's wait maybe some months right now we are talking of games developed on pc and ported on console ok?)
SoloKingRobert
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ethomaz
Banned
The forever Phil wait game.
Ok you wait while I play games on the most powerful console.
again ..I don't know if you are young or new to the launch of a new gen. but never. never. the games released at launch were a sign of something other than optimization of tools or devs preferences. a lots of air....not proof )) let me laugh about it ..can i?))in some months no one will talk anymore about performance and i let you imagine why
bxrz
Member
Your in way too deep on the console wars stuff. Do you get a check from Sony for all this? I hope so
Gudji
Member
Keep playing ON PAPER specs while people with PS5s keep playing on the better hardware.
Not only are you lying but you also don't have a clue of what you're talking about.
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Valued Gamer
Banned
There is definitely something buggy with the XSX CPU environment.
These hitches and CPU stales are common across alot of games including CP.
There has to be an API issue going on.
AMD know how to make Ryzen CPUs, and its an almost identical CPU as the PS, other than some slight changes.
Of note is the fact that this is running in BC mode, and so is only using single threads on the CPU.
I'm gonna wait till it has next gen updates, and I actually have a next gen console or two.
These hitches and CPU stales are common across alot of games including CP.
There has to be an API issue going on.
AMD know how to make Ryzen CPUs, and its an almost identical CPU as the PS, other than some slight changes.
Of note is the fact that this is running in BC mode, and so is only using single threads on the CPU.
I'm gonna wait till it has next gen updates, and I actually have a next gen console or two.
ethomaz
Banned
38 years old... here in GAF since 2006 I believe.
It is fine to believe in the tools magic... just not try to make others believe too.
If you believe what I said is wrong just shows Xbox Series X having a more powerful hardware.
No. I don’t need.
I side with the reality... if it was not show I should never claim it.
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paper specs? I don't know who put these stuff in your head but tell me one case where paper specs didn't perform better than inferior hardware. I'll say it again wait a little bit before launching into stunning comments that could (almost certainly) backfire. the gen started less than 30 days ago hahaha
as I said...in fact you are young in this game
Gudji
Member
Both consoles have hardware advantages over each other, pay attention next time and get over it. PS5 is the better design and IT IS performing better.
And yes LAUNCH GAMES have always shown what consoles are capable of, ALWAYS.
ethomaz
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Gudji
Member
Can't keep up.
It even drops to 43 FPS on the next scene he shows (while driving a black car).
lol the only advantage ps5 have over the xsx are the double perf of the famous ssd.(and as a proof of what I'm talking about we all know they're not ABSOLUTELY performing as such...but in this case I'm sure yes, the word optimization and tools ... will be back in fashion right?))) do not shit for all the buzzwords that are fed to you by press releases. the XSX will inevitably and inevitably end up ahead
Banjo64
cumsessed
Some of you sound like right virgins...
‘hur dur PS5 frames don’t drop by 5% in this scene take the L Xbox noobs’
‘hur dur Xbox has more pedestrians’
Christ on a bike lmao who the fuck cares about this shit expect 13 year olds?
I mean, I care from a technical point of view because it’s interesting. I’ll watch DF but I’m not going to come and start making long arse comments like ‘not a good month for Xbox hue hue hue’.
‘hur dur PS5 frames don’t drop by 5% in this scene take the L Xbox noobs’
‘hur dur Xbox has more pedestrians’
Christ on a bike lmao who the fuck cares about this shit expect 13 year olds?
I mean, I care from a technical point of view because it’s interesting. I’ll watch DF but I’m not going to come and start making long arse comments like ‘not a good month for Xbox hue hue hue’.
Riky
$MSFT
Holy shit
Where have all the people gone on PS5?
dcmk7
Banned
Don't understand that at all.
The PS5 BC is basically handicapped by the PS4 pro but running at 60fps.
XSX should be matching that at the very least. For all intents and purposes the XSX BC is superior than the PS5. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But what is going on with it... should be able to brute force its way to 60fps without kicking up a sweat.
The PS5 BC is basically handicapped by the PS4 pro but running at 60fps.
XSX should be matching that at the very least. For all intents and purposes the XSX BC is superior than the PS5. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But what is going on with it... should be able to brute force its way to 60fps without kicking up a sweat.
hint : check at the average frame rate . they just picked the convenient part there's less than that frame of advantage...with 1/5 of npcs aroundHoly shit
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
That was my main take away. In like for like scenes the PS5 currently performs better.
When the next gen versions arrive with scaled up visuals, this will likely still be the case.
cebri.one
Member
Lol, look at the video, the more it progresses the more the average fps fall on XBSX.
Gudji
Member
PS5 has many hardware advantages:
- Unified memory bandwith (unlike XSX)
- Faster SSD
- Much better I/O
- Higher GPU clock with faster GPU units
And if suspicions are right some sort of unified L3 cache but that is not confirmed yet. Like I said on PAPER XSX sounded much better, it's not though and both consoles will be trading blows during the generation.
The people don't suddenly create a 17 FPS difference.
Or you could watch the video and see that XSX is struggling in that scene, it hardly reaches 60 FPS.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
At 4:03, PS5 grass and plants are static and don't move/sway in wind like Series X and PC.
McCheese
Member
Game?
The forever waiting game for the magical tools?
Remember how last gen they kept going on about how Microsoft had the power of the cloud, how can a PS4 compete with a data center etc and all they ended up with was that awful crackdown game.
The xbox series x is a great machine but there is no evidence these performance issues can be resolved, and even if they can I doubt it would retroactively fix these older games.
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
Stuttering isn't exclusive to XsX. I have experienced it, to rather extreme degrees, in both Fenyx Rising and Godfall on my PS5. Both of these games received patches a few days ago that eliminated the issues completely, thankfully.
If I had to guess, stuttering/hitches on both XsX and PS5 are coming from something deep in the OS side of things that just needs to be ironed out with updates. I could be totally wrong though.
Regardless, I really can't wait to see what the real NG version of this game looks like. If they can come close to what I see on my 3080 PC, then people are going to be very happy, even if it comes at 30fps cost.
Riky
$MSFT
the ps5 have basically no npcs..be serious man
bxrz
Member
You like crapgamer and jaydubcity. Its a bad look
again who told you that have better i / o? cerny? (really??) or who ?? the XSX have more bw better decompressors and better assets loading managment for what we know. but let it die here .,..I'll not recall what is simply there....there one hw that is more powerful let's wait some months
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Gudji
Member
Now you're just trolling.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Funny how no PS5 fan warriors ever upload snapshots of PS5 tanking in FPS.
PS5 drops to low forties as well, just seems to be the dynamic nature of the game.
For anyone on the fence and reading all these 2077 threads for info, watch out for all the rhetoric. Best to watch these videos yourself and notice any differences with your own two eyes then rely on warriors cherry picking only certain parts of the game.
no I'm not
again a part from cerny (that never compared anything) ..from who you did heard ps5 have BETTER i/o? honest question . ....it is great ? yes it is..better ...we will seeas I said....average frame rate is the key ...are just fanboys let them have fun. as everyone said (who covered the comparation) the best version to play the game on console is XSX in quality mode
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oldergamer
Member
gonna disagree with DF on this one. Ps5 seems to have more bugs and lacks in crowd and traffic density. So yeah it maintains 60fps a little better, but the city feels lifeless. There seems to be less texture streaming issues. I think i would rather play the xbox sx version at 60 even with occasional dips.
Can't keep up.
And this does not last for a second or two. It's not a cherry picked moment.
It's sustained throughout the whole scene. XSX is simply behind performance wise compared to PS5.
Btw at this point the situation about this game is pretty much clear, there's not much more to add and discuss.
PS5 does perfectly what CDProject has allowed the system to do, push to 60fps the PS4 Pro game.
A meaningful comparison between XSX and PS5 is not possible even in performance mode because one version performs better but it is forced to use slightly lower settings.
Overall the two things should even out if PS5 could use the slightly higher settings? It's up to CDProject to fix things.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
Everybody is inside playing their PS5s on the PS5 version.
with 1/5 of npcs density it have less drops you are right is very very clear to everyone
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Armorian
Banned
30fpsimagine that in 2020.
On consoles? It's the norm.
So called 4K consoles will only be "4K" (dynamic probably) in quality/high resolution modes and 30 FPS.
I love that 60 modes are becoming the norm and I will probably keep my 1080p TV form them when I buy PS5 once interesting games are there
you mean like the 2020 goty tlou2? imagine that30fps
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thelastword
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So better performance on PS5 as usual, higher average resolution too. Just to be clear on something, this is not a BC issue that PS5 does not have a quality mode... Remember CDPR and their performance mode on Xbonex which never made it to PRO? This is CDPR not putting the same effort into the PS version. Quality mode on Series X and none on PS5. Shakes head.
Regardless, even in PS5's single mode it shows it's raw power over Series X.... About 20fps ahead in cases at an average higher resolution. CDPR has the marketing with MS, they always try to gimp PS one way or another. Remember Witcher 3? Initially it had a setting higher on Xbone over PS4 and the XBONE version performed better, a weaker console by 40% with worse memory. This CDPR for you, just doing what they do, but PS5 is just too fast this time. Excellent performance in its single mode. When they patch in the quality mode on PS5, it will be faster than Xbox too, if they don't gimp it of course...
Regardless, even in PS5's single mode it shows it's raw power over Series X.... About 20fps ahead in cases at an average higher resolution. CDPR has the marketing with MS, they always try to gimp PS one way or another. Remember Witcher 3? Initially it had a setting higher on Xbone over PS4 and the XBONE version performed better, a weaker console by 40% with worse memory. This CDPR for you, just doing what they do, but PS5 is just too fast this time. Excellent performance in its single mode. When they patch in the quality mode on PS5, it will be faster than Xbox too, if they don't gimp it of course...
Inviusx
Member
Yeah I know, absolute trash.
Riky
$MSFT
Hate to be the one to break this to you but the performance mode after the latest patch has a higher resolution on XSX as per NXgamer and VG tech found that the PS5 version can drop to 900p and hit 41fps
People should just ask them what's the reason behind no higher quality settings on PS5 and if it will be patched.
I don't know if this is because of a marketing deal with MS or them simply priviledging Xbox during development, or if it's because using PS5 BC they aren't allowed to introduce modes that are not available at least on the PS4 Pro. It's an aspect they should clarify.
He's not wrong. All three stated that PS5 is the best performing version.
XSX isn't even proper 60fps mode, it's more a 50fps mode. It's useless to deny facts or cherry picks things.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
PS5 also has less NPCs, and videos who grass doesn't even sway in the wind like Series X and PC.Hate to be the one to break this to you but the performance mode after the latest patch has a higher resolution on XSX as per NXgamer and VG tech found that the PS5 version can drop to 900p and hit 41fps
Game assets and physics had to be tanked for PS5 to achieve FPS.