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Returnal falls to #15 in Week 2 | UK Boxed Charts

DeceptiveAlarm

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even at 60 I don't think it would have changed much. I am enjoying it, but this is totally a niche title at best.
Thats how I feel. I wanted to buy it because I have a ps5 and nothing to play. I know though it is a title I will play for a hour or two and drop. It's niche and not my niche.
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
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Papacheeks

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Doesn't tell the whole story obviously but....not good....


Well when there's no stock of Physical to buy this happens. No one is talking about the nation wide absence of physical. Like everyone I know who Preordered got their game last week instead of on release. No retailer in my town or in the next town which is Syracuse or Rochester, or Buffalo had any.

SO to me there was a error or Sony undershipped based on preorders?
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Niche genre.
A-AA level content.
AAA+ "new gen" price.

Go figure.

You have no clue wtf your talking about. Game's budget was in the Millions. But made by a small studio, sound design is going to get some awards for sure. Game is brilliant. Never played a game to addictively in a long time.

It is Niche in the style of game it is. But saying this is not a AAA game in it's presentation or content is really reaching. Shows how little you know about game asset creation.
 
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Haggard

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You have no clue wtf your talking about. Game's budget was in the Millions. But made by a small studio, sound design is going to get some awards for sure. Game is brilliant. Never played a game to addictively in a long time.
Blablabla the studio has 80 employees and worked on the game for <3 years.
A studio like Santa Monica has 200-250 and worked on GoW for 5....

The budgets are incomparable.
It´s not an Indi game, but it`s far from AAA.....
 
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Papacheeks

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Blablabla the studio has 80 employees and worked on the game for <3 years.
A studio like Santa Monic has 250 and worked on GoW for 5....

Cold hard numbers.

Days gone was made with mostly 80 people until end ramp up where they expanded to 120-130.

Batman Arkham asylum was made by 80 people back in 2009.

Studio size can be small, and still have a moderate budget. This game cost 40-60 Million to make if not more if you add in all the promotional material and any third party company that did any of the mixing/cutscenes.
 

Haggard

Banned
Days gone was made with mostly 80 people until end ramp up where they expanded to 120-130.

Batman Arkham asylum was made by 80 people back in 2009.

Studio size can be small, and still have a moderate budget. This game cost 40-60 Million to make if not more if you add in all the promotional material and any third party company that did any of the mixing/cutscenes.
By todays (budget)-standards Returnal is not AAA but still costs more than 95% of all actual AAAs on the market.
That´s a simple fact....

One might call that crazy, but that`s the state of the industry, where some games cost more to make than most hollywood movies.
 
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bxrz

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The real story of the UK Charts is 80% of RE8's sales were on Playstation. 50% on PS5, 30% on PS4, 20% on Xbox.
I’d say thats expected. Multiple exclusive demos, Sony execs all in the showcase and UK in general is PS dominant. They marketed the hell out of RE8
 

Papacheeks

Banned
By todays (budget)-standards Returnal is not AAA but still costs more than 95% of all actual AAAs on the market.
That´s a simple fact....

Not every game will be 100 Million in budget. RATCHET was made with really very little to no mo-cap is all hand animated. And was made in like 3-4 years. While making another title at the same time. #Employee's does not always = games budget.

That can go else where. Returnal though not as expensive to make as others, still is in the AAA budget because there is some mo-cap, actress scans, voice over work. Also this game from my understanding has been in the works longer than 3 years.

It is up to Sony and the developer on what they feel they want to price the game at. Do I think this should have been $60? Yes.

Do I think this is possibly a GOTY contender? 100% yes.

There's people that have 30-40 hours into this game. There's a lot of content to keep playing after the first time you see credits. The story doesn't stop there. Has a ton of replayability.
 

xrnzaaas

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That's a pretty much expect drop. People excited for the game preordered it or bought it at launch. The rest are either not interested or waiting for inevitable big price drop.
 
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Bodomism

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Nice to see when a new great budget game is performing really well against AAA games.

Pokemon Snap deserves all of those sales and performing better than Monster Hunter Rise.
 

Rolla

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Context



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Debuted at #1 in Germany etc etc. In short, Playstation is a global brand and Returnal will hit a million sold in due course. I'm not an analyst by any measure but using one region in Europe to suggest the game has failed. After a week on the market... While side stepping the sales data from a number of regions seems a little premature at best.
 
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Bodomism

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Context



Australia
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Debuted at #1 in Germany etc etc. In short, Playstation is a global brand and Returnal will hit a million sold in due course. I'm not an analyst by any measure but using one region in Europe to suggest the game has failed. After a week on the market... While side stepping the sales data from a number of regions seems a little premature at best.

Pokemon Snap is the number 1 in Germany not Returnal.
 

Derift

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its funny the people in these comments want to ignore that this game was pretty hard to find... there was a supply constraint... but whatever lol people really want returnal to fail unfortunatly for those people its not failing
 

Bodomism

Banned
And how big is Pokemon as a brand and established IP?

For returnal to be #2, let alone in top 5-10 is a good sign.
Context is really important here.
-Spin off Pokemon game isn't the same tier as mainline Pokemon game in sales.
-UK is the weakest market for Nintendo amongst top 6 gaming markets and yet Snap outsold it 3 to 1 in a launch week. It would be much bigger in other countries like US, Japan, France, and Germany.
-Leg is also an important metric to measure the sales as you can see Snap only down 63% after a huge launch while Returnal down 84% indicating words of mouth isn't good as Snap.
 

SLB1904

Banned
Context is really important here.
-Spin off Pokemon game isn't the same tier as mainline Pokemon game in sales.
-UK is the weakest market for Nintendo amongst top 6 gaming markets and yet Snap outsold it 3 to 1 in a launch week. It would be much bigger in other countries like US, Japan, France, and Germany.
-Leg is also an important metric to measure the sales as you can see Snap only down 63% after a huge launch while Returnal down 84% indicating words of mouth isn't good as Snap.
What are you talking about?
UK isnt the weakest market for Nintendo at all it never was. Other than the wii u disaster

And how many people bought snap thinking that's actually a real game?
Bomba
 
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Derift

Member
Context is really important here.
-Spin off Pokemon game isn't the same tier as mainline Pokemon game in sales.
-UK is the weakest market for Nintendo amongst top 6 gaming markets and yet Snap outsold it 3 to 1 in a launch week. It would be much bigger in other countries like US, Japan, France, and Germany.
-Leg is also an important metric to measure the sales as you can see Snap only down 63% after a huge launch while Returnal down 84% indicating words of mouth isn't good as Snap.
theres alot more nintendo switches in the wild.... and pokemon side games will always sell well.... i think your underestimating how big the pokemon community is
 
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