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Sony has acquired Bluepoint

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I know everyone here is sick of console warring, but these acquistions wouldn't have happened if MS didnt buy Bethesda. After spending an entire generation closing down 4 studios, and buying just one new studio in Insomniac, Sony has bought 4 studios (housemarque, Nixxes, Firesprite and BP) in a matter of months.

Competition is good. I'd argue that MS doesn't go out and acquire Playground Games, Ninja Theory and Obsidian if Sony first party wasnt so goddamn successful last gen. They were pretty much forced to respond, and I feel Sony was forced to act as well.

We don't need all the big companies buying up all the smaller studios, but there is no denying that healthy competition between two industry giants is good for the gaming industry as whole. Studios like BP, Housemarque, Ninja Theory and Obsidian struggle to get big money from third party devs and thats exactly where first party support is needed.

Keep the pressure up on your favorite company. Dont let them get complacent and good things will follow. Taking pot shots at their competition is fun, but criticism of your favorite company can be quite productive.
 

Evilms

Banned
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So they FINALLY announce it officially after the leaked image back in...August, was it? :pie_roffles:

Anyhow, this is a pretty good get for them. Bluepoint are very good at remakes of existing properties, and now with some good funding and support from other teams they could get the guidance to make a new IP or two.

Sony's been on a bit of a rush with these of late; FireSprite, Nixxes, now Bluepoint. Likely Jade Raymond's studio in the near future, too. Curious to see who Microsoft ends up going for. The important part is these teams being acquired, WANT to be acquired and are going where they feel is best for them, and we should ALWAYS be respectful & mindful of that first and foremost 👍
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Not trying to be an ass, I love Sony and Demon's Souls, not starting a war ...

But isn't 1.4 mil over a year a little low when games like MK11 sell like 2mil in the first week or something?
 

reksveks

Member
I know everyone here is sick of console warring, but these acquistions wouldn't have happened if MS didnt buy Bethesda. After spending an entire generation closing down 4 studios, and buying just one new studio in Insomniac, Sony has bought 4 studios (housemarque, Nixxes, Firesprite and BP) in a matter of months.

Competition is good. I'd argue that MS doesn't go out and acquire Playground Games, Ninja Theory and Obsidian if Sony first party wasnt so goddamn successful last gen. They were pretty much forced to respond, and I feel Sony was forced to act as well.

We don't need all the big companies buying up all the smaller studios, but there is no denying that healthy competition between two industry giants is good for the gaming industry as whole. Studios like BP, Housemarque, Ninja Theory and Obsidian struggle to get big money from third party devs and thats exactly where first party support is needed.

Keep the pressure up on your favorite company. Dont let them get complacent and good things will follow. Taking pot shots at their competition is fun, but criticism of your favorite company can be quite productive.
Kinda aligns with https://www.pcgamer.com/phil-spencer-says-studio-acquisitions-are-good-for-the-videogame-industry/

Its all about the balance.
 
I know everyone here is sick of console warring, but these acquistions wouldn't have happened if MS didnt buy Bethesda. After spending an entire generation closing down 4 studios, and buying just one new studio in Insomniac, Sony has bought 4 studios (housemarque, Nixxes, Firesprite and BP) in a matter of months.

Competition is good. I'd argue that MS doesn't go out and acquire Playground Games, Ninja Theory and Obsidian if Sony first party wasnt so goddamn successful last gen. They were pretty much forced to respond, and I feel Sony was forced to act as well.

We don't need all the big companies buying up all the smaller studios, but there is no denying that healthy competition between two industry giants is good for the gaming industry as whole. Studios like BP, Housemarque, Ninja Theory and Obsidian struggle to get big money from third party devs and thats exactly where first party support is needed.

Keep the pressure up on your favorite company. Dont let them get complacent and good things will follow. Taking pot shots at their competition is fun, but criticism of your favorite company can be quite productive.
So encourage more acquisitions? I'm sorry, but no. Look, I'll acknowledge and pay respects for one when it's actually officiated and legit, but I'm not going to egg on more acquisitions in the supposed name of fostering competition.

Because IMO you don't NEED to acquire studios to be competitive, it's just one of the methods available to platform holders and larger corporate entities. If the ways I like to encourage competition by proxy end un resulting in an acquisition, then hey, it is what it is. But I'm not gonna jump the gun and egg them on under the guise of wanting more competition.
 

AlexxKidd

Member
So, Hulst and Ryan still wants to talk that they are not in arms race and they prefer organic growth?

Because if answer is yes I just need to know to believe exact opposite of what they are talking in future...

But congratz to the team. I'm interested what they will do when not making remakes...

Adding a studio who does mostly PlayStation exclusives anyway seems pretty organic to me.
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
Not trying to be an ass, I love Sony and Demon's Souls, not starting a war ...

But isn't 1.4 mil over a year a little low when games like MK11 sell like 2mil in the first week or something?

It was a full on remake of a game that came out years ago on older hardware in a niche genre (soulsborne) that while is popular in places like here, isn't exactly mainstream (i don't think, i may be wrong). Those are fantastic numbers, IMO
 

yurinka

Member
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Why?

Edit: Never mind I get it now, lol, Sony JP just sitting there by themselves in the corner with a whistle waiting.........
Japan Studio was renamed to Team Asobi after they separated its XDEV Japanese team to be now under XDEV, and after merging their internal Japan Studio teams into one of them (Team Asobi).

They are also rumored to acquire ARC System Works and to create a brand new Japanese studios. And well, if they continue acquiring I assume now Kojipro is one of the biggest candidates since Death Stranding became the best selling Kojima game ever, got great reviews and many awards.


Why?

Edit: Never mind I get it now, lol, Sony JP just sitting there by themselves in the corner with a whistle waiting.........
He's joking because the Sony JP twitter account accidentally leaked the Bluepoint acquisition while ago.
 
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Not trying to be an ass, I love Sony and Demon's Souls, not starting a war ...

But isn't 1.4 mil over a year a little low when games like MK11 sell like 2mil in the first week or something?
They're good, even great, numbers if the game's budget was modest. Which for DS Remake, most likely was as most of the game was made for them by From over a decade ago. Remakes tend to cost more than remasters but they're still a lot more affordable in costs compared to completely brand-new AAA games.

An exception to this seems to be FFVII Remake but that's because they've completely modernized the game engine, aspects of the design, combat, and added a ton of additional content not in the original release (i.e they're taking segments from the old game and spanning them into their own full games, basically).
 
Never saw this coming, I'm shook :messenger_hushed:

In other news... isn't that the shirt Herman was wearing in a past PS5 showcase?!?! Was that filmed months and months ago 🤔
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
So encourage more acquisitions? I'm sorry, but no. Look, I'll acknowledge and pay respects for one when it's actually officiated and legit, but I'm not going to egg on more acquisitions in the supposed name of fostering competition.

Because IMO you don't NEED to acquire studios to be competitive, it's just one of the methods available to platform holders and larger corporate entities. If the ways I like to encourage competition by proxy end un resulting in an acquisition, then hey, it is what it is. But I'm not gonna jump the gun and egg them on under the guise of wanting more competition.
I dont neccessarily disagree. I think fostering studios and then acquiring them like Sony did with housemarquee and BP, and MS with playground games and Obsidian is the best way to go about doing this. Sony buying SE or MS buying Zenimax is probably more monopolistic, but at the end of the day these kind of big acquisitions happen all the time in the industry. Watching Ford vs Ferrari, I found out that Ferrari was bought out by Fiat in the 60s. Ferrari. It is what is.

I'd rather Sony and MS grow their studios organically by hiring more devs, creating more internal teams, but as a fan of BP and PS collaborations, Id like to see them continue to work on PS IPs and remakes. And I wont lie, Playground Games' Fable reboot is probably my most anticipated MS first party game. I know MS has 343 and Coalition but I dont trust either team to do a Fable game justice. At the very least, PG will give us a gorgeous looking open world. If MS had allowed them to go third party like Bungie, who knows what kind of GaaS game a third party publisher might force them to make.

You only have to look at how third parties have treated talented devs recently. Bungie forced to slave away on Destiny DLC for years by Activision. Every single one of the 15 or so studios at Acitivion are now forced to work on CoD games. Every single one. It was announced by Activision as if thats a good thing. CD was forced to make a soulless Avengers game after the fantastic Rise of Tomb Raider. Sony let Kojima finally make something other than MGS sequels Konami forced him to make for 30 years.

First party publishers can definitely help studios raise the bar. There is a reason why 7 out of the last 10 GOTY winners are first party titles.
 

Saber

Gold Member
Well, about time it finally comes to be official. I'm happy for them.

Unfortunatelly this will be yet another reason for Gaf retards to spam countless brain damaging Bloodborne rumor threads.
 
Not trying to be an ass, I love Sony and Demon's Souls, not starting a war ...

But isn't 1.4 mil over a year a little low when games like MK11 sell like 2mil in the first week or something?

Yeah MK isn't the type of franchise you should be comparing this too.

It's a remake of a PS3 title that wasn't even expected to hit a million back in its day. 1.4 is fine. Especially at $70
 
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MiguelItUp

Member
Pretty sure they knew this was happening when that "accident" happened, haha. But at least they've finally confirmed it!

But I'll be honest, they're great at what they do, however I'm slightly hesitant on the idea of a new IP.
 

yurinka

Member
Let's hope they now grow enough to have 2 teams working at the same time: one in a remake (I want MGS1, Uncharted 1 and GoW1) and another one in a new game (good candidates would be Syphon Filter reboot if Bend is busy, Uncharted spin-off if ND and Bend are busy, The Order 2, new Wipeout if Firesprite/Fabrik are busy, new IP).

Not trying to be an ass, I love Sony and Demon's Souls, not starting a war ...

But isn't 1.4 mil over a year a little low when games like MK11 sell like 2mil in the first week or something?
Demon's Souls remake is a launch game exclusive for a single console (so a console with a 0 units userbase before that game), in the middle of a global pandemic. It's also a remake of an old niche game nobody bought.

MK11 is a game released in PlayStation 4, Xbox One, PlayStation 5, Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X and Series S, Microsoft Windows, Google Stadia (so platforms with an userbase of maybe over 200 million users before its release) not released during a pandemic, sequel of a game that sold over 10 million units (this number is from years ago, must be way higher now). MK is also the best selling series of the 1vs1 fighting genre.

PS5 sold 10M+ units, so 1.4M means somewhere slightly under ~14% of its owners bought this game. Which for a remake of a game nobody bought is awesome news, and a higher % of what MK11 achieved comparing its sales to the userbase of the platforms where it has been released.
 
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Fbh

Member
It's nice to see it finally confirmed .

And I'm glad they are apparently working on an original game. As cool as their tech is, I find 1:1 remakes kinda boring.
 

KaiserBecks

Member
It was a full on remake of a game that came out years ago on older hardware in a niche genre (soulsborne) that while is popular in places like here, isn't exactly mainstream (i don't think, i may be wrong). Those are fantastic numbers, IMO

It's a full on remake of a cult classic that created this niche genre. I think given the install base those are fantastic numbers, but let's not downplay the significance of the original Demon's Souls in order to make the remake look more successful shall we?
 
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