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TheAssist

Member
Obviously I see that this is a big deal, however I dont see why this is such an apocalyptical event for so many people here.

As a game pass owner I am happy I can finally play the CoD campaigns, because I wasnt willing to pay for those games just to play a 4 hours campaign. But I'm still happy to play all my Sony exclusive stuff, which I also like a lot. So much happiness to go around. If anything it becomes more and more clear to me that owning two consoles or a a console and a PC will be as affordable like never before.
I mean a PS5 and a XSX set you back 900 bucks. Calculate that over a lifespan of about 7 years, than thats 10 bucks a month plus lets say 15 bucks for each subscription service. Thats 40 bucks a months for all Sony and MS games plus a lot of 3rd party stuff. More than you could ever play in your life. You can also subscribe to one service for 6 months and then for the other another 6 months or whatever share makes sense to you, so it only adds up to 25 bucks a month for most of what gaming has to offer.

I mean....thats cool right? A few multi billion dollar companies fighting for your attention. I just hope the business models make sense. I dont want less developers and less good games. As long as we have good hardware and good software and everyone can make a living from making and publishing games, its all good. Doesnt really matter whats the branding on it.
I do hope Sony comes out of this with force as well. I just have so much nostalgic feeling with them. To me its a nice comfy feel good brand. So naturally I want them alive and well. But its cool if MS is going strong as well. Games are cool these days.

Maybe Nintendo joins the ranks in 10 years or so as well.
 
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Sony games are the Swan Song of video games, not just the last of us , just do what I do , once you beat all 3rd party titles as well as pc or xbox exclusives , in the end of generation you left with nothing but sony's exclusives , believe me , there's no better way to play all the games than following this formula , Nintendo games to me are just for filling a space or a way to have memorable fun moments with kids and families.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Isnt that all Blizzard? Those dont really matter to Playstation. Does Activision not have a heavy hitter besides COD?

I might have the Hot take that this wont matter.
Don't matter? Lots of people played Overwatch and Diablo III on their PS4s, myself included.

And if MS manages to revive Warcraft and Starcraft... well, that would be a problem for Sony.
 

Ogbert

Member
Last year they only had two premium exclusives. Both at the tail end of the year.

This year they have announced ZERO games until Starfield in November. Maybe Redfall in Summer but we havent seen a single screenshot from it.

In 2023, they will have CoD in November, Forza in October, and Hellblade 2 in there somewhere. Avowed, Everwild, Fable, Perfect Dark and State Of Decay are probably 2024 games. That along with CoD will be the first year they will have premium day one content all year around, but the year after that? One CoD game is the only guarantee. Every other team has taken 5-6 years to make their games and will take just as long to make the sequels. Note that Sony themselves are going to struggle with this as proven by the fact that they have no next gen first party games coming out this year and only 1 next year. So they definitely need to go all in asap.

I think it's important to note that this acquisition essentially gets them a big November title every year. But thats just one game. One giant megaton of a game, but still one game. They still need first party to deliver on the 'all year round' promise which is something they have mightily struggled with since they started acquisitions in 2017.

Also, Netflix just raised their subscription prices to $20. In a few years, expect Gamepass to be around that. Costs are always passed down to customers.
Agree.

For what it’s worth, I think they will completely drop the annual cycle for CoD. I imagine they will turn it into their Destiny. One huge online world that they supplement and augment throughout the year with smaller releases. I expect Warzone will stay multiplat.

I’m still sticking with Sony, but there’s no way this isn’t an absolute megaton.
 

MonarchJT

Banned
Man it's always entertaining see how some people can completely lose any kind of rationality for news like this. Europe now could become 50/50 for such acquisition? Are you serious 😂
if mainline COD will go exclusive ...Sony will lose good part of their console sales in eu and USA....because fifa you know you can play it anywhere. COD move console and is the unconditionally no.1 in playstation games sales. In west people buy console for COD GTA and FIFA not for demons souls or final fantasy
 
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The situation of triple-A single player fps games on Playstation is pretty grim.

MS has Doom, Wolfenstein, Halo, Arkane studios and now CoD. Also they have Elite controller.

Dualsense is such an awesome controller that I really would like to play fps games with it. But because of the lack of back paddles I haven't played Doom Eternal with the next gen patch.
 
I don't see how Sony and other publishers will be able to maintain $70 with this acquisition and the price of gamepass. Spartacus will have to directly compete to remain relevant in this market. Before this deal I would have agreed with you but this changes the landscape way too much.

It's such a megaton that the optics of cod during Christmas will be pay $70 on ps or get gamepass. It's going to be a blood bath. Sony really can't afford what Microsoft is doing.

I just turned 40 on Saturday and I've never felt such a seismic shift in the industry. Google, Netflix, and amazon entering the fraught? Streaming isn't there yet and it was laughable to think Google would shake the industry up.

Sony splitting from Nintendo to form their own video game division? No one could have foreseen what would happen 25 years down the line.

This? This is catostraphic for ps ecosystem and their short term plans.

And yet there’s no evidence at all about Sony not being competitive

They are, after all, in first place and continue to sell far more first party games than Microsoft

No doubt Sony will bolster their sub service, but $70 gsmes aren’t going away nor should they

If you want to live in the glory land of copy and paste CoD every year, maybe sub services are your thing

For me, they are not, and I’m willing to support the hobby for genuine premium content
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Not sure what you mean. MS has been putting out games as often (or more) than Sony.
What I mean is that they take a generally hands-off approach to their studios, which is great in some ways, but it also means that none of these studios give a shit about what the others are doing and and no one is looking at what the lineup needs overall.

So they literally have like six RPGs in development right now, and three studios responsible for various Fallout titles, and no Fallout. Obsidian is working on Outer Worlds 2 despite the fact that the entire pitch for Outer Worlds 1 was that it was kinda-Fallout from the people who made that Fallout game people like. There's absolutely no effort to look at the big picture, leverage their IP, or plug holes in their lineup.
 
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Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Isnt that all Blizzard? Those dont really matter to Playstation. Does Activision not have a heavy hitter besides COD?

I might have the Hot take that this wont matter.
no youre right. if we're keeping it real, this is massive because of COD. Activisions stock went up mainly because of mobile gaming (other than COD)
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
We must hold fast!

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MonarchJT

Banned
And yet there’s no evidence at all about Sony not being competitive

They are, after all, in first place and continue to sell far more first party games than Microsoft

No doubt Sony will bolster their sub service, but $70 gsmes aren’t going away nor should they

If you want to live in the glory land of copy and paste CoD every year, maybe sub services are your thing

For me, they are not, and I’m willing to support the hobby for genuine premium content
the tide are changing James let it go and go with the flow 😉
 
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Ogbert

Member
Isnt that all Blizzard? Those dont really matter to Playstation. Does Activision not have a heavy hitter besides COD?

I might have the Hot take that this wont matter.
Funnily enough, Diablo 4 was the kick in the bollocks for me. I categorically have to buy a Series X now (PC aside).

Intrigued to see what they do with WoW. Potential to start working on WoW 2, playable on consoles? Plus Warcraft 4 could finally make an appearance.
 

eNT1TY

Member
Ah good ole Sony the perennial under-dog even when they are the current and former market leaders. Being the victim pays...
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Agree.

For what it’s worth, I think they will completely drop the annual cycle for CoD. I imagine they will turn it into their Destiny. One huge online world that they supplement and augment throughout the year with smaller releases. I expect Warzone will stay multiplat.

I’m still sticking with Sony, but there’s no way this isn’t an absolute megaton.
I think putting CoD on gamepass is already going to destroy its day one revenues which are literally half a billion even for the worst selling CODs. Even last year, CoD was the best selling game followed at number 3 by last year's CoD. COD still generates around $2 billion a year outside of warzone. Destiny's model is chump change compared to that.

This is definitely a massive deal. It wont affect the hardcore because the hardcore were never into COD. Half of this forum laughed at me recently because i said this years cod was actually good. But this will have ramifications beyond the hardcore. They will definitely lose a sizeable gaming audience. heads will roll at Sony. No idea if Jimbo gets the boot, but I suspect new blood will be brought in somewhere. Maybe acquisitions, or just new fresh blood in the leadership. Sony cannot compete with this and might want to rethink their strategy like Apple did back in the day. Focus on products. On quality. And give people something different. They already do this. They just need to double down and continue to develop new IPs.

I saw a Steve Jobs clip criticizing Microsoft floating around twitter that i wont post here because it might be console warring, but it's interesting to see the parallels. Apple knew they were done. That they couldnt compete with the juggernaut that was Microsoft and went and did they own thing. Created their own walled garden. Developed exclusive products and completely ditched Windows. I dont know if the current Sony leadership has a Steve Jobs there. Their CEO just signed a deal with MS to use azure. Signing a deal with your competition makes no sense but what do I know. Their PS CEO keeps putting his games on Windows, their rival MS's platform.

I just dont know if the current Sony leadership gets it. Nintendo is far more like Steve Job's Apple than Sony right now.
 
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Isnt that all Blizzard? Those dont really matter to Playstation. Does Activision not have a heavy hitter besides COD?

I might have the Hot take that this wont matter.

It's not really COD that i'm bothered about. If this consolidation ended with them then Sony would be fine. It's just one franchise albiet a massive one

But $70 fucking billion lol. They've skipped the pecking order and just went for the most expensive one. Who else have they got their eye on? EA? Ubisoft? Wouldn't suprise me if they do get the Warner Bros studios next given all the rumours surrounding them, and get exclusive video game rights to DC.
 
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ChiefDada

Gold Member
Ok I'm officially calling it - Sony/Nintendo merger towards the end of this generation. Don't ask how, I'm just saying this is the only way both of these companies move forward if they hope to have a chance of continuing their closed ecosystem/premium gaming model for household and handheld gaming in the long-term.

Even if it was financially feasible for Sony to purchase Take Two, it's not enough.
 
Also, Netflix just raised their subscription prices to $20. In a few years, expect Gamepass to be around that. Costs are always passed down to customers.
Netflix raised prices to $20, yet they have over 200 million subscribers and "only" spent $17 billion on content in 2021.

The math just really is hard to make sense of considering Microsoft just paid over 4 years of Netflix content costs on a single acquisition, and that doesn't even include the fact that they still have to pay the money to actually make the games.
 

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
MS has basically decided to buy the AAA market which was previously dominated by Sony.

I don't see how this can be seen as anything other than a catastrophic disaster for Sony.

Sure, they will live on but they will never dominate another console cycle.

It sucks because MS is basically buying this win.
 

KAL2006

Banned
As a PlayStation fan it was easy to ignore Halo, Gears and Forza.

But now
Diablo 4
Call of Duty
World of Warcraft 2?
StarCraft Ghost?
COD
Crash Bandicoot 5
Spyro 4
Tony Hawk's
Fallout 5
Elder Scrolls
Starfield
Doom
Dishonored
Fable

Now I have to be a multi console game owner. I'm hoping Sony really so port games to PC then I might consider going Series X and PC (for Sony exclusives).
 

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
Ok I'm officially calling it - Sony/Nintendo merger towards the end of this generation. Don't ask how, I'm just saying this is the only way both of these companies move forward if they hope to have a chance of continuing their closed ecosystem/premium gaming model for household and handheld gaming in the long-term.

Even if it was financially feasible for Sony to purchase Take Two, it's not enough.
What are you even talking about? The only thing Nintendo has even lost from this is a couple old ports that didn't sell much from Bethesda. They don't even get COD games. This has next to no effect on them.
 
I think putting CoD on gamepass is already going to destroy its day one revenues which are literally half a billion even for the worst selling CODs. Even last year, CoD was the best selling game followed at number 3 by last year's CoD. COD still generates around $2 billion a year outside of warzone. Destiny's model is chump change compared to that.

This is definitely a massive deal. It wont affect the hardcore because the hardcore were never into COD. Half of this forum laughed at me recently because i said this years cod was actually good. But this will have ramifications beyond the hardcore. They will definitely lose a sizeable gaming audience. heads will roll at Sony. No idea if Jimbo gets the boot, but I suspect new blood will be brought in somewhere. Maybe acquisitions, or just new fresh blood in the leadership. Sony cannot compete with this and might want to rethink their strategy like Apple did back in the day. Focus on products. On quality. And give people something different. They already do this. They just need to double down and continue to develop new IPs.

I saw a Steve Jobs clip criticizing Microsoft floating around twitter that i wont post here because it might be console warring, but it's interesting to see the parallels. Apple knew they were done. That they couldnt compete with the juggernaut that was Microsoft and went and did they own thing. Created their own walled garden. Developed exclusive products and completely ditched Windows. I dont know if the current Sony leadership has a Steve Jobs there. Their CEO just signed a deal with MS to use azure. Signing a deal with your competition makes no sense but what do I know. Their PS CEO keeps putting his games on Windows, their rival MS's platform.

I just dont know if the current Sony leadership gets it. Nintendo is far more like Steve Job's Apple than Sony right now.

What do you want Sony to do that they aren’t already doing?

Jimbo does not have a blank check
 

MonarchJT

Banned
I think putting CoD on gamepass is already going to destroy its day one revenues which are literally half a billion even for the worst selling CODs. Even last year, CoD was the best selling game followed at number 3 by last year's CoD. COD still generates around $2 billion a year outside of warzone. Destiny's model is chump change compared to that.

This is definitely a massive deal. It wont affect the hardcore because the hardcore were never into COD. Half of this forum laughed at me recently because i said this years cod was actually good. But this will have ramifications beyond the hardcore. They will definitely lose a sizeable gaming audience. heads will roll at Sony. No idea if Jimbo gets the boot, but I suspect new blood will be brought in somewhere. Maybe acquisitions, or just new fresh blood in the leadership. Sony cannot compete with this and might want to rethink their strategy like Apple did back in the day. Focus on products. On quality. And give people something different. They already do this. They just need to double down and continue to develop new IPs.

I saw a Steve Jobs clip criticizing Microsoft floating around twitter that i wont post here because it might be console warring, but it's interesting to see the parallels. Apple knew they were done. That they couldnt compete with the juggernaut that was Microsoft and went and did they own thing. Created their own walled garden. Developed exclusive products and completely ditched Windows. I dont know if the current Sony leadership has a Steve Jobs there. Their CEO just signed a deal with MS to use azure. Signing a deal with your competition makes no sense but what do I know. Their PS CEO keeps putting his games on Windows, their rival MS's platform.

I just dont know if the current Sony leadership gets it. Nintendo is far more like Steve Job's Apple than Sony right now.
Did you read also about when in '97 Jobs admitted that Ms saved Apple from bankruptcy ..because it was one of the first thing Jobs said as apple ceo
 
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Zeroing

Banned
I still remember the times of “MS are the underdog” and “competition is good” or the “blockbusters are bad!”

Quite frankly Xbox didn’t got any added value, it took value away from PlayStation.
How will the future be? Who knows?

 
Don't matter? Lots of people played Overwatch and Diablo III on their PS4s, myself included.

And if MS manages to revive Warcraft and Starcraft... well, that would be a problem for Sony.
I understand but those franchises dont move the needle. My gf loves Diablo, I understand it has fans and sold copies. Just like Xbox will be fine without Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Playstation would be fine without every single one of them.
no youre right. if we're keeping it real, this is massive because of COD. Activisions stock went up mainly because of mobile gaming (other than COD)
Yup COD is the game changer.

Either they make the game exclusive to gamepass. And people switch from Playstation to Xbox. Or another franchise fills the hole. Wonder how they’ll play it.

If anything Socom fans should be happy. Sony will no longer have to please Activision. They had to cancel alot of franchises to please them through the years becuase they are too similar to their heavy hitters.

 

tommib

Member
It's not really COD that i'm bothered about. If this consolidation ended with them then Sony would be fine. It's just one franchise albiet a massive one

But $70 fucking billion lol. They've skipped the pecking order and just went for the most expensive one. Who else have they got their eye on? EA? Ubisoft? Wouldn't suprise me if they do get the Warner Bros studios next given all the rumours surrounding them, and get exclusive video game rights to DC.
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aclar00

Member
Well, this is the quickest/best way for MSFT to bolster GamePass games. There only other choice would be to create studios and new IPs that would take years or pay millions per game to publishers to have their games on Gamepass day one. This is relatively cost effective in terms of getting subscribers, particular super casuals or rarely play games but would purchase a subscriptions and then forget about it until months down the road. To them its a great deal.

I personally didnt think MSFT would be this bold this soon, howevet, but guess they didnt want to wait 7-10 years for Gamespass to be the Netflix of game subscriptions.

Sony will have to stand out one way or another. They have great games undoubtedly, but they will need a long term strategy as nothing they have brings in the revenue COD does. What their strategy is or could be, IDK...

They will def need to bolster their games and stuidos though and may need 6 or more AAA game a yeat to compete.
 

fart town usa

Gold Member
Ok I'm officially calling it - Sony/Nintendo merger towards the end of this generation. Don't ask how, I'm just saying this is the only way both of these companies move forward if they hope to have a chance of continuing their closed ecosystem/premium gaming model for household and handheld gaming in the long-term.

Even if it was financially feasible for Sony to purchase Take Two, it's not enough.
That would actually be amazing.

Outside of the Wii U, I generally have lost all my enjoyment with Nintendo but it's like I have to own a Switch and whatever the next thing is because of Zelda. If I could just get a Sony console that has Zelda, that'd be amazing.

I don't think it has any chance of actually happening but it's a fun thought to ponder.
 

Edgelord79

Gold Member
Most of PS gamers say they are not affected, because they dont play CoD, they do not understand what CoD means for PS. If CoD goes exclusive, PS willblose 30% of the console sells, because in reality they are driven by CoD and FIFA players, not GoW players. And also will lose the money generated by CoD games, which will influence future 1st party studio budgets.
This right here. There is a nice amount of people that only care about these annualized releases and will follow wherever they go. This is a big deal. People thinking that this won't really affect Sony are just sticking their heads in the sand.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
If they keep cod on playstation day 1 it will remain the number 1 game for the next 13 years.
I don't think it would. PlayStation had a vested interest in keeping CoD at #1 because ActiBliz were a business partner to PlayStation. Xbox owning it changes that dynamic, Xbox is a competing platform, the bigger kid looking to take PlayStation's lunch money, can't ever be a partner to get preferential treatment to stay #1 IMO.

First party games previously launched to avoid competing heavily with partners, IMO PlayStation will focus more on the remaining partners and then try fill the void with competing products when big ActiBliz games launch on consoles after the acquisition IMO.
 

Alebrije

Member
Nothing will change...you play PS5 for Sony's IPs ...if Sony manages to keep delivering great IPs like the last decade there wont be problem.

Also there are tons of new medium size developers and big ones that will bring enought games to Sony and Nintendo consoles if Microsof decides to keep all exclusive.
 

yurinka

Member
Most of PS gamers say they are not affected, because they dont play CoD, they do not understand what CoD means for PS. If CoD goes exclusive, PS willblose 30% of the console sells, because in reality they are driven by CoD and FIFA players, not GoW players. And also will lose the money generated by CoD games, which will influence future 1st party studio budgets.
CoD games sell 20-30M copies on all platforms, only a portion of this on PS. Pretty likely under the half. PS4 sold almost 120M consoles until now. So over 90-95% of PS4 players didn't gave a fuck about CoD.

Over 1600-1700 million PS4 games were sold before PS5 was released and more will continue will be sold. CoD or FIFA are big sellers, but a small part of the whole picture. Same goes with big 1st party games.
 
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ChiefDada

Gold Member
What are you even talking about? The only thing Nintendo has even lost from this is a couple old ports that didn't sell much from Bethesda. They don't even get COD games. This has next to no effect on them.

As I've said countless times today, it is not just about today's acquisition, but how it shapes the industry going forward. Microsoft is aiming to get as many publishers as possible to make Game pass their home. Sony and Nintendo are the only two console manufacturers that pride themselves on first party titles and core gamer ecosystem, whiles also depending on 3rd party software to support said ecosystem. If Microsoft/Tencent/and the like continue this trend (and they will) it is essentially the end of closed off/premium gaming ecosystems such as the ones Sony and Nintendo have been nurturing for decades now.
 

Dr Bass

Member
the tide are changing James let it go and go with the flow 😉
You can only make such a claim when results show that that is the case.

Activision is not the market. Yes CoD is hugely popular and has been, but again ... Activision does not dictate what happens in the gaming world. Otherwise people would be looking at them as the most powerful gaming company around and they ... just aren't. Go look at some of the things being written about Activision and their products over recent months.

Again, this is the game series that is going to "do damage" to Sony's business IF they even lose it?


We can't say what the effect of this is going to be until the votes are in so to speak, but again ... this is another publisher past their prime. Buying decades old IP on the decline (unless they could somehow get Nintendo and nurture it's IPs properly) just isn't the way to the future.

The goings on here are just so weird. People are actively rooting for a company they "don't like" to actually "lose." They actually like the market contracting if it benefits their "team" which, unless you have a pretty solid vested interest in (i.e. a major shareholder) you're just not actually on the team at all. You're buying into marketing and corporate fandom. It also kinda says you don't really like video games, you like wars.

Small life protip: Be a fan of yourself, not other people or entities. You'll be more motivated to reach your own goals and won't live vicariously through the success or failure of others, while sitting on your couch with Cheetoh fingers. Seriously. Don't be a fan of any of these companies to the point where you feel vested in their "winning" and "losing." It clouds thinking, judgement and makes people act like fools for some reason.

As I've said countless times today, it is not just about today's acquisition, but how it shapes the industry going forward. Microsoft is aiming to get as many publishers as possible to make Game pass their home. Sony and Nintendo are the only two console manufacturers that pride themselves on first party titles and core gamer ecosystem, whiles also depending on 3rd party software to support said ecosystem. If Microsoft/Tencent/and the like continue this trend (and they will) it is essentially the end of closed off/premium gaming ecosystems such as the ones Sony and Nintendo have been nurturing for decades now.
Microsoft can never buy the entire market, and they also can't own talent. People will leave MS owned companies and go make new studios if they want more creative freedom. You have a point in the direction that MS is trying to drive things, and I've been saying this is the danger of services like GP and the App Store for years. Developers know it and speak out against it all the time. The App Store has absolutely destroyed the perception of the value of software (and has a big part in this drive towards subs for consumer software itself). But I don't think I would be too worried yet. There is clearly a big market for top shelf single player games and people who care about quality will pay for it. It's why Apple makes so much money ... people are willing to make a clear exchange of cash for best-in-class products. There is a chance this acquisition doesn't even get past regulatory approval so ... in the end we will see. I wouldn't worry yet though. Their strategy based on numbers, just isn't working yet. I think that's one reason they are literally trying to strong arm their way to their goal.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
And yet there’s no evidence at all about Sony not being competitive

They are, after all, in first place and continue to sell far more first party games than Microsoft

No doubt Sony will bolster their sub service, but $70 gsmes aren’t going away nor should they

If you want to live in the glory land of copy and paste CoD every year, maybe sub services are your thing

For me, they are not, and I’m willing to support the hobby for genuine premium content
I love this year's CoD but yeah, I dont want $70 games to go away.

I also despite Netflix's offerings over the last few years. Only The Irishman has stood out in a sea of literally a $100 billion of wasted content. $200 million Dune cost a fraction of what Netflix pays for content every year and i paid full price for it twice just to see it on IMAX. I dont want content just for the sake of content. I want content that inspires me.

I do think Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom and 'some' CoDs are that premium experience I would gladly pay $70 for, but MS needs to double down on that level of quality. I spent the entire year shitting on Sony and yet Ratchet and Returnal were the only games I beat. Couldnt play Forza or Halo for more than a few hours. Wasted money on Deathloop, Guardians, Kena because i ended up playing GOW (BC) , Death Stranding (PS5) and Horizon (PC version) for another 70-100 hours instead. The quality I have come to expect from Sony games is immeasurable and none of the third party or MS entries could compete with those older Sony exclusives. At least for my tastes. I dont want Microsoft's talented studios to become the Netflix of gaming. I want that premium theater experience from them every time.

CoD has been in a rut for years now, and needs a revamp. Make it next gen only. Allow devs to experiment with the base campaign even if it means leaving MP unchanged for the masses. a COD game hasnt won GOTY since MW in 2007. It's time to change that and I think Kotick not being there will change that immediately.
 

KAL2006

Banned
I understand but those franchises dont move the needle. My gf loves Diablo, I understand it has fans and sold copies. Just like Xbox will be fine without Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Playstation would be fine without every single one of them.


I understand but those franchises dont move the needle

Playstation would be fine without every single one of them.

Microsoft buys Some studios
Playstation would be fine without Hellblade, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland,

Microsoft buys Bethesda
Playstation would be fine without Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom and etc

Microsoft buys Activision
Playstation would be fine without Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom and etc

Microsoft buys Take Two
Playstation would be fine without GTA and Red Dead

Microsoft buys Capcom
Playstation would be fine without Monster Hunter, Street Fighter and Resident Evil

Microsoft buys Sony
Playstation would be fine without...oh wait
 
I love this year's CoD but yeah, I dont want $70 games to go away.

I also despite Netflix's offerings over the last few years. Only The Irishman has stood out in a sea of literally a $100 billion of wasted content. $200 million Dune cost a fraction of what Netflix pays for content every year and i paid full price for it twice just to see it on IMAX. I dont want content just for the sake of content. I want content that inspires me.

I do think Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom and 'some' CoDs are that premium experience I would gladly pay $70 for, but MS needs to double down on that level of quality. I spent the entire year shitting on Sony and yet Ratchet and Returnal were the only games I beat. Couldnt play Forza or Halo for more than a few hours. Wasted money on Deathloop, Guardians, Kena because i ended up playing GOW (BC) , Death Stranding (PS5) and Horizon (PC version) for another 70-100 hours instead. The quality I have come to expect from Sony games is immeasurable and none of the third party or MS entries could compete with those older Sony exclusives. At least for my tastes. I dont want Microsoft's talented studios to become the Netflix of gaming. I want that premium theater experience from them every time.

CoD has been in a rut for years now, and needs a revamp. Make it next gen only. Allow devs to experiment with the base campaign even if it means leaving MP unchanged for the masses. a COD game hasnt won GOTY since MW in 2007. It's time to change that and I think Kotick not being there will change that immediately.

I think CoD will just continue the downward spiral

There is absolutely zero talent left at those studios, it’s just a factory for building the McDonald’s equivalent of gaming
 
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MonarchJT

Banned
I don't think it would. PlayStation had a vested interest in keeping CoD at #1 because ActiBliz were a business partner to PlayStation. Xbox owning it changes that dynamic, Xbox is a competing platform, the bigger kid looking to take PlayStation's lunch money, can't ever be a partner to get preferential treatment to stay #1 IMO.

First party games previously launched to avoid competing heavily with partners, IMO PlayStation will focus more on the remaining partners and then try fill the void with competing products when big ActiBliz games launch on consoles after the acquisition IMO.
And what FPS you seeing being so valid to take the place of COD, Doom, Wolfenstein, Quake etc etc if you add also Halo basically they owning the fps genre by the balls and basically ,rts,wrpg and probably best console racers
 
I don't think it would. PlayStation had a vested interest in keeping CoD at #1 because ActiBliz were a business partner to PlayStation. Xbox owning it changes that dynamic, Xbox is a competing platform, the bigger kid looking to take PlayStation's lunch money, can't ever be a partner to get preferential treatment to stay #1 IMO.

First party games previously launched to avoid competing heavily with partners, IMO PlayStation will focus more on the remaining partners and then try fill the void with competing products when big ActiBliz games launch on consoles after the acquisition IMO.
It certainly explains the Firewalk studio game in development, which I always thought was a little curious. Sony generally steered clear from FPS, especially multiplayer focused FPS, but I guess they had a hunch that Call of Duty wasn't something they can continue to rely on.

Of course, it would have to be a hell of a new IP in order to make a dent - but its founded by Destiny people, which WAS a hell of a new IP, so who knows.
 

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Insomniac the goat tier dev…bring back resistance 1 and 3 were great. 2 was just ok.
I honestly could see Insomniac making a FPS/TPS with all kinds of elements. PUB G, mechs like Titan Fall, creative aspects from Fort Nite, Destiny elements. Basically, tons of modes for everyone.

No clue if it will happen but anyone who plays Insomniac games knows that when they're on, their gameplay loops are just addicting as hell and offer some of the best weapon options in gaming.

Resistance was always a bit underwhelming to me but they're still good titles. Where Insomniac is at now though being a 1st party studio, I could easily see them making an absolute powerhouse FPS/TPS title that turns heads and captures a massive audience. Shit, look at Spiderman. That's the game that put Insomniac on the map for millions of people.
 
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