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MRNA booster shots such as Pfizer don’t block Omicron: South Africa study

Booster shots with mRNA vaccines such as those made by Pfizer and BioNTech failed to block infection with the omicron coronavirus variant in the first study of its kind, South African researchers said.

businesstech.co.za

 

[chromhound]

U.K. lifts COVID-19 restrictions, says Omicron wave 'has peaked'

Face masks will no longer be mandatory in public places and schools in England and COVID-19 passports will be dropped for large events as infections level off in large parts of the country, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said Wednesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Chittagong]

MRNA booster shots such as Pfizer don’t block Omicron: South Africa study

Booster shots with mRNA vaccines such as those made by Pfizer and BioNTech failed to block infection with the omicron coronavirus variant in the first study of its kind, South African researchers said.

businesstech.co.za

I could have scooped this after me and the Mrs copped Omicron a month after the third booster, on a single exposure and have had a pretty rough Mild Covid so far

It's pretty nuts how hard and long Omicron hit these young, healthy, low BMI, triple shotted individuals:

 

[sinnergy]

U.K. lifts COVID-19 restrictions, says Omicron wave 'has peaked'

Face masks will no longer be mandatory in public places and schools in England and COVID-19 passports will be dropped for large events as infections level off in large parts of the country, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said Wednesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Clear]

This is fantastic, tremendous interview:

 

[Chittagong]

Official - I had Omicron:

Vaccines
Moderna (May 21)
Moderna (July 21)
Pfizer (Dec 21)

Vitamin D
185 (nmol/l)

Exposures
Due to typhoon season, a single masked exposure to other people in last two weeks, on Tue 11 Jan.

Symptom diary

SYMPTOMS DAY 1 - Thu 13 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, headache. NEGATIVE

SYMPTOMS DAY 2 - Fri 14 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, fatigue, headache

SYMPTOMS DAY 3 - Sat 15 Jan - AM - 37C, runny nose, reproductive cough, fatigue, headache PM - 37.3C, congested nose, tickly throat. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 4 - Sun 16 Jan - AM - sore throat, loss of voice PM - runny nose, sneezing, 37.8C

SYMPTOMS DAY 5 - Mon 17 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. Later runny nose, took antihistamin. PM - runny nose, congested nose, sneezing, 37.1C. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 6 - Tue 18 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. A tiny roughness in voice. PM- no symptoms

ASYMPTOMATIC DAY 1 - Wed 19 Jan. POSITIVE.

 

[Chaplain]

 

[Vicetrailia]

Official - I had Omicron:

Vaccines
Moderna (May 21)
Moderna (July 21)
Pfizer (Dec 21)

Vitamin D
185 (nmol/l)

Exposures
Due to typhoon season, a single masked exposure to other people in last two weeks, on Tue 11 Jan.

Symptom diary

SYMPTOMS DAY 1 - Thu 13 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, headache. NEGATIVE

SYMPTOMS DAY 2 - Fri 14 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, fatigue, headache

SYMPTOMS DAY 3 - Sat 15 Jan - AM - 37C, runny nose, reproductive cough, fatigue, headache PM - 37.3C, congested nose, tickly throat. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 4 - Sun 16 Jan - AM - sore throat, loss of voice PM - runny nose, sneezing, 37.8C

SYMPTOMS DAY 5 - Mon 17 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. Later runny nose, took antihistamin. PM - runny nose, congested nose, sneezing, 37.1C. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 6 - Tue 18 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. A tiny roughness in voice. PM- no symptoms

ASYMPTOMATIC DAY 1 - Wed 19 Jan. POSITIVE.

I had a mild fatigue for 6 hours, a slight infrequent cough for a couple of days and that was it.

 

[G-Bus]

Found a take home test and positive. Just going to assume it's omicron.

I'm finally on the mend on day 3. Yesterday was brutal. Easily some of the worst body ache I've ever experienced. Felt like I pulled all the muscles in my legs, ass, lower back. The constant shaking.

Fuck this virus.

 

[12Goblins]

This is fantastic, tremendous interview:

aw I thought he went on JRE. love this guy!

 

[poppabk]

- When you commit so much to a conspiracy theory that everything is evidence of your conspiracy theory.

 

[sinnergy]

Good thing science is not needed when opening the UK, can go right out of the window , unlike posters here posting hours and days, that science and math need to be followed

Their own NHS is against as are most scientists as its not guided by data and science ..

Logic right here folks .while they just discovered why kids end up in the hospital with Cron.

It’s a wonderful world we take care of together!

 

[prinz_valium]

Official - I had Omicron:

Vaccines
Moderna (May 21)
Moderna (July 21)
Pfizer (Dec 21)

Vitamin D
185 (nmol/l)

Exposures
Due to typhoon season, a single masked exposure to other people in last two weeks, on Tue 11 Jan.

Symptom diary

SYMPTOMS DAY 1 - Thu 13 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, headache. NEGATIVE

SYMPTOMS DAY 2 - Fri 14 Jan - sore throat, runny nose, fatigue, headache

SYMPTOMS DAY 3 - Sat 15 Jan - AM - 37C, runny nose, reproductive cough, fatigue, headache PM - 37.3C, congested nose, tickly throat. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 4 - Sun 16 Jan - AM - sore throat, loss of voice PM - runny nose, sneezing, 37.8C

SYMPTOMS DAY 5 - Mon 17 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. Later runny nose, took antihistamin. PM - runny nose, congested nose, sneezing, 37.1C. POSITIVE.

SYMPTOMS DAY 6 - Tue 18 Jan - AM - woke up with no symptoms. A tiny roughness in voice. PM- no symptoms

ASYMPTOMATIC DAY 1 - Wed 19 Jan. POSITIVE.

The kindergarten, where my Mrs works has covid going on. 6 out of 9 personnel positive. (some confirmed Omicron, others probably the same)
First detected case was last Sunday. She still worked Monday and Thursday. Closed since Wednesday.

So far done 4 different rapid anti gene tests and all negative. She isn't asymptomatic at all. Headache, fatigue, slightly runny none and very very minor coughing.

Im worried about the incubation period.
Wonder how long it last that she could still get positive and be more infectious to others.

Was thinking about leaving. But now im not sure if that isn't to late already and also might risk my family i would go to. My test was negative, but im not 100% asymptomatic either. But I have cold like symptoms the whole year always.

As long as it's not the worst you ever felt it's mild I guess. Any other first hand experience about real bad covid talk about serious symptoms and illness

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Number of cases are down in France, pffff we got within an inch of half a million, was thinking we can make it, but no.

 

[Chittagong]

The kindergarten, where my Mrs works has covid going on. 6 out of 9 personnel positive. (some confirmed Omicron, others probably the same)
First detected case was last Sunday. She still worked Monday and Thursday. Closed since Wednesday.

So far done 4 different rapid anti gene tests and all negative. She isn't asymptomatic at all. Headache, fatigue, slightly runny none and very very minor coughing.

Im worried about the incubation period.
Wonder how long it last that she could still get positive and be more infectious to others.

Was thinking about leaving. But now im not sure if that isn't to late already and also might risk my family i would go to. My test was negative, but im not 100% asymptomatic either. But I have cold like symptoms the whole year always.

As long as it's not the worst you ever felt it's mild I guess. Any other first hand experience about real bad covid talk about serious symptoms and illness

It seems it takes a couple of days for Omicron to show up as negative in antigen.

Mine was

Infection on Tuesday => Symptoms begin on Thursday => Negative antigen on Thursday => Positive antigen on Saturday.

I was sneezing a shitload on Thursday and Friday, so if I wouldn't have been confined to the villa due to the typhoon season I would pretty likely spread it around reassured by the negative test on Thursday.

EDIT - Regarding really bad outcomes, in French Polynesia there has been only 1 hospitalisation with Omicron this year, and they were sent back home pretty quick. And this was a country where a huge percentage of people infected died of Delta. So although Omicron can be rough, I would not worry about my life.

 

[prinz_valium]

It seems it takes a couple of days for Omicron to show up as negative in antigen.

Mine was

Infection on Tuesday => Symptoms begin on Thursday => Negative antigen on Thursday => Positive antigen on Saturday.

I was sneezing a shitload on Thursday and Friday, so if I wouldn't have been confined to the villa due to the typhoon season I would pretty likely spread it around reassured by the negative test on Thursday.

EDIT - Regarding really bad outcomes, in French Polynesia there has been only 1 hospitalisation with Omicron this year, and they were sent back home pretty quick. And this was a country where a huge percentage of people infected died of Delta. So although Omicron can be rough, I would not worry about my life.

I just would like to know how high the chances are for a person that has most likely Covid Omicron symptoms, but is antigen negative, to infect someone else.
So if and how high their infectiousness is.

She does not feel well, but not at all so bad that she can't do everything. Really just normal cold like. So low viral load makes the most sense. She's boosted (a little less than 2 months ago).
I'm still unvaccinated because the Novovax vaccine won't arrive here before mid February and I hope that one has at least a chance for some broader protection against variants, that are for sure not done yet to emerge. Valneva made some claims about their protection and neuralization of omicron, but who knows if that is just pre approval stock boosting talk, or would hold up well in the real world. Sadly the Vector and MRNA did neither after very promising results in the studies.
The T cells from the current vaccines obviously help against bad outcomes. It's not wasted and some form of protection. All of those employees in the Kindergarden were vaccinated and most already boosted.

On the other hand I'm also not sure if the newer and classic vaccines (protein based and deadvirus) would provide better protection than normal infections do.
For chicken pox a vaccines basically provides lifetime 100% protection, just like a regular infection, that is really 100% you never ever get it again. Vaccine and regular infection can't possibly be 100% contrary in working and effectiveness.

Also my GF is very much in favor of all the measures against covid and very compliant, but now as she very likely has it doesn't like that I don't want to sleep with her in the same bed anymore and dont want to be with her in the same room for a longer timeperiod.
Fucking hate this pandemic, still.

 

[Chittagong]

I just would like to know how high the chances are for a person that has most likely Covid Omicron symptoms, but is antigen negative, to infect someone else.
So if and how high their infectiousness is.

She does not feel well, but not at all so bad that she can't do everything. Really just normal cold like. So low viral load makes the most sense. She's boosted (a little less than 2 months ago).
I'm still unvaccinated because the Novovax vaccine won't arrive here before mid February and I hope that one has at least a chance for some broader protection against variants, that are for sure not done yet to emerge. Valneva made some claims about their protection and neuralization of omicron, but who knows if that is just pre approval stock boosting talk, or would hold up well in the real world. Sadly the Vector and MRNA did neither after very promising results in the studies.
The T cells from the current vaccines obviously help against bad outcomes. It's not wasted and some form of protection. All of those employees in the Kindergarden were vaccinated and most already boosted.

On the other hand I'm also not sure if the newer and classic vaccines (protein based and deadvirus) would provide better protection than normal infections do.
For chicken pox a vaccines basically provides lifetime 100% protection, just like a regular infection, that is really 100% you never ever get it again. Vaccine and regular infection can't possibly be 100% contrary in working and effectiveness.

Also my GF is very much in favor of all the measures against covid and very compliant, but now as she very likely has it doesn't like that I don't want to sleep with her in the same bed anymore and dont want to be with her in the same room for a longer timeperiod.
Fucking hate this pandemic, still.

1 - The current MRNA vaccines, booster or not, offer virtually no protection against Omicron infection. Serious illness, yes.

2 -With Omicron you are infectious a day after the infection, so before symptoms and waaay before positive antigen.

3 - If you have already shared a whiff of air with your girlfriend you already have it, so relax. It’s literally that infectious. I got it from a single whiff.

So the chances are very high that a person with symptoms and antigen negative is infectious with Omicron. Any time you see the symptoms assume Omicron positive as it is the most infectious rapidly spreading pathogen on the planet. It is unlikely that something else would have outcompeted it.

 

[Chaplain]

 

[prinz_valium]

1 - The current MRNA vaccines, booster or not, offer virtually no protection against Omicron infection. Serious illness, yes.

2 -With Omicron you are infectious a day after the infection, so before symptoms and waaay before positive antigen.

3 - If you have already shared a whiff of air with your girlfriend you already have it, so relax. It’s literally that infectious. I got it from a single whiff.

So the chances are very high that a person with symptoms and antigen negative is infectious with Omicron. Any time you see the symptoms assume Omicron positive as it is the most infectious rapidly spreading pathogen on the planet. It is unlikely that something else would have outcompeted it.

That's quite a dark picture. So you can't do much at all anymore. At least this variant is milder. That is proven right now. With triple the case numbers all over the places and quite steady hospitalisations and deaths to prior waves.
How much the virus mutations and how much the high vaccination rate plays into this should be looked at more, tho. But during delta the vaccination rate was already very high in most countries.


I will still keep some distance to her.
Getting a whiff of air from her during the early stages of infection is probably still better than an additional bigger load of virus with a sneeze or cough during peak infection time.

 

[Clear]

That's quite a dark picture. So you can't do much at all anymore.

You never could.

Look, despite what we tell ourselves about the human race being masters of the Earth and nature. Ultimately we have limited powers of control.

Viral evolution is a literal force of nature. The diseases we have "defeated" by vaccination or other means all were flawed in an evolutionary sense. Either as in the case of Smallpox and were remarkably genomically stable, were unbalanced somehow in terms of pathogenicity versus transmissibility, or were attached to very specific animal or other natural reservoir that could be overtly controlled at the macro-scale.

This is the big psychological shock factor of Covid. That blow to our collective ego that yes, there is in fact a new disease doing than rounds that can in fact kill you - despite all our advances in healthcare and technology.

Its also why some people have gone nuts and authoritarian, our governments globally maintain their authority by claiming to protect us from all the bad things in the world. And of course, even though Covid has pretty much laid bare how incapable they actually are of doing this, there's plenty of those out there who's bruised ego's really don't want to face this further impact, and prefer denial and piety to actually accepting reality for what it is!

 

[Clear]

Just seen this video, thoughts? :

 

[poppabk]

You never could.

Look, despite what we tell ourselves about the human race being masters of the Earth and nature. Ultimately we have limited powers of control.

Viral evolution is a literal force of nature. The diseases we have "defeated" by vaccination or other means all were flawed in an evolutionary sense. Either as in the case of Smallpox and were remarkably genomically stable, were unbalanced somehow in terms of pathogenicity versus transmissibility, or were attached to very specific animal or other natural reservoir that could be overtly controlled at the macro-scale.

This is the big psychological shock factor of Covid. That blow to our collective ego that yes, there is in fact a new disease doing than rounds that can in fact kill you - despite all our advances in healthcare and technology.

Its also why some people have gone nuts and authoritarian, our governments globally maintain their authority by claiming to protect us from all the bad things in the world. And of course, even though Covid has pretty much laid bare how incapable they actually are of doing this, there's plenty of those out there who's bruised ego's really don't want to face this further impact, and prefer denial and piety to actually accepting reality for what it is!

This is only a shock to people who have no real knowledge of how infections or the immune system works.
The reality has always been that our immune systems are imperfect, and so vaccines are imperfect. People think of themselves as catching shingles - but it is actually the exact same chicken pox you had as a kid that has been hiding in your body for 30 or 40 years that is able to renew it's attack as your immune system has 'forgotten' about.
Most of us have at least one dangerous or deadly virus laying dormant in our body, but they cause no harm unless our immune system fails.
The global response to Covid has been a shambles but at the same time it is actually an unprecedented success compared to anything we have done previous. We have prevented several millions of deaths, and reduced a major killer to mainly the sniffles.

 

[iorek21]

How’s the vaccination going in your countries, lads? Are you vaccinating children? Here in Brazil they’ve begun vaccinating children with Pfizer; there has been some rumors about suspicious collateral effects, but I don’t really know what to believe anymore.

How are things for your countries?

 

[funkygunther]

How’s the vaccination going in your countries, lads? Are you vaccinating children? Here in Brazil they’ve begun vaccinating children with Pfizer; there has been some rumors about suspicious collateral effects, but I don’t really know what to believe anymore.

How are things for your countries?

UK has been vaccinating 5-11 if they’re immunosuppressed or live with someone that is, only. 12+ is a free-for-all and we are all well vaxxed here, like 80% 2nd and 60% on 3rd dose. The collateral effects are most likely myocarditis reports for that age range, that’s not suspicious.

 

[betrayal]

Just seen this video, thoughts? :

Summary and also pretty interesting:

Death registrations in the UK for 2020 and 2021 for deaths where COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause, but had no other pre-existing conditions recorded on the death certificate,

2020
Total deaths, 9,400
0-64, 1,549
65 and over, 7,851

2021 Q1
Total deaths, 6,483
0-64, 1,560
65 and over, 4,923

2021 Q2
Total deaths, 346
0-64, 153
65 and over, 193

2021 Q3
Total deaths, 1,142
0-64, 512
65 and over, 630

Therefore, 2020 and first 3 quarters of 2021 total deaths from COVID alone =17,371.

Of this number 13,597 were 65 or over and 3,774 were under 65.

Average age of death in UK from COVID in 2021 -> 82.5 years.
Average life expectancy in the UK, 2018 to 2020 -> 80.95 years.




Some should read the last section with the average age several times to understand it.

 

[poppabk]

Summary and also pretty interesting:

Death registrations in the UK for 2020 and 2021 for deaths where COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause, but had no other pre-existing conditions recorded on the death certificate,

2020
Total deaths, 9,400
0-64, 1,549
65 and over, 7,851

2021 Q1
Total deaths, 6,483
0-64, 1,560
65 and over, 4,923

2021 Q2
Total deaths, 346
0-64, 153
65 and over, 193

2021 Q3
Total deaths, 1,142
0-64, 512
65 and over, 630

Therefore, 2020 and first 3 quarters of 2021 total deaths from COVID alone =17,371.

Of this number 13,597 were 65 or over and 3,774 were under 65.

Average age of death in UK from COVID in 2021 -> 82.5 years.
Average life expectancy in the UK, 2018 to 2020 -> 80.95 years.




Some should read the last section with the average age several times to understand it.

Ignoring the massive problem with just choosing death certificates with only Covid listed (you find me a single 80 year old who doesn't have some health issues that would contribute to a Covid death) the life expectancy of someone who is 80 in the UK is another 9 years.

 

[Chittagong]

Ignoring the massive problem with just choosing death certificates with only Covid listed (you find me a single 80 year old who doesn't have some health issues that would contribute to a Covid death) the life expectancy of someone who is 80 in the UK is another 9 years.

According to the video. The average life expectancy for men in UK is around 79, down 7 weeks during the pandemic, and 82 years for women, up 0.5 years during the pandemic.

Given that the *average* age of people dying with covid as the only cause and no pre-existing conditions in UK is 82 years, it seems covid found quite a few generally healthy old people.

 

[FireFly]

According to the video. The average life expectancy for men in UK is around 79, down 7 weeks during the pandemic, and 82 years for women, up 0.5 years during the pandemic.

Given that the *average* age of people dying with covid as the only cause and no pre-existing conditions in UK is 82 years, it seems covid found quite a few generally healthy old people.

It sounds strange, but life expectancy goes up as you get older.

Life expectancy calculator - Office for National Statistics

Enter your age and sex in our calculator to find out your life expectancy, and the likelihood of you living to be 100 years old.

www.ons.gov.uk

 

[prinz_valium]

It sounds strange, but life expectancy goes up as you get older.

Life expectancy calculator - Office for National Statistics

Enter your age and sex in our calculator to find out your life expectancy, and the likelihood of you living to be 100 years old.

www.ons.gov.uk

So if you get to 99, your life expectancy is suddenly 103?

Nice.

 

[Clear]

I just thought it was interesting how far the data deviated from projections and the media impression.

And it really drove home the point that certain cohorts, especially age cohorts, have very different experiences of the disease.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Summary and also pretty interesting:

Death registrations in the UK for 2020 and 2021 for deaths where COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause, but had no other pre-existing conditions recorded on the death certificate,

2020
Total deaths, 9,400
0-64, 1,549
65 and over, 7,851

2021 Q1
Total deaths, 6,483
0-64, 1,560
65 and over, 4,923

2021 Q2
Total deaths, 346
0-64, 153
65 and over, 193

2021 Q3
Total deaths, 1,142
0-64, 512
65 and over, 630

Therefore, 2020 and first 3 quarters of 2021 total deaths from COVID alone =17,371.

Of this number 13,597 were 65 or over and 3,774 were under 65.

Average age of death in UK from COVID in 2021 -> 82.5 years.
Average life expectancy in the UK, 2018 to 2020 -> 80.95 years.




Some should read the last section with the average age several times to understand it.

If this data is accurate and the classification is good, sounds right to me. Even way back when shit hit the fan and people were dropping like flies in old age homes in early 2020, it was right from the beginning covid was deadly for old people. While the rest seem very resistant to it. Ad the younger you go the better it is, which sounds odd as you'd think a healthy beefy 40 year old dude's body would be stronger than an 8 year old. But not true.

A shame too because so much shit has changed like masks, shots etc.... when in reality it's that old age bracket that should had a bullseye on their head for cautious lifestyle while the rest should be more let loose.

I get it. If every young person gets shots too then everyone gets more protected and there's less risk of an old person getting infected by a healthy 40 year old. But instead of job or school based policies, it should really be age based policies. And if that means extra rules for old people to not walk around town like The Golden Girls, then they should be the ones on extra extra extra precaution and living in a bubble for two years until the crisis is over and everyone can be back to normal.

Yet the most vulnerable people (senior citizens) are just as unleashed as 8 years olds. Actually, its the young bracket that has been hit with more policies than old people. Which doesnt even make sense as young people barely get affected right from the start. And that young age bracket didnt even get shots until later in the game. Yet schools are locked down as if they are the high risk ones. Makes no sense.

 

[TheContact]

Well after 2 years of dodging it despite working in person every day and have school aged children I tested positive with a take home test (I took one bc my daughter tested positive and I had a very slight scratchy throat). The take home tests were easy to do and only took 15 minutes total

 

[prinz_valium]

Well after 2 years of dodging it despite working in person every day and have school aged children I tested positive with a take home test (I took one bc my daughter tested positive and I had a very slight scratchy throat). The take home tests were easy to do and only took 15 minutes total

I feel you. Even tho my take home tests were negative so far. GF is getting a PCR tomorrow.
When she's positive I can get a PCR, too as a close contact.
But 2 years being fine and now getting it suck.

I was quite proud of not getting or spreading covid unlike hundred of million other people.
Now I can't claim anymore im not part of the pandemic and definitely not the problem no matter my vaccination status.

 

[funkygunther]

I feel you. Even tho my take home tests were negative so far. GF is getting a PCR tomorrow.
When she's positive I can get a PCR, too as a close contact.
But 2 years being fine and now getting it suck.

I was quite proud of not getting or spreading covid unlike hundred of million other people.
Now I can't claim anymore im not part of the pandemic and definitely not the problem no matter my vaccination status.

how do you know you didn’t have it and were asymptomatic?

 

[Shai-Tan]

Just seen this video, thoughts? :

Looked into that dude in the past. He’s a pseudo expert under the illusion that he can make inferences from studies he reads on video with very little understanding (just a random MD), popular mostly due to contrarian takes that fit the confirmation bias of his scientifically illiterate audience

 

[prinz_valium]

how do you know you didn’t have it and were asymptomatic?

No contact to people. Sure there is a chance, but extremely unlikely. The few people I saw the last 2 years had to have it and be asymptomatic, too. You have to catch the virus somewhere. And right now is the first time everything is plausible.

Also I live in a region that always has super low case rates.
Semi rural Germany, that never was hit badly like other rural regions here.
Right now we have a case rate of 350 new infections per 100k people in 7 days and that's by far the highest it's ever been.

But I didn't make an antibody test to be 100% certain, or even more certain. Especially as you have to visit a medical facility for that I would rather avoid.

 

[Chaplain]

 

[Cyberpunkd]

525 527 new cases, we did it France:

 

[G-Bus]

I know people lose sense of taste and smell but has there been anything about it going.. weird?

everything either barely tastes like itself or has a weird flavour. Like m&ms are earthy with this odd spicy kind of thing going on with a little sweetness.

 

[adamsapple]

Jesus look at the differential there ..

 

[Chittagong]

I know people lose sense of taste and smell but has there been anything about it going.. weird?

everything either barely tastes like itself or has a weird flavour. Like m&ms are earthy with this odd spicy kind of thing going on with a little sweetness.

It’s actually a bottle of Old Spice identifying as an m&m. Don’t be such a bigot.

 

[betrayal]

Ignoring the massive problem with just choosing death certificates with only Covid listed (you find me a single 80 year old who doesn't have some health issues that would contribute to a Covid death) the life expectancy of someone who is 80 in the UK is another 9 years.

Yes, that's true, of course, but you're making a very classic mistake in interpreting statistics. Just because pre-existing conditions become more likely with increasing age does not change the fact that very few people without (diagnosed) pre-existing conditions die of corona. So of course it's the old that are dying. That's why the average age of the deaths is higher than the average life expectancy.

 

[BadBurger]

525 527 new cases, we did it France:

Get back to us when you hit a million. Amateurs.

 

[FunkMiller]

525 527 new cases, we did it France:

Jesus Christ! what are you garlic munchers doing over there? Licking each other in the street?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Jesus Christ! what are you garlic munchers doing over there? Licking each other in the street?

People get tested en masse since it’s free for the vaccinated. After one kid tests positive in a class everyone has to make 3 tests within a week.

 

[Chittagong]

France

Assuming at least 50% of omicron goes untested as it is so mild France will burn through omicron in less than two months for 100% of population

Fucking boss

 

[Cyberpunkd]

France

Assuming at least 50% of omicron goes untested as it is so mild France will burn through omicron in less than two months for 100% of population

Fucking boss

 

[betrayal]

France

Assuming at least 50% of omicron goes untested as it is so mild France will burn through omicron in less than two months for 100% of population

Fucking boss

It's not only France.

Almost every single country in this world does this. We are experiencing the beginning of the end of the pandemic.

 

[prinz_valium]

Jesus look at the differential there ..

Look at the differential to other countries.
In Germany we have a 10x lower difference in vaccinated and unvaccinated.

The only explanation I can think of is the overall way worse physical conditions of unvaccinated vs vaccinated in the us and healthcare access of those groups.
Or it's propaganda. That's possible, too.

 

[Clear]

Looked into that dude in the past. He’s a pseudo expert under the illusion that he can make inferences from studies he reads on video with very little understanding (just a random MD), popular mostly due to contrarian takes that fit the confirmation bias of his scientifically illiterate audience

Based on the stuff I've seen, strikes me as an honest broker of information. His qualifications aren't secret, and seem above board to me.

He shows his data, cites his sources, and doesn't over-dramatize and sensationalize. Not much contrarianism to be found beyond a cautious interest in the therapeutic values of Ivermectin, a topic that's been stupidly politicized when it really had no business being.

Either way I find his stuff infinitely better than most.