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Does this mean Blade is Xbox console exclusive?
- Thread starter TxKnight7
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FingerBang
Member
It fucking should be exclusive. This is a new game they got a license for, from the studios they bought. If it's not, then their plan is to stop making consoles and exclusive games and just get into publishing.
And I say this as someone who thought MS buying publishers has been a shitty thing that overall makes gaming worse.
And I say this as someone who thought MS buying publishers has been a shitty thing that overall makes gaming worse.
RickMasters
Member
I think they do this on purpose. They nobot gets non-Xbox owners excited and talking.
Obviously it works.
Kerotan
Member
Blade exclusive to a platform getting outsold 9 to 1 by playstation in most EU and Asian countries makes no sense. Such a waste of effort for it not to be played by the majority of console gamers.
Part of me thinks they're not that stupid and won't make it Xbox exclusive.
scarlet0pimp
Member
I guess it will be exclusive, the are not announcing yet as it will be downplayed by alot of the game media as soon as that happens. Being xbox exclusive is a bit of a chain around the games neck. Once it's closer to release probably a couple of years they will announce its xbox and pc day 1 game pass.
TxKnight7
Member
Xbox + PC + Cloud gaming has more players than just Ps5
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Starfield would have broken players and sales records if that meant anything.
elmos-acc
Member
This might be the most dishonest argument I have yet to read on this board.
There is not anything ambiguous about "in development for PS5". It has literally the information about the launch platform.
But when the assumed first party exclusive does not have ANY mention of the platform or even the platform owner, it is purposefully ambiguous. We know the developer, so we assume that it is an action/immersive sim game. It could as well be a mobile game, or a PC only game. It says on Bethesda's website that it is a third person single player game, but that does not tell us lot.
The astroturfing sentiment is strong AF.
Mr Moose
Member
Roxkis_ii
Member
Why wouldn't they not just say that If that's the case? It's the folks running Xbox that making this ambiguous. How can you announce a game and not even know if it's exclusive or not?
If anyone asked Sony about whether or not Wolverine was exclusive, it wouldn't be a mystery.
Oh, and nice Xbox victim meme.
Sony
Nintendo
JackMcGunns
Member
I think it's childish to review bomb and media bomb a game that's not coming to people's platform of choice. Maybe this is their way to avoid that, let the game get the praise or negative press it deserves rather than getting negative spin merely because it's on Xbox.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Reposting just so you know I am dead serious when I say this.
Blade will be on PS5.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If it's exclusive and xbox is trolling us then you have your exact answer as to why they aren't successful. They are far more interested in winning points with shills like Colteastwood and Timdog than actually winning.
tkscz
Member
This is and will remain a Switch exclusive because Nintendo helped make it. I would assume the same would apply to Blade since Microsoft own Bethesda and Bethesda are the ones making it.
Edit: Not to mention the Insomniac Spider-man games being Sony exclusive (and on PC too but not any other console).
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TxKnight7
Member
Will Blade be any different if it was released on PS5 alone?, lets not forget bloodborne only sold like 2+m compared to ps4 Huge user base
what make you think blade will break players and sales records if it was on ps5 and not do the same on Xbox + PC + Cloud here are more players than just PS5?
It didn't do anything for any of their games sales wise.
VolticArchangel
Member
The one thing I truly hate about Xbox is their godawful marketing.
Whether intentional or not, why the fuck would you confuse your customers on your first party content? Last time you did that, you lost a console generation, and sold 26-28 million less Xbox's than your predecessor.
Do you really need engagement on your first party content in it's negative connotation, discussing whether or not it's exclusive, instead of talking about the game, it's setting, story, gameplay, content and so on?
Xbox and negative PR go hand in hand, not because of competitors, but only because of themselves.
And for god's sake, NO. This won't be coming to any console other than Xbox, for the same reason the new Marvel's Spider-Man games by Insomniac don't. It's a goddamn single player game, not MP/GaaS like MLB The Show, Minecraft and Elder Scrolls Online. If it does, then it's a stupid fuckin' deal by Xbox to even make this game in the first place, instead of having Arkane Lyon make Dishonored 3.
Whether intentional or not, why the fuck would you confuse your customers on your first party content? Last time you did that, you lost a console generation, and sold 26-28 million less Xbox's than your predecessor.
Do you really need engagement on your first party content in it's negative connotation, discussing whether or not it's exclusive, instead of talking about the game, it's setting, story, gameplay, content and so on?
Xbox and negative PR go hand in hand, not because of competitors, but only because of themselves.
And for god's sake, NO. This won't be coming to any console other than Xbox, for the same reason the new Marvel's Spider-Man games by Insomniac don't. It's a goddamn single player game, not MP/GaaS like MLB The Show, Minecraft and Elder Scrolls Online. If it does, then it's a stupid fuckin' deal by Xbox to even make this game in the first place, instead of having Arkane Lyon make Dishonored 3.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
By the time it comes out, Xbox will be a 3rd party publisher anyway. They're finished. I hate to say it, but I've given up on them. I will still use my XSX console as I see fit and play Gamepass games until my subscription expires in 2025.
Yes, their marketing is goddawful. They're far more intested in winning browny points with shills/influencers like Colteastwood/Timdog etc.
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Hudo
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Pelta88
Member
This isn't a conversation in the broader market. Relative to other trailers from TGA the trailer views for Blade are low. The fact that XB leadership are playing with the ip show that, despite the near 100 Billion they just spent, they are desperate for any slither, morsel, or discarded crumb of mindshare.
XB leadership when there's a chance someone might give them some attention...
XB leadership when there's a chance someone might give them some attention...
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crackajack
Member
With my limited knowledge of either IP I would assume Blade could be very similar to Wolverine, so if that's remotely the case it will be interesting how well they will be received by fans.
Personally with the limited amount of infos, and ignoring Redfall a bit, vampire stuff and a black cool hero interests me more than a gruffy slicer in a, depending on which design they go for, weird looking costume. I guess Arkane might keep their first person tradition while Insomniac keeps third person? Then already very different. Hack and slash and hero stuff is rather proven to work in third person, but first person might be interesting fresher, more immersive but also lacking seeing the playable hero.
Personally with the limited amount of infos, and ignoring Redfall a bit, vampire stuff and a black cool hero interests me more than a gruffy slicer in a, depending on which design they go for, weird looking costume. I guess Arkane might keep their first person tradition while Insomniac keeps third person? Then already very different. Hack and slash and hero stuff is rather proven to work in third person, but first person might be interesting fresher, more immersive but also lacking seeing the playable hero.
mayham2199
Member
Blade is going to be third person this was already announced. Wolverine is a much more popular character than Blade. At the end of the day though all that will matter is if they game is good. Good thing is Wolverine game is rated R.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My best guesstimate is that Wolverine will be more of a brawler and Blade a more block / parry kind of Sword fighting game.
Kerotan
Member
This is the type of game where sales wise it would do most revenue on playstation and a tiny proportion on Xbox. Why limit it so much on the home console market. I still feel like it's on ps5. Otherwise they would have said it was Xbox exclusive. They're not that stupid surely.
elmos-acc
Member
It's not even review bombing or media bombing. Actually the fact is that Xbox is overrepresented in gaming media compared to actual consumer interest.
I agree with you that review bombing and overly negative press are not justified, but what MS fears more is that people simply have no reaction. If they announced Blade as Xbox exclusive, the Spider-Man crowd would just shrug and not even remember it until it releases some time from now. Then, it will get maybe 800,000 copies sold and 5-8 million people play it through GamePass, which will still probably be at 25-30 million subscribers.
If it is a GOTY candidate when it releases, it can of course make a great impact though. We'll see.
twilo99
Member
“Oh no! They haven’t said if it’s Xbox exclusive or not yet. They are being childish and stringing us along with their ambiguity”
This forum really is something special!
It’s an Xbox studio. You can assume it will most likely be console exclusive. So nothing to worry about if you have an Xbox or a gaming PC.
I think it’s actually going to be a PlayStation exclusive since that’s where all the adult superhero fans are anyway
SaucyJack
Member
I've said this elsewhere, but IMO if this was exclusive then Microsoft would have said so, unambiguously. When they are ambiguous this is usually because the game is not exclusive and they are trying to give the impression that it is - or as previously the case with Bethesda when they were trying to pull the wool over the EU's eyes. MS have many ways of saying exclusive, console exclusive, platform exclusive, premiering on Xbox (timed exclusive), etc. and we've seen none of this. I may, of course, be wrong and they may be messing with us but that really would be a weird marketing play for a platform that needs all the excitement that it can get.
Regardless of exclusivity it will, of course, be Day One on Gamepass. It doesn't need to be exclusive for this to be the case.
So if it's being made by Bethesda why would it not be exclusive to Xbox? Well obviously because the ip is owned by Marvel (and ultimately Disney) and the licensing of said ip will come with a cost and conditions. If they've paid for and secured console exclusivity for Xbox then fine, but given the relative weakness of Xbox sales this would come with significant cost. And I come back to not understanding why they wouldn't have just said so if it is the case.
People pointing to Spider-Man and PlayStation (and Wolverine) fail to recognise multiple reasons why that situation is different:
- Sony's longer standing and more complex relationship with Spider-Man ip which they purchased many years back. They had the rights to the Spider-Man game on the back of this and had negotiating leverage when Disney wanted to include Spider-Man in the Avengers series
- PlayStation's stronger market position means that lost revenue is far less of a concern
- Spider-Man is literally THE most popular Marvel character by a long long way, the commercial success of that project was never in doubt. The same can't be said for Blade
Regardless of exclusivity it will, of course, be Day One on Gamepass. It doesn't need to be exclusive for this to be the case.
So if it's being made by Bethesda why would it not be exclusive to Xbox? Well obviously because the ip is owned by Marvel (and ultimately Disney) and the licensing of said ip will come with a cost and conditions. If they've paid for and secured console exclusivity for Xbox then fine, but given the relative weakness of Xbox sales this would come with significant cost. And I come back to not understanding why they wouldn't have just said so if it is the case.
People pointing to Spider-Man and PlayStation (and Wolverine) fail to recognise multiple reasons why that situation is different:
- Sony's longer standing and more complex relationship with Spider-Man ip which they purchased many years back. They had the rights to the Spider-Man game on the back of this and had negotiating leverage when Disney wanted to include Spider-Man in the Avengers series
- PlayStation's stronger market position means that lost revenue is far less of a concern
- Spider-Man is literally THE most popular Marvel character by a long long way, the commercial success of that project was never in doubt. The same can't be said for Blade
Punished Miku
Member
Times sure do change. It's pretty wild watching all the handwringing about a Marvel game not having enough exposure on Xbox. Licensed games didn't used to be such serious business.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Before Starfield was confirmed to be exclusive it was unthinkable to some that it wouldn't come to Playstation, for the same reasons being aired here.
Having said that, I must admit, I don't know why they wouldn't have said which platforms it was coming to. I don't see how it would benefit Microsoft to not announce the platform(s). If I wanted to get really Charlie Day detective maps and string on the walls.jpg about it, I'd say that they want as much to be said about the game as possible, and arguably the ambiguity around it generates more discussion (see: This thread) than just coming out and saying it. But that seems quite unlikely to me.
oldergamer
Member
Perhaps.... Just perhaps they have not made a decision on which platforms they want to support. Or they simply don't have to say anything until its ready to launch outside of Xbox. The only people up in arms about this, are Sony fans. Xbox gamers know they are getting the game.
Katatonic
Member
SaucyJack
Member
The difference with Starfield was that it was not licensed ip and Xbox were being coy about its exclusivity status because they were lying to the regulators.
SaucyJack
Member
That would be next-level management incompetence if that were true.
hououinkyouma00
Member
I hate the way Xbox goes about this stuff.
They advertise Sega games like Persona as if they are Xbox only just without any sort of exclusive tags. Then 48 hours later we learn that everything is still multi-platform. They want you to believe they are exclusive and hopefully not look further into it. I love Xbox of old but I fall further away all the time. A lot of people are saying since it's a marvel IP it will be multiplatform but Spider-Man is much bigger then Blade and is PS Exclusive (time but still not coming to Xbox).
They advertise Sega games like Persona as if they are Xbox only just without any sort of exclusive tags. Then 48 hours later we learn that everything is still multi-platform. They want you to believe they are exclusive and hopefully not look further into it. I love Xbox of old but I fall further away all the time. A lot of people are saying since it's a marvel IP it will be multiplatform but Spider-Man is much bigger then Blade and is PS Exclusive (time but still not coming to Xbox).
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Xbox fanboys completely fail to realize this. Sony having film rights to Spiderman gives them HUGE negotiating power. One of those was exclusive rights to Spiderman video games. I would imagine that Sony also used this to create leverage for a Wolverine game, which surprised me. Disney would love nothing more than have total control over Spiderman, but right now Sony has all the leverage especially when you consider that Spiderman films have easily been the most successful MCU film's post Endgame and pretty much all non-Spiderman films have barely broken even or outright flopped. Marvel is in a very weak position right now with these flops. When these games are selling around 15 - 20M on PS. It's not hard to see how Sony was able to negotiate exclusive video game rights to Spiderman and Wolverine games. Marvel made more from Now Way Home royalties than they have from any single MCU film this year. That's how much power Sony has when negotiating. Xbox has NONE of that.
Having said that, it's also entirely possible that Xbox was able to negotiate an exclusive deal for Blade given that the MCU is now damaged goods.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
In the case of Blade, they accomplished the complete opposite. They have made everyone think it's not exclusive and we don't know for sure as they have declined to comment on it. I wouldn't put it past the execs just trolling considering what a POS Greenberg and that they love hanging out with twitter/youtube fanboys
Gambit2483
Member
The fact that this is even a question shows you the absolute state Xbox is currently in.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
This is and will remain a Switch exclusive because Nintendo helped make it. I would assume the same would apply to Blade since Microsoft own Bethesda and Bethesda are the ones making it.
Edit: Not to mention the Insomniac Spider-man games being Sony exclusive (and on PC too but not any other console).
This basically shuts down any talk about Marvel forcing Microsoft to release Blade on PS5.
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PaintTinJr
Member
Are Disney/Marvel?
The IP in reality (IMHO) is in a state of being a poor man's Castlevania for gamers(maybe not film goers). So getting access to that huge PlayStation userbase and washing around the word Marvel in huge spiderman styled importance could triple sales and add value to the IP, even if the game comes off as Clone Wars on Xbox OG.
Even just adding PlayStation to the platform list gets them far more feedback when sending in milestone submission versions that could enhance the product because the PlayStation SDK - getting features from PlayStation first party games - might offer features that Xbox's SDK doesn't have implemented for console, thereby adding a new feature on the PlayStation version and forcing the feature to be added for parity on Xbox, helping the overall offering and potentially enhancing the IP.
Fredrik
Member
You’re living in a console bubble. Pop it. Everything Microsoft make is on Xbox Series, sometimes Xbox One, Microsoft Store, Steam, XCloud, sometimes Geforce Now. The userbase is big enough for exclusivity. For reference, Forza Horizon 5 is up at 35 million players now.
But I still think Blade will be a multiplat simply since the unveil still hasn’t had a single mention of Xbox or Microsoft.
Tbh it’s a somewhat clever strategy since it makes people talk, which is free marketing, so no matter what happens it’ll be a big deal once the platforms are announced in 3-5 years or whatever.
Katatonic
Member
Then why give t to MS in the first place?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
yet, it will easily sell infinitely more on the pS5 than all of those. Even mentioning cloud is a joke. The amount of people buying and exclusively playing the game on cloud would likely be well under 5 digits.
I don't think it matters much it was just announced but I do feel it will be exclusive to Xbox just like spider-man and wolverine. I also don't think people should get their hopes up for day 1 game pass either just yet.
sendit
Member
Why wouldn't it be day 1 Gamepass? This is a Microsoft/Bethesda published game, it will be on game pass day 1.
Mozzarella
Member
Yeah its definitely going to be Xbox exclusive.
I dont know im not excited for it, current Arkane has been disappointing to me, their last good game was Prey, surprisingly its also the last game that had Raphael working on it.
Youngblood -> Deathloop -> Redfall and now a 3rd person action game with Marvel?! i dont know about that, but i fear Arkane are dead, they are no longer the immersive sim dev i liked.
I dont know im not excited for it, current Arkane has been disappointing to me, their last good game was Prey, surprisingly its also the last game that had Raphael working on it.
Youngblood -> Deathloop -> Redfall and now a 3rd person action game with Marvel?! i dont know about that, but i fear Arkane are dead, they are no longer the immersive sim dev i liked.
Kerotan
Member
Revenue. GP is losing money not making it. 35M players is very misleading especially when most of those are GP subscriber's who'll try out a game and not play it again.
Xbox is losing so much relevance and games can't afford to miss playstation. Personally I don't think Marvel is retarded and this will Indeed come to playstation.