Reliable source for what exactly? a fps test? the video i posted is nintendo fanboy channel and plenty of fps tests show the same results.Neither will be any of the other consoles. Still going to get it for switch 2
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Resident Evil Village Nintendo Switch 2 is not a stable 60fps.
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LordOcidax
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according to DF it is, and its the only way it makes sense they took that build and basically got 1440p/60fps with out dlss. I mean it's a gpu bound and no one even argues that ps4 pro in raw power is more powerful then switch 2 yet its running double the fps.
LordOcidax
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Switch 2 not Nintendo
SegaSnatcher
Member
I mean, I'm not surprised.
They should really target 40fps option on Switch 2.
They should really target 40fps option on Switch 2.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Again, you have no sense of understanding english when DF speaks, just like for all your cyberpunk 2077 arguments. When Oliver says its closer to Switch 1 than Series S because of things like SSR missing, it's also fucking lacking on previous consoles. Not that it's literally the Switch 1 version running on Switch 2.
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you literally see post processing effects missing from the start of DF video if you compare to pro and yes they do say they took the switch 2 version as opposed to ps4/pro versions.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
You literally see post processing effects missing from the PS4 pro footage as the difference between Series S and Switch 2. Put them side by side with the DF footage if you have to. Or you know, PS4 pro vs Switch 2 footage I included.
For someone who shared a video of switch 2 vs steam deck a few days ago and couldn't see any setting differences, when ambient occlusion is not even on steam deck
720p performance FSR 2
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83 as any motion it looks like pixel soup and the view distance on steam deck is not even in the same ballpark as switch 2
Ambient occlusion?
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83 as any motion it looks like pixel soup and the view distance on steam deck is not even in the same ballpark as switch 2
Ambient occlusion?
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83
Don't you fucking dare saying you see any differences between PS4 pro and switch 2 footage
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Seomel
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Congrats. You found 1ms of traversal stutter. Its like you expect us not to have eyesJust like the "solid 60fps" RE8 PS4 pro?
Find moment like this
You literally see post processing effects missing from the PS4 pro footage as the difference between Series S and Switch 2. Put them side by side with the DF footage if you have to. Or you know, PS4 pro vs Switch 2 footage I included.
For someone who shared a video of switch 2 vs steam deck a few days ago and couldn't see any setting differences, when ambient occlusion is not even on steam deck
720p performance FSR 2
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83 as any motion it looks like pixel soup and the view distance on steam deck is not even in the same ballpark as switch 2
Ambient occlusion?
"I can't tell the difference" - subzero83
Don't you fucking dare saying you see any differences between PS4 pro and switch 2 footage
DF was the one that said it not using the ps4/pro versions and using switch 1 version so to take out on them. to me it looks like switch 1 version, and they all look pretty much the same minus some ssr, in the end of the day the game runs on switch 1 and aside from resolution and 60fps it looks pretty much the same as switch 1 version 90% of the time, being that its a gpu bound game and ps4 pro is 11x stronger then switch 1 no reason it should not be running this at 1440/60fps, if you have logical reason why its not let me know cause every game ps4 pro shows it has a stronger gpu then switch 2. the game can run 1080p/60fps on SD at these settings but pro can't.
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DF didn't say that, dude. Please stop lying about that stuff.
The Switch 2 version is running with the same exact graphical settings as the PS4/PS4 Pro version at 60 fps.
Switch 1 vs Switch 2 vs PS4pro
Also about CP077, it's very clear Switch 2 is ahead when it comes to IQ and performances. I don't know why some of you are really unable to accept the facts about that.
Lol, no. In what delusional world do ypu life in? The switch 2 runs almost any game better as ps4 pro and is closer to series s with even most of the time better IQ. Also, it isnt stable 60fps on pro as well. Also, you'll need to compare the visuals settings. Also fay one patch.
DF didn't say that, dude. Please stop lying about that stuff.
The Switch 2 version is running with the same exact graphical settings as the PS4/PS4 Pro version at 60 fps.
Switch 1 vs Switch 2 vs PS4pro
Did you watch the video? olivar says they did not use the 8th gen version and looks like they took the switch 1 version and uprezzed the resolution and added 60fps. he says its closer to the switch 1 version in his own words. as for cyberpunk we have a video showing pro running 10fps better in stress tests so wtf are you talking about. as for the IQ DF did a video comparing cyberpunk ps4 pro vs series s and said they have about the same IQ so it lines up with switch 2.DF didn't say that, dude. Please stop lying about that stuff.
The Switch 2 version is running with the same exact graphical settings as the PS4/PS4 Pro version at 60 fps.
Switch 1 vs Switch 2 vs PS4pro
Also about CP077, it's very clear Switch 2 is ahead when it comes to IQ and performances. I don't know why some of you are really unable to accept the facts about that.
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calling someone delusional is funny when you have no clue to what you're talking about.
kevboard
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what on earth did you smoke?
FalconPunch
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Its not bad for such weak hardware like the Switch 2. I'm not sure what you want the developers to do? Ps4 level hardware performs like ps4 hardware? Why is it surprising?
Yea it has more modern features and better support for upscaling and raytracing but at its core, it's just ps4 level hardware on a really bad node. Nintendo fans will be pleased because it now runs on the device locally at 60fps. It's more than good enough for that audience.
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Haint
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The half flop theoric, holy shit, what is this, are we back 5 fucking years ago?
3060's 7.5 TFlops (as per your claim) keeping up with AMD's 6600 XT's 10.6 TFlops!
Or even keeping up with AMD's 7600 21.75 TFlops (now RDNA 3 is a fucking joke in TFlops numbers)
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Peoples making those statements have no understanding of concurrency in a pipeline and how to maximize occupancy
The desktop 3060 will exceed boost clocks basically 100% of the time when gaming and is in practice beyond 13TF's. But even taking the low end of 13TF, divide by 2 and add 30% and you're around 8.5TF. The 6600XT is, across a multi-game average, between 10-15% faster than the 3060, and everyone recognizes AMD desktop cards (especially older 6000's) were significantly handicapped by terrible drivers and developers completely ignoring them due to their abysmal market share. The 7600XT is RDNA3 which supports simultaneous FP32/INT32 and itself has "double counted" inflated FLOPs.
Ampere was 2020
More importantly the Orin AGX which T239 is based on was released in March 2022. Also magically they managed to add Ada's clock-gating into T239, 7 years ago. T239 being tested in fab as printed on its die in 2021 matches the Orin AGX deployment.
I said "designed" for a reason, the architecture was designed well before it was manufactured and released to consumers in 2020. The Switch 2 SOC literally has 2021 stamped on it and was only taped out "that late" cause there was no scenario Nintendo wanted it before then (including if Covid never happened). The architecture itself obviously long predates 2021.
Yes thank you for listing the kinds of features I was referring to with that statement, which not all games use. The games that do leverage them extensively are likely to run poorly on a base PS4 and better on Switch 2. The games that do not leverage them are likely to run much closer to par across base PS4 and Switch 2.
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Oliver made an error there because by simply upressed switch 1 version alone, it won't magically produce more assets on the Switch 2 version, or he simply forgot the PS4/X1 version exists for comparison.
The PS4 Pro version is also missing some graphical features, as is the Switch 2.
Switch 2 vs PS4 pro vs Xbox Series S
Take a look at all of those post-processing effects like SSR and blooms on Xbox Series S vs. the Switch 2 and PS4 Pro versions, which look exactly the same.
Series S
Switch 2 and PS4 pro
Regarding CP2077.
I literally posted the screenshot comparison between PS4 Pro and Switch 2, and somehow your eyes are unable to see it properly when Switch 2 IQ is superior.
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The evidence is there, but you clearly want to troll on the system? Is that it? Or you just don't have any clue
Reality
It's not 60fps on ps4 pro. The ps4 base runs at 45 fps, not 60. Switch 2 runs close to stable 60 fps.
It's hilariouse when people trying to say it's on par with ps4 while it's by far not. Not even close. Not to mention the other visual aspecs which are closer to the ps5 version.
I mean look at this:
"The frame only drops between some dips of the shifting bigger area, but overal it's rock solid. "
Just like the ps4 pro, but with better quality (already confirmed)
Another proof that switch 2 is between ps4 pro and series s
But yeah haters going to hate...
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Buggy Loop
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"bUt oLiVer saID.."
Oh you little
This thread will always be proof the guy is a troll. Thanks subzero for establishing this benchmark.
Even with multiple videos and peoples calling it out, you didn't double, nor triple, you quadrupled down on your stupid notion that this is a switch 1 upres. Again failing to understand basic English when hearing DF talk.
Oh you little
This thread will always be proof the guy is a troll. Thanks subzero for establishing this benchmark.
Even with multiple videos and peoples calling it out, you didn't double, nor triple, you quadrupled down on your stupid notion that this is a switch 1 upres. Again failing to understand basic English when hearing DF talk.
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LordOcidax
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Buggy Loop
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Not a single average here you're anywhere near 10-15% above a 3060, and this is without RT! Most of the time 3060 leads
So by your calculation, 8.5TFlops ahead of a 10.6 TFlops. Make it make sense lol
With RT then 3060 leads with +20%
So for 276 mm^2 with "fake trouble TFlops", competent ML which has now transformer model, competent ray tracing blocks, it still manages to match or exceed the 236mm^2 dedicated mainly to raster. On a much denser TSMC node than Samsung's 8nm too.
So what year exactly did AMD catch up in functionality clock for clock, core for core with Ampere?
Hooolllyyyy shit the cope
Not even ayyMD subreddit would muster the courage to type the nonsense you just did
Developers ignoring them…. By calling hardware agnostic function calls in their DX12 or Vulkan APIs? Do you understand how any of this works?
Which AMD's solution clearly never worked for gaming
Unlike Nvidia's ampere and Ada
Taped out in 2021
Revisions can happen after
But yes Nintendo did sit on it
And is that 7 years?
Haint mathing
Star Wars outlaws uses all the advantages of a newer architecture minus mesh shaders, which it would actually benefit from performance wise unless you do not understand the purpose of it.
So games that do not use more VRAM, better CPU than base PS4, without RT, or without compute shader features like mesh shaders, don't use SSD, don't use I/O texture decompression/streaming, would be akin to base PS4
Fucking hell
Yes yes, you figured it out.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Please can we stop saying the Switch 2 is PS4 level hardware. It's a massive oversimplification.
It's a PS4 guys, but has features the PS4 couldn't dream of, such as RT support and upscalinig. Let's not forget the superior CPU and RAM as well!
But yes, it's just PS4 level hardware. Exactly the same hardware released in 2013!
I get it. It's not as powerful as a PS5. But calling it PS4 level hardware is crazy.
Its not crazy at all when just about every port is similar results to base ps4. the features that you talking about is broken low quality RTGI that's noisy and looks like crap.
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LordOcidax
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yea many games are skipping a 13 year old system and coming out on switch 1 not surprising. MK0, sparkling 0, dragon quest reimagined, thats not ow you compare hardware.Like Liberty City and RE9
LordOcidax
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pro runs vastly better then this in same area just stop. you clearly see its running like the base ps4 version.
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LordOcidax
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Boy bawang
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As always, on last generation games, the Switch is a PS4 +. On modern games, it's more like a Series S lite thanks to its excellent features.
Mozza
Member
Both 7 & 8 look pretty solid on Switch 2, and if you buy the generations pack they are a steal at only £10 each.
Mozza
Member
I think this sounds more like it.
how many times you gonna post the same thing.
Switch 1 with a resolution bump and would look very close ps4 pro that was my point minus some textures but overall they are close. again SD can run the game with these settings at 1080p/60fps so considering ps4 pro gpu is vastly more powerful then SD its just a terrible port on pro cause like i said before every port shown even your show case cyberpunk has higher resolution on pro. you wanna call people troll but you ignore every port that doesn't fit your narrative because there is no logic to switch 2 running double the fps on gpu limited game other then being a terrible port."bUt oLiVer saID.."
Oh you little
This thread will always be proof the guy is a troll. Thanks subzero for establishing this benchmark.
Even with multiple videos and peoples calling it out, you didn't double, nor triple, you quadrupled down on your stupid notion that this is a switch 1 upres. Again failing to understand basic English when hearing DF talk.
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vodka-bull
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Nintendo wasn't the company to go for 3rd party since the Gamecube.
Mozza
Member
He is a troll pure and simple ... do not feed him.
LordOcidax
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i was talking about sonic racing worlds the switch 1 version at 1440p would look close to pro.
switch 1 version with resolution bump via emualtion.
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Mozza
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Yes.... because of course that was never this threads intention lol.. The clue is in the thread title.
Redneckerz
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Imagine actually playing the game OP and having fun. I understand that this is a terrible concept because you are rather out here trying to tell people who don't care about it that the Switch 2 is PS4 levels of performance.
Suppose it is: SO WHAT? I understand you want people to get a Ryse (See what i did there) out of you but to every normal gamer, it doesn't matter what you think. They just play the games.
Having typed that;
The problem is what is the right amount of console warring. Too much means you arrive somewhere else. Too little and you don't win any participation trophy.
Suppose it is: SO WHAT? I understand you want people to get a Ryse (See what i did there) out of you but to every normal gamer, it doesn't matter what you think. They just play the games.
Having typed that;
Even better is that we still allow these threads to exist and to subdivide. Console warring is also what attracts visitors to GAF, you know.
The problem is what is the right amount of console warring. Too much means you arrive somewhere else. Too little and you don't win any participation trophy.
Pssh, this is PS2 Super Slim level. Have you seen the bandwidth of the Switch 2. The PS2 is slightly less than half of that for its eDRAM.
