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Forza horizon 6 : Another disaster for 8Gb GPUs
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
And yet the vast majority of games still run just fine on 10 year old cards, you just lower the settings, let alone newer cards with 8GB of VRAM which barely have to lower anything.
Not everything is a conspiracy theory, it's a rather expensive component and products generally are offered in a range of prices. GPU makers can't determine what/when something is obsolete as the market dictates what the makers of games choose to support, and they have no interest in forcing you to upgrade an expensive component so that you have less money to pay for games.
Beyond that, they offer cards with more VRAM so "they will never put more than the bare minimum" is just flat out wrong.
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Bojji
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VRAM wasn't very expensive for nvidia in 2020, 2022 and Q1 2025 and yet - they still gave the lowest possible amounts for xx50, xx60, xx60Ti and xx70 cards.
It was like that since 20xx series. Right now you can't even play at 1080 without lowering the settings in many games, and 5060TI is not a slow GPU. Fuck me:
It's close to 3080 and 7800XT. 8GB version is fucking crippled and can perform worse than 3060 in some games. 5060 with 12GB of memory would be fucking amazing low-mid range option.
"Buy new GPU, lower textures to low-medium settings and turn off RT, 8GB is enough!" - while your buddy that bought 16GB version can play with everything maxed out.
roosnam1980
Gold Member
Bojji
Member
Turn off RT, lower texture quality, enable lower tier of DLSS and play the game with ~50% GPU utilization - fucking hilarious for all those "happy" 4060TI/5080TI 8GB owners.
Game is playable on 8GB GPUs, of course - but you have to sacrifice a lot to get there, in general it has lower performance with this amount of memory, even on lower settings.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Fair enough. Still isn't the video card manufacturers who determine when something is obsolete, and games still look great at 1080p in motion to me.VRAM wasn't very expensive for nvidia in 2020, 2022 and Q1 2025 and yet - they still gave the lowest possible amounts for xx50, xx60, xx60Ti and xx70 cards.
It was like that since 20xx series. Right now you can't even play at 1080 without lowering the settings in many games, and 5060TI is not a slow GPU. Fuck me:
It's close to 3080 and 7800XT. 8GB version is fucking crippled and can perform worse than 3060 in some games. 5060 with 12GB of memory would be fucking amazing low-mid range option.
"Buy new GPU, lower textures to low-medium settings and turn off RT, 8GB is enough!" - while your buddy that bought 16GB version can play with everything maxed out.
(I have a 12GB card so doesn't really apply to me but I find it rather pointless to go above 1440p)
And I find it hilarious that you find it hilarious people are happy to play videogames that still look great. Serious diminishing returns to me.
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simpatico
Gold Member
Do people not expect to lower settings when they buy an entry level GPU anymore? I wouldn't worry about the 8GB Ti owners. Surely they've got a mouth watering list of prescription medications to even end up with such a device.
LordCBH
Member
The problem being is that every GPU manufacturer only makes 8GB GPU's if you don't want to spend an arm, leg, and kidney.
Bojji
Member
GPU itself - 5060TI is not exactly entry level, in PT it mops the floor with the biggest GPUs in 3000 series, in raster it's comparable.
I doubt many 5060Ti owners were conscious of the decision they have made, nvidia did everything in their power to hide the reviews of 8GB cards:
LordCBH
Member
The 8GB model really shouldn't even be sold as a 5060 Ti model tbh. The difference in performance between the two variants is staggering.
Bojji
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LordCBH
Member
The top end 7000 card having 24GB was crazy too. Wish the top end 9000 series matched that. Though I really can't complain about the performance of the 9070XT.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That is some wizardry happening on Linux.
I'm happily on Bazzite right now. Is Cachy worth the switch?
roosnam1980
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asdasdasdbb
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Because they knew that Youtubers would make Rage Bait videos like the one OP posted.
Bojji
Member
Rage bait? Fuck me... what is incorrect in this video?
Buy new 5060ti 8GB for 380$ and play at low/medium settings?
asdasdasdbb
Member
No, you're supposed to pony up for the higher VRAM models. That doesn't get the clicks tho.
Bojji
Member
Video pretty much explains why you should get GPU with more memory...
spons
Gold Member
The RX 7700 XT with its 12 GB of VRAM is aging like fine wine.
That, but I'm also too poor to get anything better.
Also that Linux video posted earlier is bat shit insane. The inaction from Microsoft in turning its OS back into a proper gaming system again is baffling. They're not just being gained up upon, they're being completely overtaken.
That, but I'm also too poor to get anything better.
Also that Linux video posted earlier is bat shit insane. The inaction from Microsoft in turning its OS back into a proper gaming system again is baffling. They're not just being gained up upon, they're being completely overtaken.
Madserb2023
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It makes sense that we are starting to see more games struggle on 8 gig GPUs as we approach the next generation consoles which could have 24 gig and above. This is only going to get more common. This game could very well be something that was developed with Project Helix in mind for a future update.
twilo99
Member
It shows that's Nvidia were indeed doing the minimum
MCH2024
Member
More FUD from AMDUB. Oh well.
Lets wait for more objective reviewers.
No they didn't. If you couldn't afford 16GB, that's "I can't afford it" problem.
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Bojji
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No, 8GB cards should't be a thing outside of xx50 series, they are obsolete in modern games since 2023 (and nvidia knows this).
Doing tests and showing results = spreading FUD. Ok.
MCH2024
Member
Failed products. Ampere aged much better lol.
MCH2024
Member
Complete nonsense.
Please VRAM FUD is a thing for 2023. Memory now is no longer cheap. You don't get to do 8GB GPUs should be 150$ BS in 2026.
You get 100fps in 1080p High + RT Here. And you can probably lower VRAM intensive settings like textures to get usage under 8GB.
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Bojji
Member
3070 aged like a fine wine:
Those 17FPS 1% lows in 1080p
And the earth is flat.
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MCH2024
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We need Nvidia to Release 3GB IC GPUs ASAP tbqh.
More cherrypicked AMDUB FUD isn't going to move anyone. No one cares.
AMDUB FUD Aside, Nvidia should release 9GB dGPUs.
RTX 5050 9GB
RTX 5060 9GB
RTX 5060 Ti 12GB
And then they can discontinue all existing 5050/5060/5060 Ti cards.
And I love how they call it 8GB disaster. When the game runs 100fps w/1080p + High + RT.
And that's with AMDUB not understanding you're supposed to run DLSS at Performance preset to get Model M (Transformer model, almost free with blackwell). It'd have ran Extreme + 1080p + RT if they knew that probably.
You can also just lower VRAM intensive settings you know?
and yet RTX 3070 outsold like 3/4th RDNA2 lineup. Has a multi attention Transformer Upscaler and will probably get FG soon.3070 aged like a fine wine:
Those 17FPS 1% lows in 1080p
More cherrypicked AMDUB FUD isn't going to move anyone. No one cares.
AMDUB FUD Aside, Nvidia should release 9GB dGPUs.
RTX 5050 9GB
RTX 5060 9GB
RTX 5060 Ti 12GB
And then they can discontinue all existing 5050/5060/5060 Ti cards.
And I love how they call it 8GB disaster. When the game runs 100fps w/1080p + High + RT.
And that's with AMDUB not understanding you're supposed to run DLSS at Performance preset to get Model M (Transformer model, almost free with blackwell). It'd have ran Extreme + 1080p + RT if they knew that probably.
You can also just lower VRAM intensive settings you know?
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asdasdasdbb
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Do you want x50 cards to be $400+?
Radical_3d
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I came here to say exactly this. Nowadays is not the game's fault but the owner's.
Bojji
Member
Until you can't (engine just requite x amount even on low settings) or reach the stage when game looks like poop.
Games are designed with 8-10GB of VRAM in mind (PS5 memory), 8GB GPU has 6.7GB of usable memory - do you see the problem here?
DLSS is not always a magic solution, in some games VRAM differences from using it are minimal.
Oh and 16GB variants of the cards can run everything maxed out (at least in 1080p), users don't have to calculate stuff and test every setting to reach playable results...
I don't give a fuck about those cards, they are mostly useless anyway.
MCH2024
Member
8GB is just fine. All it takes is high textures and high geometry and extreme preset runs very well.
This game runs great on 8GB. And if a game requires more than 8GB, the game is DOA on PC. At least given current PC shipment and cumulative share dynamics.
You mean the one card that's 549$ and the other card that's only in stock because AIBs can't manage to sell it?
Those cards could have had 10-12GB and it wouldn't have made a difference functionally.
Then don't give your opinion about how much VRAM they should have.
It's all pie in the sky enthusiasts wanting to price out lower end gamers lmao. It's always like this……
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Radical_3d
Member
I've quoted
rodrigolfp
and received a like from
Bojji
. I'm at a
LordOcidax
mention to admit that I'm completely wrong in this one.
MCH2024
Member
The game literally gets 50fps average with 4K Extreme settings (High texture/geometry) on an RTX 4060.
Imagine complaining about 8GB VRAM in such a game…..
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Bojji
Member
8GB defenders - unite!
There are TONS of videos showing absolute shit results on 8GB variants of 4060/5060TI and yet, you still deny them like Bernard here:
With 12GB of VRAM, 5060 would be a fucking amazing replacement for 3060, but it's dogshit and limited in many new games to poop texture quality.
memoryman3
Member
Ray Tracing On?
AMD cards also seem to perform much better than the Nvidia equivalents in Forza...
MCH2024
Member
Nope. 4K Extreme / High Textures.
On another note. They should start testing with Xbox Mode FFS.
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Bojji
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RT requires memory, are you nuts?! You can't use it on nvidia cards (supposedly so good at RT) but you can on AMD GPUs with enough memory.
The best solution to 8GB owners is to set everything to very low and not complain that nvidia screwed them.
MCH2024
Member
Those RDNA2/3 AMD cards can't raytrace and can barely upscale. Whether they have 8GB or 16GB is irrelevant.
Such insistent whining. My god the 5% of AMD owners are a PIA.
8GB Nvidia can run this game 4K Near Maxed out normal raster. Or 1080p RT High. Stop the unintelligible trolling.
And this is testing without Xbox Mode Windows / not Linux. AKA Windows in it's VRAM unoptimized state.
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memoryman3
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So throwing away Nvidia's advantages then. With Indiana Jones wanting so much memory, maybe AMD's VRAM maxing strategy worked out. Can RDNA 2 and 3 ray trace well at 30fps?
Xbox Mode only has the memory savings on select devices (handhelds) at the moment. On other form factors, performance is almost identical to Desktop Mode.
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Hector Hall
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Man, Steam Machine with be toasted with its 8GB of VRAM
MCH2024
Member
You can run probably run 1080p Ultra with High textures / RT at over 60fps with DLSS 4.5.
This game doesn't seem like a high VRAM use title. In fact it seems to very smartly trade away performance when it doesn't have enough VRAM. Very well optimized.!