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Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest

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Aeonin

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It likely will not come out in court, the defense would need to do some magic to even not get it tossed out. To somehow link these past stupid kid remarks and such being dragged out on the net and link it to the shooting? Doubtful. Media is just trying to portray the kid in a bad light as if that somehow justifies the other side.

Being a juror once - I can tell you that whether it gets thrown out or not - it'll make an impression on the people who will matter most in this case. Its 100% character assassination - they're trying to prove he has a past history with aggressive and wreckless behavior - if his twitter posts were more outlandish and violent, I'd say they would be kept in court. But as it stands now, I agree with you.
 
Most teenagers post about drugs and beating up bus drivers? Interesting.

How about their friends saying they knew he beat up Zimmerman - which is what eye witnesses are saying as well:

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SmokyDave

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Smearing a dead kid over some speculated mild drug use using the words of his friends is low. In what way is it relevant to the events of the night in question?
 

Kosmo

Banned
Oh he smoked pot and posting things on Twitter that a teenage would probably post on the internet?

Zimmerman is innocent. Case closed.

All I'm saying is that the impression of what could have gone down that night are much different when viewed from the perspective of the victim being a 17-year old experimenting with drugs and the picture of a 14 year-old kid in ski goggles picking up Skittles and tea. The latter is much more likely to stoke racial tensions and is what is being played up.

I think Zimmerman is guilty of something and should spend time in jail - hopefully this goes to court.
 

bjb

Banned
Point was to show that his "friend" (actually I think it's his cousin) is saying stupid shit on twitter. Things that I typically don't see other teenagers posting about. Drugs, beatings etc.

In response to the poster above.

The fact he says "I know you whooped his ass doe" is (I thought) merely irony to what other witnesses said occurred before the shooting.
 
Zimmeran's defense team will try and paint Trayvon as a suspicious kid with a troubled past.

Source: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321862
smh @ the bolded.

The URLs from that article contain "patdollard" in them

Pat Dollard posted an article 5 hours ago that says that Trayvon Martin was a "drug dealing gangbanger." Almost all of the images come from that page.

Twitter says the accounts don't exist, so they have probably been deleted in response to the exposure of less than flattering details, which in turn verifies that they are legit.

Still, it's disgusting to see people work so hard at vilifying a victim because of their own prejudices. He may have smoked weed, had tattoos, and was in trouble at school...but that doesn't mean his death wasn't senseless.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
Most teenagers post about drugs and beating up bus drivers? Interesting.

How about their friends saying they knew he beat up Zimmerman - which is what eye witnesses are saying as well:

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Onemic

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Most teenagers post about drugs and beating up bus drivers? Interesting.

How about their friends saying they knew he beat up Zimmerman - which is what eye witnesses are saying as well:

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bjb has solved the case. Trayvon's history of smoking weed made him go crazy and ambush zimmerman as he was going back into his car. The weed and bag of skittles gave him superhuman strength so that he could effortlessly beat a man literally twice his size to the point that zimmerman had no other alternative but to shoot. Zimmerman is an innocent man and Trayvon was simply a hoodlum looking for trouble. Plus his friends have superhuman x-ray vision and were able to see what happened with their keen spider sense.

Thank you bjb for solving this case.
 
Being a juror once - I can tell you that whether it gets thrown out or not - it'll make an impression on the people who will matter most in this case. Its 100% character assassination - they're trying to prove he has a past history with aggressive and wreckless behavior - if his twitter posts were more outlandish and violent, I'd say they would be kept in court. But as it stands now, I agree with you.

In trial court case yea the defense might attempt character assassination. This type of stuff though does not happen at least for the grand jury who does not have a defense attorney present who is trying to convince you otherwise.
 

bjb

Banned
bjb has solved the case. Trayvon's history of smoking weed made him go crazy and ambush zimmerman as he was going back into his car. The weed and bag of skittles gave him superhuman strength so that he could effortlessly beat a man literally twice his size to the point that zimmerman had no other alternative but to shoot. Zimmerman is an innocent man and Trayvon was simply a hoodlum looking for trouble. Plus his friends have superhuman x-ray vision and were able to see what happened with their keen spider sense.

Thank you bjb for solving this case.

Yeah bro you got me.

Obviously his cousin received a text after he was dead explaining the whole deal.

Clearly that was the point I was trying to make.


Being a juror once - I can tell you that whether it gets thrown out or not - it'll make an impression on the people who will matter most in this case. Its 100% character assassination - they're trying to prove he has a past history with aggressive and wreckless behavior - if his twitter posts were more outlandish and violent, I'd say they would be kept in court. But as it stands now, I agree with you.


Yup it'll just be a tactic by Zimmerman's defense team. You can almost guarantee it at this point with the new information coming out.

I mean FFS we just had the Casey Anthony debacle. Her entire life story (most of is completely irrelevant) was paraded out in the courtoom and in the media.
 

commedieu

Banned
All I'm saying is that the impression of what could have gone down that night are much different when viewed from the perspective of the victim being a 17-year old experimenting with drugs and the picture of a 14 year-old kid in ski goggles picking up Skittles and tea. The latter is much more likely to stoke racial tensions and is what is being played up.

I think Zimmerman is guilty of something and should spend time in jail - hopefully this goes to court.

Most adults of the world, are fully aware of what they are doing when they were 17. And it has no bearing on him being murdered for walking.

I just hope the world is ready to hear the case changing bombshell that Trayvon has also had premarital sex at 17, and went to parties where alcohol & drugs were present.
 

Trojita

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ABC News has also learned that Martin was staying in Sanford at the time because he'd been suspended from Krop High School in Miami after being found with an empty bag of marijuana. He was staying at his father's fiance's house in Sanford.

Isn't an empty bag of marijuana..... an empty bag?

It seems that the latest report says that Zimmerman said Trayvon went for his gun.

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.

Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the teenager.

In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin.

The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning. He was not arrested.
 
Point was to show that his "friend" (actually I think it's his cousin) is saying stupid shit on twitter. Things that I typically don't see other teenagers posting about. Drugs, beatings etc.

In response to the poster above.

The fact he says "I know you whooped his ass doe" is (I thought) merely irony to what other witnesses said occurred before the shooting.

Just stop. You have no idea about what kids post on twitter.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=456770

I can only imagine the patience some mods must have.
 

commedieu

Banned
Yeah bro you got me.

Obviously his cousin received a text after he was dead explaining the whole deal.

Clearly that was the point I was trying to make.

What point are you trying to make by posting the most irrelevant posts in the history of this thread.

I think thats what everyone wants to know, and you're beyond failing at explaining it yourself.

You are aware that none of this has to do with him being shot, right? He didn't have a gun on him, the guy who was told to stay in the car had the gun on him.
 

Branduil

Member
Yeah bro you got me.

Obviously his cousin received a text after he was dead explaining the whole deal.

Clearly that was the point I was trying to make.

You realize that assuming you believed his cousin received a psychic post-mortem message is actually the generous reading of your post?
 

akira28

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Kid has no muscle tone at all, how was he able to kick Zimermans ass like he claims?

Adrenaline rush. He might have had Skittles in his system, so there's that. Plus you know Redguar...I mean black people have superior physical abilities. Twitch muscle fibers and growing up in urban environments mean they're born fighters.
 
The mental gymnastics I'm seeing in this thread to paint Zimmerman as a 250 pound man with a gun that feared for his life after following and engaging a 150 pound stranger is just fucking astounding.

Absolutely fucking astounding.
 

smurfx

get some go again
Isn't an empty bag of marijuana..... an empty bag?

It seems that the latest report says that Zimmerman said Trayvon went for his gun.
how would treyvon know zimmerman had a gun if he hadn't shown it to him? is that not a sign that treyvon attacked zimmerman because he threatened him with a gun?
 

East Lake

Member
All I'm saying is that the impression of what could have gone down that night are much different when viewed from the perspective of the victim being a 17-year old experimenting with drugs and the picture of a 14 year-old kid in ski goggles picking up Skittles and tea. The latter is much more likely to stoke racial tensions and is what is being played up.
This is written like he was doing cocaine or some shit.
 

Aeonin

Member
All I'm reading in this thread now is people being pissed at other posters for defending Zimmerman - which I have yet to really see yet. Ain't no KHarvey in here, who here is really defending Zimmerman?
 
Adrenaline rush. He might have had Skittles in his system, so there's that. Plus you know Redguar...I mean black people have superior physical abilities. Twitch muscle fibers and growing up in urban environments mean they're born fighters.

Dont forget about the extra bone in our feet.
 

Arcteryx

Member
how would treyvon know zimmerman had a gun if he hadn't shown it to him? is that not a sign that treyvon attacked zimmerman because he threatened him with a gun?

He might have been open carrying or during the fight it might have been shown/felt while rolling around.
 

commedieu

Banned
I'm still waiting for people to realize that Trayvon is well within his rights to go for Zimmermans gun & Shoot him, since his life was in danger. That is the defense...right...? And hell, more applicable than Zimmermans pursuit of trayvon..

Right?
 

bjb

Banned
What point are you trying to make by posting the most irrelevant posts in the history of this thread.

I think thats what everyone wants to know, and you're beyond failing at explaining it yourself.

You are aware that none of this has to do with him being shot, right? He didn't have a gun on him, the guy who was told to stay in the car had the gun on him.

I've stated multiple times I'm aware it's not relevant to what happened that night.

However, it's still going to be used as ammunition for Zimmerman's defense. Both in court and through the media. Regardless of if it gets thrown out or not.

Just amazes me how salty people get. God forbid you post anything that's not years old photos of him in a holister t-shirt.
 

Slayven

Member
The mental gymnastics I'm seeing in this thread to paint Zimmerman as a 250 pound man with a gun that feared for his life after following and engaging a 150 pound stranger is just fucking astounding.

Absolutely fucking astounding.

To be fair the kid was soaking wet, that added a good 2 or 3 pounds.
 

Septimius

Junior Member
I'm still waiting for people to realize that Trayvon is well within his rights to go for Zimmermans gun & Shoot him, since his life was in danger.

Mind. Blown.

And what's up with that 911 call where you hear someone frantically yelling help for near a full minute before the gun-shot?

EDIT: and fuck. This whole thing makes me more paranoid about social media. I'm sure you can portray someone as anything if you go through their entire post history. I'm sure I've even made some "YO DAWG IMMA SLAP U SILY" updates in my time.
 
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