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Media Create Sales: Week 28, 2013 (Jul 08 - Jul 14)

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Glass Rebel

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Bruno MB said:
02./00. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 54.015 / NEW <55%> 98.000 units shipped.
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Inazuma Eleven debuted with 41,458 in MC, more than doubled its sales in 2 months until the anime started airing and went on to crack 400k over 2 years later. I don't think they'll be able to replicate its success but it shouldn't be hard to crack 150k.
 
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metalslimer

Member
guek said:
What kind of turnaround do you think is possible at all at this point? I wouldn't blame you if you believe that it's a lost cause indefinitely but I also don't think it's too irrational to think they might be able to improve their fortunes significantly.

I really dislike it when people refer to a irrational nondescript entity as if they make up a sizable vocal group. You say "some people" but I don't think I've seen anyone imply that it's likely that nintendo will work their way out of 3rd place for months now. The vast majority seems well aware that the Wii U is selling like shit. No one is really refuting that (though a very small minority does like to blame random factors such as the weather). If you wanna say Wii U is dead, that's fine, but trying to call out "some people" for saying it's not a foregone conclusion seems pretty silly to me.
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Well i've seen people say Wiiu will sell like gangbusters when the games come. There are a good contingency that seem to think Wiiu will have the greatest turnaround in videogame history
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Disappointing first day of sales for Mario & Luigi RPG 4 according to retailers's blogs (Azalyn, GamesMaya and Yosipooh).
But they're not worried because expect better results this weekend and the following weeks.
 
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Glass Rebel

Member
hiska-kun said:
Disappointing first day of sales for Mario & Luigi RPG 4 according to retailers's blogs (Azalyn, GamesMaya and Yosipooh).
But they're not worried because expect better results this weekend and the following weeks.
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Fears about M&L4 being released too close to Paper Mario might have been justified then. Hope it still does well, it's a great game.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Road said:
Congratulations to hiska-kun for winning by both units and percentages!

Code: 
BY UNITS                             BY PERCENTAGE

  1    98,501 hiska-kun                 1   65.1% hiska-kun
  2   185,133 Kenka                     2  118.9% XDDX
  3   193,133 XDDX                      3  144.1% Kenka
  4   203,001 Yeshua                    4  152.5% saichi
  5   207,961 Bruno MB                  5  156.6% Yeshua
  6   245,760 strangedopamine           6  163.6% strangedopamine
  7   250,001 metalslimer               7  164.0% metalslimer
  8   252,961 MasterSheen               8  168.4% Bruno MB
  9   255,338 saichi                    9  170.1% MasterSheen
 10   278,539 Kandinsky                10  171.4% Orgen
 11   285,223 Road                     11  175.1% Road
 12   293,001 DrWong                   12  185.4% DrWong
 13   298,001 Zeer0id                  13  185.6% Chris1964
 14   301,197 Chris1964                14  197.8% Nekki
 15   323,001 fek                      15  198.2% deathcobra
 16   334,339 Nekki                    16  199.3% Kandinsky
 17   358,001 deathcobra               17  199.7% fek
 18   363,000 lunchwithyuzo            18  210.4% michaelius
 19   369,471 michaelius               19  214.2% lunchwithyuzo
 20   386,193 L Thammy                 20  224.2% Zeer0id
 21   390,001 Orgen                    21  234.0% L Thammy
 22   433,001 ohlawd                   22  254.8% ohlawd
 23   673,063 Gianni Merryman          23  500.0% Gianni Merryman

                                     Famitsu    Bruno MB  Gianni Me Zeer0id   MasterShe deathcobr strangedo metalslim Nekki     Chris1964 ohlawd    L Thammy  michaeliu lunchwith fek       Orgen     DrWong    Kandinsky Yeshua    Kenka      Road      hiska-kun XDDX      saichi
[3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D    154,296    225000         0    300000    240000    375000    250000    310000    325000    321098    400000    297151    350000    333333    320000    417000    305000    109900    180000    212000    222222    166000    180000    199999
[3DS] New Etrian Odyssey                 92,566    100000         0    125000    105000    105000    101500     95000    105000     89012    130000     93142     70000     99999    100000     93000    100000     55202    100000     65000     99999     93000     85000    101000
[PS3] Gundam Breaker                    170,020    177000         0    150000    200000    155000    150079    163000    120000    123456    170000     62281    100000     88888    150000    129000    130000    160600     80000    170000     88888    145000    110000     99000
[PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy               58,169     98000         0     85000     75000     75000     42500     70000     55000     67890     90000     50583     55000     66666     70000     61000     65000     82900     90000     80000     66666     67500     65000     53000
[PSP+PSV] Toukiden                      198,012    115000         0    125000     90000    105000     92500    125000    100000    123456     80000     70575    120000    111111     80000    115000    110000    360640    150000    120000     77777    146000    105000     73000

UNIT DIFF                                     0    207961    673063    298001    252961    358001    245760    250001    334339    301197    433001    386193    369471    363000    323001    390001    293001    278539    203001    185133    285223     98501    193133    255338
PERCENTAGE DIFF                            0.0%    168.4%    500.0%    224.2%    170.1%    198.2%    163.6%    164.0%    197.8%    185.6%    254.8%    234.0%    210.4%    214.2%    199.7%    171.4%    185.4%    199.3%    156.6%    144.1%    175.1%     65.1%    118.9%    152.5%

STATISTICS
                                        Famitsu   GAF-AVG   MIN       MAX       OVER      UNDER     CLOSEST   BY
[3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D    154,296   274,487   109,900   417,000       91%        9%   166,000 hiska-kun
[3DS] New Etrian Odyssey                 92,566    95,948    55,202   130,000       74%       26%    93,000 Orgen
[PS3] Gundam Breaker                    170,020   132,827    62,281   200,000        9%       91%   170,000 ohlawd
[PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy               58,169    69,623    42,500    98,000       74%       26%    61,000 Orgen
[PSP+PSV] Toukiden                      198,012   117,957    70,575   360,640        4%       96%   150,000 Yeshua

- Quite the convincing lead by hiska-kun this month.
- I was ready to say everybody underestimated Toukiden, but Kandisky bet 360k...
- Gundam was also underestimated, but not as much in average.
- DKR went in the opposite direction, with most people overestimating.
- Gianni Merryman edited after the deadline...
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I didn't realized this was posted (I haven't read the full thread yet...).
Thank you, I was pretty close on everything. I hoped The Last of Us was included...

Looking forward to next month, and thank you for your job.
 
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guek

Banned
metalslimer said:
Well i've seen people say Wiiu will sell like gangbusters when the games come. There are a good contingency that seem to think Wiiu will have the greatest turnaround in videogame history
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I really don't think so. Seems to me like you're confusing "sales will improve" with "sales will skyrocket."

It's like that dumb chalboard image. How many people really expected Pikmin 3 to "save" the Wii U? Improve its sales? Do better than it actually did? Sure, but find me someone who actually said "when Pikmin 3 comes out, Wii U sales will explode like with the Wii."
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
metalslimer said:
Well i've seen people say Wiiu will sell like gangbusters when the games come. There are a good contingency that seem to think Wiiu will have the greatest turnaround in videogame history
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Who has said that in the last three months or so?
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Anyone expecting the console to exceed Gamecube sales are expecting sales to skyrocket. That seems to be mostly everyone on the other side of the fence from my point of view over here.
 
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ASIS

Member
Pie and Beans said:
Anyone expecting the console to reach or exceed Gamecube sales are expecting sales to skyrocket. That seems to be mostly everyone on the other side of the fence from my point of view over here.
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Skyrocket? In multiplier terms, maybe. In reality, exceeding GC sales wouldn't exactly be "skyrocketing". Especially considering the market size now VS. 6th Gen.
 
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Biker19

Banned
StoppedInTracks said:
Blaming low Wii U sales on the weather. Now I've seen everything.
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This. People can now just easily order things like home gaming consoles & games from online & have retailers like Amazon ship it out to them.

This isn't like the mid-90's to the mid-2000's (or through 2006) where online shopping wasn't very huge.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
ASIS said:
Skyrocket? In multiplier terms, maybe. In reality, exceeding GC sales wouldn't exactly be "skyrocketing". Especially considering the market size now VS. 6th Gen.
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From where it is currently in Dreamcast/Saturn doldrums (10 million) to Gamecube (21 million), I'd call that expecting some skyrocketing to occur.

Guess it all hinges on Nintendo going for broke with the most obnoxiously in your face advertising every second to coincide with Mario games and a price drop I guess.
 
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guek

Banned
Pie and Beans said:
From where it is currently in Dreamcast/Saturn doldrums (10 million) to Gamecube (21 million), I'd call that expecting some skyrocketing to occur.

Guess it all hinges on Nintendo going for broke with the most obnoxiously in your face advertising every second to coincide with Mario games and a price drop I guess.
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You're creating definitions in order to make a claim that's neither foregone or particularly relevant.

It doesn't really matter if you think increasing sales by 300% is "skyrocketing" since the reality is such an increase from a tiny base is marginal at best. Gamecube level sales in the current market would not be, in any kind of reasonable sense, "good." Your subjective definition doesn't apply to common reasoning. They would be very few people who would consider gamecube sales to be the resounding success you're making it out to be.

You obviously think that it's foolish for someone to think it's at all possible for nintendo do substantially better than they are at the moment. That's just your way of using an ad hominem to attack anyone who disagrees rather than actually discuss anything of merit.
 
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jcm

Member
hiska-kun said:
Disappointing first day of sales for Mario & Luigi RPG 4 according to retailers's blogs (Azalyn, GamesMaya and Yosipooh).
But they're not worried because expect better results this weekend and the following weeks.
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What's the weather forecast for the weekend?
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
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Aquamarine

Member
Carpe Libertatem said:
It's like people have no idea how the Virtual Boy actually sold.
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The Wii U blew past the Virtual Boy's LTD sales in just its holiday season.

Compare Wii U's 709K launch sales to the Virtual Boy's 630K LTD sales (all figures in Famitsu).

And the Wii U, at 983K, has currently sold 1.56 times what the Virtual Boy ever managed.
That's WITH the Wii U being an absolute sales disaster.
 
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wrowa

Member
Glass Rebel said:
Inazuma Eleven debuted with 41,458 in MC, more than doubled its sales in 2 months until the anime started airing and went on to crack 400k over 2 years later. I don't think they'll be able to replicate its success but it shouldn't be hard to crack 150k.
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This time around there'll be half a year between the release of the game and the start of the anime, so it probably can be said with certainty that Youkai won't have Inazuma's legs.

But knowing Level-5 we can also assume with near certainty that they are going to release a Youkai expansion alongside the anime...

Pyscho_Mantis said:
ML RPG fans couldn't handle the heat lol.
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But even the Pokemon Center is empty! :(
 
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wrowa

Member
Aquamarine said:
The Wii U blew past the Virtual Boy's LTD sales in just its holiday season.

Compare Wii U's 709K launch sales to the Virtual Boy's 630K LTD sales (all figures in Famitsu).

And the Wii U, at 983K, has currently sold 1.56 times what the Virtual Boy ever managed.
That's WITH the Wii U being an absolute sales disaster.
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Well, it's not that easy, is it? Just comparing the pure numbers, you ignore the drastic increase of game budgets. Theoretically, the Virtual Boy could have been profitable with a relative low number of sales, since games were cheap to make. The Wii U on the other hand has to sell drastically more since there's otherwise no money to be made on games. If the Wii U would sell on par with the Virtual Boy, I would classify it as an even bigger flop than the VB ever was.

Of course, the amount of money involved is also the reason why Nintendo can't afford to simply abandon the console like they did with the Virtual Boy.
 
Honey Bunny

Honey Bunny

Member
Durante said:
That's actually, in a way, innovative. I think it's the first time a game includes real-time vocaloid audio generation. It always seemed like a good potential use of the technology to me.
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Right? It seems like a fresh take on the rhythm genre that I've never considered before. Or is owning the VITA just making me more susceptible to these low budget otaku games
 
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metalslimer

Member
Green Slime said:
Any proof of that?
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Well one could look at Game and Warios sales and conclude the casual audience won't care but it;s a pretty easy assumption. If the casual audience lost interest in touch generations on the much cheaper 3ds why is the wii _ series going to do anything. I still think the series can maybe do 300k per entry which is not horrible but is not going to move many units.
 
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Carpe Libertatem

Member
metalslimer said:
Well one could look at Game and Warios sales and conclude the casual audience won't care but it;s a pretty easy assumption. If the casual audience lost interest in touch generations on the much cheaper 3ds why is the wii _ series going to do anything. I still think the series can maybe do 300k per entry which is not horrible but is not going to move many units.
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Game and Wario is proof that the casual audience doesn't care about Wii ____?

:lol
 
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AyaisMUsikWhore

Member
JoeM86 said:
It was also really hot to the level of heat wave in Japan last week, and it came out in a holiday weekend where people were not in the streets. Even the Pokémon Centers were fairly empty and that seldom happens.

This has an effect on sales. I'm not saying this to spin but as an explanation. You need to factor in all the factors in order to make a determination.
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This is a Nintendo fanboy in a nutshell.

I can't believe what I just read. Just admit that Nintendo needs to bring more fire and call it a day. Damn, not even a Sony fanboy said anything like this when the Vita wasn't selling buttloads. This is just pitiful.
 
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wrowa

Member
metalslimer said:
Well one could look at Game and Warios sales and conclude the casual audience won't care but it;s a pretty easy assumption. If the casual audience lost interest in touch generations on the much cheaper 3ds why is the wii _ series going to do anything
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I don't think you can just compare those audiences. Something like Wii Sports was popular because it's been a fantastic pick up and play multiplayer game that people could play with everyone for an hour or two. That's still a type of game that can't be replicated on a smartphone or tablet.

However, Nintendo would need to be crazily inventive to get those people to buy a Wii U for a new Wii Sports. The tablet probably makes such a game only more complicated, which ruins the appeal Wii Sports had in the first place.
 
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Carpe Libertatem

Member
darkside31337 said:
How about Brain Age?
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That's certainly a better example (and I never necessarily disagreed that the Wii ___ audience is gone). Game and Wario, though, is not. It's humorous to see someone come to that conclusion when Wario Ware games never sold a whole lot - and certainly not to the mass market (way too weird for that)
 
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metalslimer

Member
Carpe Libertatem said:
Game and Wario is proof that the casual audience doesn't care about Wii ____?

:lol
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Well i said one could say that. Nintendoland is another example. But like i said the DS to 3ds dropoffs tell me the wii series will see massive declines. I certainly didn't expect game and wario to do huge numbers but i can tell you that game would have done much better on the wii and so would nintendoland.
 
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guek

Banned
I dunno, Wii U Sports has the best chance of doing decent. I think Wii Fit U is going to crash and burn hard though. It'll do about as well as a new plastic guitar game would.
 
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metalslimer

Member
guek said:
I dunno, Wii U Sports has the best chance of doing decent. I think Wii Fit U is going to crash and burn hard though. It'll do about as well as a new plastic guitar game would.
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To be honest with no madden or fifa they should put football and soccer in.
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
metalslimer said:
To be honest with no madden or fifa they should put football and soccer in.
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wii u has no madden,no ncaa, no fifa, no nba2k, no mlb2k, no pga and no nhl. they don't even have wwe this year.

basically they should put every sports game in it because there are zero actual sports game releases for the system.
 
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Kid Ying

Member
i think that from all &#65367;&#65353;&#65353;&#65343;&#65343;&#65343;&#65343;&#65343; stuff, party is the one with the biggest chances, since its just a party game with miis. if nintendo secured some of the public that made the first a sucess, it could do good. for sports i dunno and fit is already dead.
 
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StreetsAhead

Member
From the start I would like to say that Pikmin 3 undersold my expectations by 20K and the Wii U by about 15K - going by Famitsu numbers. In fact, Wii U is below what I considered the absolute minimum for it to be acceptable (25K).

I don't think the fact that it was a Saturday release on a long weekend should be entirely discounted, and I do think that next weeks numbers won't see as large of a drop as we'd expect to see otherwise. Especially, since those numbers will include 3 days off, instead of 2.

While I am disappointed, I do hope that, while the individual games may not boost the system that much, the weight of the titles coming out over the next six months could combine to push the system up above 10~15K per week, in an off week.

On another note, Youkai Watch did about what I was expecting, but it'll be interesting to see how it performs once the tie-in cartoon launches later in the year.
 
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