An easy prediction for the end of next gen: ALL top 5 selling consoles of all time will be Playstations
I've been a PC gamer for ages and I can tell you it has its fair share of fanboy wars like amd Vs nvidia on the gpu side and amd Vs intel on the CPU side of things... it seems no platform is completely free from fanboy crap.
Sony having 4 out of top 5 selling consoles of all time and we still have people think it was "luck" or because MS screwed X1 launch Lol.
An easy prediction for the end of next gen: ALL top 5 selling consoles of all time will be Playstations
He said console. Being able to hook to a TV never made PSP a console. Plus when Switch is done selling half will likely be the Lite model.I would be wary of the switch. It could end up in the top 5.
True, but it's nothing like "NV shipped only xxx GPUs this quarter and AMD yyy GPUs, suck it Jensen, NV is going down!!", because who gives a shit really... But the best and common part in all the fanboy wars out there is that the people who bet on the weakest horse always play the victim's card, they feel like the entire world is against them, the excuses and accusations they make are endless (and priceless), I'd really like to know what has to happen in someone's childhood, so when he grows up he decides to desperately attach himself to a brand or an item, and go fight an imaginary war for it, instead of getting an actual life and treating his hobby for what it is, just that, a hobby.
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how did you get that tag?True, but it's nothing like "NV shipped only xxx GPUs this quarter and AMD yyy GPUs, suck it Jensen, NV is going down!!", because who gives a shit really... But the best and common part in all the fanboy wars out there is that the people who bet on the weakest horse always play the victim's card, they feel like the entire world is against them, the excuses and accusations they make are endless (and priceless), I'd really like to know what has to happen in someone's childhood, so when he grows up he decides to desperately attach himself to a brand or an item, and go fight an imaginary war for it, instead of getting an actual life and treating his hobby for what it is, just that, a hobby.
Sony having 4 out of top 5 selling consoles of all time and we still have people think it was "luck" or because MS screwed X1 launch Lol.
An easy prediction for the end of next gen: ALL top 5 selling consoles of all time will be Playstations
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Those profits all up in the face! Sony is beasting and are top of food chain in terms of console companies. They will sell at a decent hardware loss hopefully and won't blink an eye because all tht services and software profit. Now I'm starting to think ps5 won't go over 450 Instead of 500. As consumers, we are lucky, they are going to invest in alot more new games and in the gaming future.
Maybe the digital PS5 will be $400. No way the disc PS5 will be less than $500 though.
I previously guessed 450/500 now I wouldn't be surprised if it's 400/450. We shall see. Still think 500 but you never know.
PS5, WH1000XM4 and X900H will bring great Q3 for SonyImagine this Black Friday.
F2play makes a huge difference especially if your part of the Fortnite, Pubg and Warzone crowd. As its free you don't need to sub to PS+. If it was a requirement you could increase the subs by 10-15 million easy.They're a market yeah, but I can't see them taking subs from traditional GTA:O, GT:S, COD/BF players, FUT/HUT, myTeam players for example. Plus, I hardly play onine and I still have a PS+ membership so it's not a convincing measurement. 0.4 attach rate might be growth though - from an even lower number (e.g. 0.25). I'm just surprised it's that low.
2017 it seemed to be an attach rate of 0.34, so it was lower and that was up from 2016
PlayStation Plus subscribers hit 26.4m, up 27% YOY - MCV/DEVELOP
The number of paid PlayStation Plus subscriptions rose to 26.4m in 2016, Sony has confirmed, showing a growth of 27 per cent since 2015. - MCV/DEVELOPwww.mcvuk.com
And if you do some basic math, it looks like 2016 was about 20million subs from 53.5million sales which actually trends a little higher on the attach rate at 0.36. So it looks like the attach rate is growing albeit slowly.
PS4 has been selling at $299 unless a special promotion(Black Friday). If they bring a new superslim model and price it $199 in its 1st year and $150 the next, it will sell a decent amount. Especially if they target markets like Brazil and India etc.Because the PS3 was too late and too expensive. I don't see PS5 being late or too expensive.
Also don't forget PS4 has 100+ million userbase. Developers and publishers won't just give that up overnight. Also smaller developers aren't going to just make games for a new platform with just a few million users to sell to. They will target both. It will be financially better for 3rd parties to develop for both. Crossgen engines like Unreal 5 will help with thisI didn't think about it that way, that is true. Too tunnel-visioned on first-party titles.
Dude, how fucking tone deaf can you be? Why are YOU so obsessed with sales and pretending you don't get why people are obsessed with sales? Either you are trolling or a complete moron with zero self awarenessOut of 110 mill consoles sold only 18 mill worth of first party’s sold? That’s not a lot when you look at the install base.
don’t get me wrong I own quite a few of the first party games but it shows that they could of stillsold that amount of titles even if they only sold 40 mill consoles
I GUARANTEE you that it will not be $500.Maybe the digital PS5 will be $400. No way the disc PS5 will be less than $500 though.
PS5, WH1000XM4 and X900H will bring great Q3 for Sony
I disagree. I've gotten different experiences with all of their 1st party games and when they make something like Dreams, Concrete Genie or Astro's Playroom for some reason those don't count lolI am obviously exaggerating a little bit for effect, I am not saying that they're completely the same.
But they sorta exist in the same bubble if that makes sense.
I also think that Spiderman does too, the base gameplay and mechanics are very similar or even the same. Ratchet and Clank is one that actually does feel different so I'll give you that but also mostly in tone and visuals. But that's honestly enough to make it stand out.
I'd just like to see more games with stylized characters and designs, and as much as I actually prefer third person myself maybe some first person games too.
Like imagine for example a game like Nier Automata, Yakuza or maybe even something a bit unorthodox for consoles like a Diablo styled game or a RTS game.
What's especially annoying about it is that the Japanese already do this well, and Sony is a Japanese company. And yet they don't take advantage of this at all.
Sony games sorta feel like the Marvel movies to me, big blockbusters very noticably aimed at the mass market where everything is shiny and fairly tropey.
But I think that audiences are receptive to other things too.
Right now it just sorta feels like their first party studios are all working with the same fundamental building blocks with all of their games and it's kinda boring imo.
As much as I loved the RE2 remake, part of me was kinda disappointed about the gameplay changes for this reason too.
Imo the remake of RE1 still holds up, and it'd be really cool to see a big budget game do something cool with that.
But we just keep getting games that sorta play the same.
Having a genuine conversation and get that thrown at meDude, how fucking tone deaf can you be? Why are YOU so obsessed with sales and pretending you don't get why people are obsessed with sales? Either you are trolling or a complete moron with zero self awareness
Sony needs to release a PS4 super slim and $200 to sell more PS4 after the PS5 release.
Well, the 112M are from June 31st and the successor will be released around 5 months and a half after that, so they will sell some extra millions more.It would be interesting to know what % of a platforms total unit sales happen after the release of a successor platform.
10% - 11M => total 123M
20% - 22M => total 134M
25% - 28M => total 140M
35% - 39M => total 151M
Around 25% sounds like a good ballpark to my intuition.
Can one of the people who voted 'Yes' explain themselves? 150m is literally impossible to reach.
February: Yakuza 5, Dreams
March: Nioh 2, Persona 5 Royal
April: Predator, Sakura Wars, FFVII Remake
June: Last of Us 2
July: Ghost of Sushi
When you have a consistent stream of variety titles like this on top of the multiplats like Doom Eternal, CoD Warzone, e.t.c. its no wonder many people are buying PS4, a seven year old console. Sony didn't make the same mistake as 360 which dropped the ball on its later lifespan, too cocky from its earlier success.
150 million ain't happening.
120m will happen but no way 150m.
Good for them, I suppose, but it won't reach 150mil.
All in all, 38 million in 3 years could still be possible
I think it all depends on pricing. PS3 tanked after PS4 because it only went down to $219. It never became a bargain.Nearly as many units as Xbox One sold in its lifetime AFTER PS5 releases? Zero chance. 125 million is likely the ceiling.
It doesn't matter whether the money comes from PS4, it can be used to subside PS5 price and big AAA games for it. Besides, bigger install base, better deals with thirds for exclusive content.But its coming to the end of life and people still obsessed with sales, the games are coming to and end of life on PS4 to as sony invested in ps5 now.
just buy the games and enjoy them, i personally just find the sales threads a bit bizarre as if all these gamers have shares in sony or summit
how is this not good for consumers? If you owned a PS4 this year, you've been seeing great new releases every monthGreat for Sony, but this kind of domination overall not great for consumers.
Of course it's a reflection of how shitty MS has done; but hopefully they can gain some momentum back so we aren't stuck with a console market with only Sony/Nintendo.
And if they do gain momentum back it will because they offer great value/games.. so win win for everyone.
But having a conversation about that here seems nye impossible; everyone just cheer-leading like they won some competition.
Specially when your profit is bigger than you main competitor's entire revenue.Awesome results.
This is the important part :
Over $5.63B Revenue and $1.152B Profit between April-June 2020 (Q1 FY20)
So, PROFIT! But revenue is important i guess. /s
They will probably price the ps5 too high and then offer the ps4 at a much lower price and change their "generations" spin once they see how well the ps4 continues to sell. All the "next gen only" talk will go out the window and we will continue to see a ton of cross gen titles for the next 2 years plus.
I don't think it'll reach PS2 numbers if only because PS2 was still such a strong value proposition after the 360 and PS3 launches. Final Fantasy XII in 2006 and God of War II in 2007 were among the best titles on the system.
I don't think Sony has the will to do a super slim but if Lockhart is a thing that Microsoft pushes hard, it might make sense to go for it and see what happens.