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Activision was briefed on Nintendo’s Switch 2 last year
The Switch 2 could be similar in performance to the PS4.
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Activision executives met with Nintendo to discuss plans for a next-generation Switch, which is described as closer to PS4 / Xbox One performance
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Cert.in.Death
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Everybody wants some of the Mario
killatopak
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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This is old news. It's even the first post in the similar threads category: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/acti...se-to-ps4-xbox-one-in-terms-of-power.1658294/
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This is old news. It's even the first post in the similar threads category: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/acti...se-to-ps4-xbox-one-in-terms-of-power.1658294/
Yup, but given recent thread filled with zealots claiming Switch 2 will be more powerful than Ps5 and Series X, I feel a reality check is probably warranted. Still I guess they could have bumped the thread you mention.
alucard0712_rus
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I think PS4 is the highest anchor.
And if it has DLSS everything changes.
Mister Wolf
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Monolith Soft can do a lot with PS4 level power.
Rocco Schiavone
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Strange a few days ago we got the switch 2.0 can play the Matrix demo news.
Better Raytracing than PS5/XSX, DLSS 3.0.
Now It's again PS4 level??
Better Raytracing than PS5/XSX, DLSS 3.0.
Now It's again PS4 level??
Buggy Loop
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PS4 teraflops with modern Ampere feature-set and non Jaguar CPUs, DLSS over checkerboard and it's easy to make comparisons to PS5. A match? No, comparable? Why not. Even Ratchet and Clank on Steam deck can be comparable to PS5 and looks nice.
What have you seen on PS5 that is so far off PS4? Honest question. It's the most diminishing return gen ever in console history. IO management and SSD is basically what separates the gens. Now a few games are starting to use ray tracing as a clear cut from PS4. Guess what Nvidia excels at.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Because this is old news and misleading at that. Not sure why The Verge decided to repost it...Strange a few days ago we got the switch 2.0 can play the Matrix demo news.
Better Raytracing than PS5/XSX, DLSS 3.0.
Now It's again PS4 level??
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Buggy Loop
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TFlops mean fuck all when the architecture changed so much between gens
Ampere feature set vs Maxwell is like comparing a McLaren P1 vs an American Dragster on the Nurburgring. Even if you would match Teraflops, it wouldn't be a match.
But as a point of reference, Snapdragon gen 2 which will be used in phones, Quest 3, Pico 5, cheap products basically, has 2.4 TFlops. A +30% gain in "TFlops" over base PS4. But has much more leverage as a chipset with RT + ML and modern feature sets compared to old PS4. I would assume that since Qualcomm approached Nintendo for that chipset, that Nvidia's solution is at the very least equivalent or better.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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There's no new info though, just a repost of old information. The info from the Eurogamer and VGC leaks are newer and more specific (e.g. their sources saw live footage of the matrix demo running on SW2 targeted hardware)
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"closer to performance of PS4" is the statement. In spite of everything, inclusive to the benefits you mention, that's the quote on Switch 2. Personally, I'm more than fine with that. I do agree with your assessment on the diminishing returns of current-gen, and obviously Nvidia's tech advantage with DLSS....
JackMcGunns
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Although I do agree that Nintendo will be able to put out some amazing stuff with the power of a PS4, heck we actually dreamed of it and I myself made comments like: "Imagine Nintendo franchises with the power of the PS4!" and that wasn't too long ago. Now that dream can finally come true, but there was a time when Nintendo was on the cutting edge, and now they seem to be on their own cycle, which is disappointing. It's just how a lot of us feel.
We can ALL say "No need for X technology", but it's wrong to think that way, in the N64 days, it was trilinear mipmap interpolation, it's what gave the N64 games their signature look. We couldn't been happy with a blocky texture PS1 style Mario 64, but we're ALL much happier with the smooth, non blocky textures (Albeit low res/blurry) that we got with the Nintendo 64 thanks to it's more advanced tech.
Kataploom
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We came from "looking like PS5" to the great misunderstood "as powerful as PS5" then to "More powerful than PS5". Some of you can't sleep overthinking on Nintendo lol.
Next Switch will have a GPU minimum around 2TF and max around 4TF with better architecture... Will also have a way better CPU and probably better RAM. It's gonna be way more powerful than PS4 when used properly. Don't think PS4 was really powerful at launch, it was just a netbook with beefy GPU.
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It's not that old. This was the hardware Nintendo was telling Devs to plan for, effective December 2022. Unless Nintendo decided to go back to the drawing board, engineer an entirely different new super console in the following 8 months, tell everyone to ignore the December memo and assure them they still plan tomake the same planned ship date... I mean anything is possible. They say aliens are real now. I would (in my totally unqualified opinion) have to conclude the hardware was pretty locked down by then and won't stray too much. However, as Buggy said, with DLSS and other modern CPU advantages maybe you get something that performs better than base PS4.
However iit is notable Activision did not reference PS4 Pro or Xbox One X as their SW2 performance comparison. It's the OGs. The question is, did they mean DLSS and modern CPU will help them reach PS4 level performance, or is it Base PS4 performance plus all the secret sauce on top. I read it as the former, but I know nothing
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Again that is an old quote from Kotick which was deemed misleading at the time of the initial report. Since this is the same regurgitated old info there's noting new to discuss about other than the same assumption that was made by Kotick "eons" ago in internet age terms.
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