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AMD Confirms Zen 4 Powered Ryzen 7000 Raphael CPUs For Desktops In 2022, Dragon Range & Phoenix APUs For Laptops In 2023

tusharngf

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During its Q1 2022 Financial Results, AMD provided its latest roadmap which provides an update on its roadmap plans for 2022-2023. It looks like AMD's Zen 4 core architecture will play a crucial part in powering not just one but at least three client platforms including Raphael for enthusiast desktops, Dragon Range for Extreme Gaming Laptops, and Phoenix for Thin & Light laptops.




AMD Zen 4 Powered Raphael CPUs For Enthusiast Desktops In 2022

The first platform to get the AMD Zen 4 treatment will be Raphael. The 5nm Zen 4-powered chips will be aimed at the enthusiast desktop segment based around the brand new AM5 platform that offers both DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 functionality and with TDPs starting at 65W and above. The Raphael desktop CPU platform is expected to launch in 2H 2022


AMD Ryzen 'Zen 4' Desktop CPU Expected Features:

  • Brand New Zen 4 CPU Cores (IPC / Architectural Improvements)
  • Brand New TSMC 5nm process node with 6nm IOD
  • Support on AM5 Platform With LGA1718 Socket
  • Dual-Channel DDR5 Memory Support
  • 28 PCIe Lanes (CPU Exclusive)
  • 65-120W TDPs (Upper Bound Range ~170W)

AMD Mainstream Desktop CPU Generations Comparison:​

AMD CPU FamilyCodenameProcessor ProcessProcessors Cores/Threads (Max)TDPsPlatformPlatform ChipsetMemory SupportPCIe SupportLaunch
Ryzen 1000Summit Ridge14nm (Zen 1)8/1695WAM4300-SeriesDDR4-2677Gen 3.02017
Ryzen 2000Pinnacle Ridge12nm (Zen +)8/16105WAM4400-SeriesDDR4-2933Gen 3.02018
Ryzen 3000Matisse7nm (Zen 2)16/32105WAM4500-SeriesDDR4-3200Gen 4.02019
Ryzen 5000Vermeer7nm (Zen 3)16/32105WAM4500-SeriesDDR4-3200Gen 4.02020
Ryzen 5000 3DWarhol?7nm (Zen 3D)8/16105WAM4500-SeriesDDR4-3200Gen 4.02022
Ryzen 7000Raphael5nm (Zen 4)16/32?105-170WAM5600-SeriesDDR5-5200Gen 5.02022
Ryzen 7000 3DRaphael5nm (Zen 4)16/32?105-170WAM5600-SeriesDDR5-5200Gen 5.02023
Ryzen 8000Granite Ridge3nm (Zen 5)?TBATBAAM5700-Series?DDR5-5600?Gen 5.02024-2025?

Source: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000...e-phoenix-cpus-apus-desktop-laptop-confirmed/
 

kikkis

Member
I have 7300hq based laptop currently. Might consider getting new one based on phoenix apu. On the other hand I am still pretty happy with performance of this chip for things like web dev.

Charts show rdna2 based igpu with 6nm but that doesn't make sense given its igpu and previous mention of rdna3.
 

Xyphie

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Charts show rdna2 based igpu with 6nm but that doesn't make sense given its igpu and previous mention of rdna3.

Their open source commits suggests Phoenix is RDNA3 and Raphael/Dragon Range is RDNA2. Which makes sense as Phoenix is a monolithic 5nm APU coming out later and Raphael will be a MCM with a barebones-only-good-for-spreadsheets GPU on the 6nm IOD.
 

Bo_Hazem

Gold Dealer
I think maybe at the enthusiast level. Regular builds I believe will still be fine up to 850w.

I read somewhere that some states in the US now limit your PC build, and that's before this 900w GPU insanity. If this spreads across the US I think such GPU's will be taxed through the roof and will only be for industrial/corporate usage. Maybe it's time for a more efficient solution like Apple's approach with M1 chips and ARM.
 

Dream-Knife

Member
I read somewhere that some states in the US now limit your PC build, and that's before this 900w GPU insanity. If this spreads across the US I think such GPU's will be taxed through the roof and will only be for industrial/corporate usage. Maybe it's time for a more efficient solution like Apple's approach with M1 chips and ARM.
That's just California, and that only applies to pre-builts.

Pretty much any crazy law in the US is from California, or the 9th circuit.
 

mitchman

Gold Member
I read somewhere that some states in the US now limit your PC build, and that's before this 900w GPU insanity. If this spreads across the US I think such GPU's will be taxed through the roof and will only be for industrial/corporate usage. Maybe it's time for a more efficient solution like Apple's approach with M1 chips and ARM.
Only pre-builts and it's not really a big issue, there are different stages based on how high-end the build is. Probably won't have any significant issues, except manufacturers must certify the builds.
 
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KungFucius

Member
I might jump in when the 7000 3D chips drop. If AMD keeps the AM5 platform around for a while I might be able to slot in a Zen 5 or even Zen 6 before retiring the mobo.
 

SenaxxNL

Member
I'm not sure why everybody believes NVIDIA will be putting out a 900W GPU. This was a full AD102SKU 48G 24Gbpis GDDR2X. This is probably not a consumer version. Rumors say the 4080 is to be expected around 350W.

 
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