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[IrishNinja]

If you want a better rep for women, buy games that you perceive to have better rep for women. There's definitely enough horn dogs out there for the "sexy" reps of women to exist. You just have to deal with it, in a free society anyways.

this panel right here - and femfreq in general - is doing exactly that, dealing with it

I defended Carl as not human garbage, but that's about it. I dislike how progressives jump to dehumanize everyone that disagrees with them.

was that when you were saying anita's full of shit, or

also, it's an apt term, see below:

I'm a Jew living in Austria. I've been to several concentration camps to see where parts of my family was murdered.

But: Carl and his cronies ARE human garbage. They are the lowest of the low. They thrive off of being parasites who literally get paid thousands of dollars for making a coordinated hate campaign against people who speak out for equal rights of women.

Also even if they're not violent themselves or outright inciting violence, they are the ones fueling people into doing it regardless with their hateful rhetoric and fearmongering, not to mention the incessant hypocrisy.

These people do not deserve any respect, defense or platform to spout their shit.

excellent post right here, thank you for it

Except when you ask a feminist what they want, it always comes down to some form of socialism. Any women that disagrees with them is hated on, telling me they don't care about women, but only their silly ideology.

can you even identify a feminist you've engaged here or is the narrative strong enough without one

 

[Frozenprince]

Account since 2007.

You been sitting on this shit since W was in office.

That's dedication.

 

[BajiBoxer]

I don't know what a Voat or bingo are d;

Everyone here needs to youtube Thomas Sowell. You poor bastards.

This explains so much lol.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Hahaha all you see is race/sex. If I could pick anyone to be president it would be him. Possibly the wisest man on the planet.

That is pretty much the irony of the right wing. Projection projection projection is the name of the game, it doesn't matter what it is.

You are the victim, your enemies are the race baiters.

You know a black uncle tom, great. That doesn't legitimize your illogical viewpoints.

 

[nesmar]

"Ignore it! That'll make it go away!"

What a weak shit argument, like everything else you've posted.

So your solution is to use force to create the vision of society you prefer? Many different types of ideas exist, we have to coexist. So yes, ignore the media you don't like.

 

[Ponn]

Good God, just ignore the trolls. No need to dogpile on them and give them a voice. You guys just derailed this thread. Good job.

Their voice never changes though, its the same broken record every time and they never get it. Thats why its funny they always add in buillshit qualifiers like "I'm not supporting Sargon/alt right/GG etc etc BUTTTT" because its the exact same verbatim rhetoric those sources spout so you know damn fucking well they are lying their asses off. It's funny watching them squirm thinking they are bright genius bulbs pulling one over the libtards or some bullshit. This is just the monthly GAF cleanse where the Anita thread brings them out like cockroaches. Something about Anita pushes them over the edge from knowing how to be careful not get banned into account suicide mode.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Except when you ask a feminist what they want, it always comes down to some form of socialism. Any women that disagrees with them is hated on, telling me they don't care about women, but only their silly ideology.

Defense against sexual crimes and assault being defined as socialist is prettttty bad for capitalism.

We do have a sexual predator in the White House...

 

[Basketball]

Being annoyed that some developers are having to change/adapt the depiction of fictional pixels to western audiences is one thing and I think it's fine to have an issue with that.


But actually harassing real people and calling for them to be raped, killed etc is messed up
period. I mean really do these people not have sisters, mothers. I don't follow all this twitter, youtube drama but still it's not hard to be a decent human.

 

[Ozigizo]

Please go outside

Nah, he's too busy being angry at communists and women.

 

[Famassu]

But you can't make people accountable if they don't incite violence personally. Call the perpetrators/killers what you like.

But they do. Countless of people have hoped for Anita to be raped or worse. People who follow and are encouraged to act like assholes because of Sargon and friends being so hyper-negative against equality.

Sargon & the like rile these people up. They are the ones who create this environment of hostility towards Anita & co by misconstruing her words, making up over the top allegations about how feminazis will ruin the world if they aren't stopped etc. in their videos. They are at least partly responsible (like, not LEGALLY responsible, but they share some of the blame in things getting this bad) for breeding a fanbase filled with contempt & hate towards people like Anita.

 

[RumbleHumble]

So your solution is to use force to create the vision of society you prefer? Many different types of ideas exist, we have to coexist. So yes, ignore the media you don't like.

Yet you don't seem interested in taking your own advice here. If Gaf is an echo chamber, why not let it fester while you stare on, happily knowing you're so much beyond us?

 

[fester]

Of course I don't agree with that shit but that reply is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. Just labeling everyone who disagrees as racists or sexists.

The fuck? We label people who say racists and sexist things as racist and sexist. If you have an opinion that can be shared and doesn't include those things, then by all means, let's have a discussion. But you don't get to be a bigot and a professional harasser and then hide behind a shield of "fair discourse."

 

[IrishNinja]

So your solution is to use force to create the vision of society you prefer? Many different types of ideas exist, we have to coexist. So yes, ignore the media you don't like.

hands-down my favorite attribute of libertarian/austrian school of thought folks is the lack of time for either economics or history

Being annoyed that some developers are having to change/adapt the depiction of fictional pixels to western audiences is one thing

won't someone please think of the boob sliders

 

[TestOfTide]

Check my post history, I barely exist here, and I probably won't post again for a long while (enjoy). I just wanted to know what sweet games are out there.

I mean if you INSIST:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=184991048&highlight=#post184991048

What did you mean by this? Are you denying the fact that there are social factors to sexuality?

 

[Hockeymac18]

Good god...when will this GamerGate shit die?

I'm so tired of hearing about these shitheads, and sorry for the people affected by them.

 

[nesmar]

That is pretty much the irony of the right wing. Projection projection projection is the name of the game, it doesn't matter what it is.

You are the victim, your enemies are the race baiters.

You know a black uncle tom, great. That doesn't legitimize your illogical viewpoints.

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

 

[Ozigizo]

So your solution is to use force to create the vision of society you prefer? Many different types of ideas exist, we have to coexist. So yes, ignore the media you don't like.

Sure. Empathy shouldn't be a political view.

 

[nesmar]

I mean if you INSIST:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=184991048&highlight=#post184991048

What did you mean by this? Are you denying the fact that there are social factors to sexuality?

The theory that everyone is a blank slate and "human nature" can be socially engineered out of us is one of the most abhorrent beliefs of the left. Culture matters, but so does biology.

 

[Toxi]

I think Nesmar's actually a libertarian and not your garden-variety alt-right loonie.

You gotta treat 'em differently.

 

[Frozenprince]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

Lol there's a pretty wide chasm between what Sowell preaches and socialism.

You're pretty damn hung up on "socialism" too. Don't know why. And Sowell does have self hate ib him. Read some of his books on race and read how he talks of his own people.

 

[Nepenthe]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist.

So is using a black man as your shield.

 

[IrishNinja]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

i know you seem to think there's just crying eagle free markets and socialism in the spectrum, but it's possible the uncle tom comment was a result of the awful racism quote you've ignored a few times now from your boy there

The theory that everyone is a blank slate and "human nature" can be socially engineered out of us is one of the most abhorrent beliefs of the left. Culture matters, but so does biology.

oh, this is gonna get good
let's hear more on "human nature"

 

[RumbleHumble]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

But I thought we're dealing with a market place of ideas here man! Who gives anyone the right to determine what is right or wrong outside the market place of ideas?

 

[TumblingHippo]

I think Nesmar's actually a libertarian and not your garden-variety alt-right loonie.

If you call him by his reverse name, Ramsen, does that break the curse and make him go away?

 

[ScientificPizza]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

Why are you talking about Socalism so much

Feminism and equality isn't inherently socialist

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom might be a little hyperbolic but his views on racism and wealth distribution are stupid and ridiculous and also bad and wrong and dumb

The theory that everyone is a blank slate and "human nature" can be socially engineered out of us is one of the most abhorrent beliefs of the left. Culture matters, but so does biology.

*Abhorrent*!!!!!!!!

 

[Mael]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

Thomas Sowell isn't an uncle tom for espousing a different viewpoint, he's an uncle tom because he's basically participating in the continuing oppression and subjugation of people sharing his skin color.
Lay off youtube and open a book or something from time to time.

 

[Frozenprince]

I mean when I want to know about racial Ills in America, I know MY first choice is an economist.

It's why Alan Greenspan dictates all my views.

 

[Haly]

I think Nesmar's actually a libertarian and not your garden-variety alt-right loonie.

You gotta treat 'em differently.

Mild disdain vs extreme disdain?

 

[Red Arremer]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

I don't think you really understand what "socialism" means.
Equal rights for everyone doesn't have anything to do with socialism. Socialism is an economical/political system based on the community being the regulation. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's portrayal or black people not wanting to get murdered by the police.

 

[nesmar]

Mild disdain vs extreme disdain?

I am a libertarian (former progressive)

 

[Rayis]

I think Nesmar's actually a libertarian and not your garden-variety alt-right loonie.

You gotta treat 'em differently.

Still a terrible ideology to follow tbh

 

[boiled goose]

Of course I don't agree with that shit but that reply is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. Just labeling everyone who disagrees as racists or sexists.

Ummmm wat?

If you think women should be harrased for whatever reason, then you are a sexist.

If you think people of different races deserve different treatment then you are a racist.

The labels are apt!

Why are you so afraid of the label if it applies? If someone has those views, they should at the very least be honest about them.

As always, it's bigots who say how they really think in private but then cower under scrutiny.

 

[ScientificPizza]

I am a libertarian (former progressive)

BINGO

 

[BravesCountry]

I don't think you really understand what "socialism" means.
Equal rights for everyone doesn't have anything to do with socialism. Socialism is an economical/political system based on the community being the regulation. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's portrayal or black people not wanting to get murdered by the police.

But YouTube!

 

[Inuhanyou]

Calling Thomas Sowell an uncle tom for espousing a different opinion is pretty racist. Any black person or women that doesn't believe socialism is the answer is an uncle tom/internal misogynist. Maybe you're just wrong.

He's an uncle tom not for a dissenting view. He is an uncle tom for generalizing everyone who argues against racism as racist.

The perfect fox news black host to tell white people they arent wrong for shutting down debate about real racial problems in America.

 

[nesmar]

I don't think you really understand what "socialism" means.
Equal rights for everyone doesn't have anything to do with socialism. Socialism is an economical/political system based on the community being the regulation. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's portrayal or black people not wanting to get murdered by the police.

Equal rights or equal outcome? I'm for equal rights.

 

[RumbleHumble]

I don't think you really understand what "socialism" means.
Equal rights for everyone doesn't have anything to do with socialism. Socialism is an economical/political system based on the community being the regulation. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's portrayal or black people not wanting to get murdered by the police.

I guess ideas like "all men are created equal" is pretty socialist after all. And there is nothing more evil than socialism. Especially in the marketplace of ideas where everything is allowed. Except anything that could be socialist. That needs to burn.

 

[Mael]

I am a libertarian (former progressive)

You're giving a pretty bad name to both with your arguments here.

 

[HStallion]

I am a libertarian (former progressive)

Ahh this explains a lot. That Driver's License you required to have must be like wearing a scarlet letter.

 

[Ponn]

I think Nesmar's actually a libertarian and not your garden-variety alt-right loonie.

You gotta treat 'em differently.

Libertarian will let the neo-nazis, racist bigots burn you just the same so no difference. As long as it doesn't tax them or infringe on their right to be bigots and racists they don't give a shit.

 

[IrishNinja]

Feminism and equality isn't inherently socialist

it's a very specific strawman and you musn't look at it too hard

Of course I don't agree with that shit but that reply is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. Just labeling everyone who disagrees as racists or sexists.

sometimes the shoe fits, b

Libertarian will let the neo-nazis, racist bigots burn you just the same so no difference. As long as it doesn't tax them or infringe on their right to be bigots and racists they don't give a shit.

something something unintended consequences of doing anything instead of "letting the market decide"

 

[BravesCountry]

Equal rights or equal outcome? I'm for equal rights.

Do you believe that racism is a real problem? Your wisest man in the world doesn't.

 

[nesmar]

He's an uncle tom not for a dissenting view. He is an uncle tom for generalizing everyone who argues against racism as racist.

The perfect fox news black host to tell white people they arent wrong for shutting down debate about real racial problems in America.

You really have to give him a chance before judging him like that. If you are so correct, embolden your correctness by educating yourself on the BEST counter arguments to your beliefs.

 

[Frozenprince]

Equal rights or equal outcome? I'm for equal rights.

And I'm sure you think constitutional protections are the devil.

 

[Dynasty]

Lay off youtube and open a book or something from time to time.

Careful with that logic, there are plenty of books that could dig him deeper into the rabbit hole. He may reply and quote Mein Kampf.

 

[Inuhanyou]

.

 

[Red Arremer]

Equal rights or equal outcome? I'm for equal rights.

Outcome?
If you typo'd and meant income, then that's part of equal rights. Women or PoC earning inherently less due to the minority they belong to is discriminatory and anyone who stands for equal rights should be well-aware of that.

 

[Nepenthe]

You really have to give him a chance before judging him like that.

There are no chances to be given to people who believe racism in America is on life support.

 

[HStallion]

You really have to give him a chance before judging him like that. If you are so correct, embolden your correctness by educating yourself on the BEST counter arguments to your beliefs.

What the fuck does this even mean? Embolden your correctness? Maybe he should embiggen his cromulence next.

 

[Phocks]

Ummmm wat?

If you think women should be harrased for whatever reason, then you are a sexist.

If you think people of different races deserve different treatment then you are a racist.

The labels are apt!

Why are you so afraid of the label if it applies? If someone has those views, they should at the very least be honest about them.

As always, it's bigots who say how they really think in private but then cower under scrutiny.

So who exactly has expressed these views?