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Battlefield 2042 Promises 'Years' of Updates, Acknowledges Fan Complaints
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EDMIX
Member
I disagree actually.
The maps imho simply are not the worst issue here, even if thats fixed, you still have to deal with the whole specialist thing which I think is the most radical change. Having large maps isn't uncommon in BF and those changes I think will be good don't get me wrong, it needs to change ,simply that I do't believe its the biggest underlining issue as watch them fix those maps this year and the game still is recieved poorly, much more needs to be corrected.
Gray area and I don't recall them ever having some date or something. To my understanding, Season Pass stuff is more like WHEN it comes they get it, not that a exact hard date is set or something odd like that.
You'd have to provide something to support that claim as I'm 99% sure, a company like EA is not fucking giving a hard date and selling something based on a date of something promised, 3rd parties like EA, Ubisoft etc never get into weird traps like that legally lol Like...really fucking unlikely. I'd be shocked if any Gold or Ultimate is like "on this date, this will come" or something like that.
So....expansions, DLC etc get delayed all the time, I've yet to see a single lawsuit based on a season pass based on this, the season pass is WHEN the content comes it will be free or something, not that a specific date is "promised"
So I'm going to have to call bullshit on that as it sound rather odd and unlikely they or any major publisher would promise a date by buying Gold or Ultimate for content. they know things get delayed too bud, why would they legally promise such a unrealistic thing based on the nature of software? So I'm not saying its not a shitty thing, simply to take seriously the claim of "false advertising" or a "promise" we need hard facts vs your assumption on what was stated, promised etc.
"Year 1 Pass: 4 new specialists (1 per season), 4 battle passes (1 per season) and 3 epic skin bundles."
From the Amazon listing I see for Gold and Ultimate. None of that states when any of that shit is coming and no promise is even made that it would come in some timeline as even saying "Year 1 Pass" isn't even enough legally to argue that a promise of a exact date is being made or something, second, we still have a large amount of months before its even 1 year even if someone wanted to argue that.
Only way I'd see this as really wrong, is if they never gave that content at all, never gave refunds or something like that, but based on DICE's history of support, I'm doubtful you'll not see that content, that might be the only thing more sure about this is that you'll get updates, you get post launch support (if its any good remains to be seen lol)
Amazon.com: Battlefield 2042 Ultimate - Steam PC [Online Game Code] : Everything Else
Buy Battlefield 2042 Ultimate - Steam PC [Online Game Code]: Read Everything Else Reviews - Amazon.com
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Buy Battlefield™ 2042 – PC – EA
Battlefield 2042 is a first-person shooter that marks the return to the iconic all-out warfare of the franchise. Utilize a cutting-edge arsenal in immersive multiplayer battles on maps set in both open battlegrounds and close-quarter maps. Choose your class, rally your squad, and fight through...
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I honestly want great things for BF as I have spent a ton of hours in some of the earlier games.
They just rubbed me wrong with some of their excuses and getting mad at fan threatening to close down Reddit so they have some work to do to earn back my trust.
I loved BF and its the only reason I keep picking on them in some of these posts because I care.
If I didn't care about the series I wouldn't even be in these threads
And I believe they have 400 fixes in the works just hope that doesn't cause 200 more issues
ymoc
Member
I think everyone in here loves Battlefield, but let's be realistic. This has been nothing less than a colossal fuck-up by Dice. It's already been half a year since launch and they are yet to fix even the most basic bugs that have plagued gamers since launch. All these things should never have happened with a full retail price AAA product that isn't a fucking early-access.
Anyone kidding themselves that they are still working on content for this game are delusional. They've abandoned this steaming pile of turd, cause they know it is an actual steaming pile of turd. But they just can't come out and say it cause they already sold all the season passes. They're even lying to people on Twitter, saying that "everyone is still working on this game".
EVERYONE?! So what has EVERYONE done in the last 6 months?
Let's count:
0 maps.
0 weapons.
0 vehicles.
Let's sum this up:
0+0+0=0
A team of 500+ people has managed to produce exactly 0 content in half a year. I am speechless.
"We got you fam"
"Love letter to the fans."
"Ahead of schedule."
"We're ditching campaign to focus all our resources on the multiplayer."
I have had 2042 uninstalled since December and there's nothing that can bring me back.
Fuck EA and Fuck Dice.
Anyone kidding themselves that they are still working on content for this game are delusional. They've abandoned this steaming pile of turd, cause they know it is an actual steaming pile of turd. But they just can't come out and say it cause they already sold all the season passes. They're even lying to people on Twitter, saying that "everyone is still working on this game".
EVERYONE?! So what has EVERYONE done in the last 6 months?
Let's count:
0 maps.
0 weapons.
0 vehicles.
Let's sum this up:
0+0+0=0
A team of 500+ people has managed to produce exactly 0 content in half a year. I am speechless.
"We got you fam"
"Love letter to the fans."
"Ahead of schedule."
"We're ditching campaign to focus all our resources on the multiplayer."
I have had 2042 uninstalled since December and there's nothing that can bring me back.
Fuck EA and Fuck Dice.
Frank Horrigan
Banned
There are a few IP's under the ownership of EA that have taken a similar path as BF has recently, with similar promises issued by EA.
Is it time to add another corpse to the ditch? (In reference to the EA meme)
Is it time to add another corpse to the ditch? (In reference to the EA meme)
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
BATTLEFIELD 2042 UPDATE #4.0
Introducing VoIP functionality, balance changes, bug fixes, and Quality of Life improvements
www.ea.com
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
New patch brings in voice chat. Only took them half a year. LOL.
Xmas sales always the biggest priority!
Xmas sales always the biggest priority!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I truly wonder how development was during the past 3 years since BFV released.
Since voice chat was not included (a staple for MP gaming on consoles for 20 years and PC gaming even longer), I really am curious what was going on at DICE and how it kept getting pushed off to half a year after launch.
For some reason at DICE, voice chat was some ginormous task to implement while your average indie MP game for $5 probably has voice chat.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
On the plus side, at least voice chat is now added when the game has 1,800 people playing on Steam (I checked SteamDB now).
Would had been funnier if it was added later when the player count is 0.
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jigglet
Banned
They better not mention it in the next BF reveal. They better shut the fuck up about it. Imagine them trying to hype up a new BF with that being one of the marquee features. I can see it now.
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Valedix
Member
Imagine voice chat taking them 5 months in 2022 lmao
Jibran#one
Member
I don't blame stupid idiots who were in love with battlefield and always wanted it to succeed , battlefield 4 was the goat ,1 was grear 5 turned out to be good in the end aswell.so expectation coming in to 2042 were really high but after this shit show any good will they had left is gone.
6 months without a single map and still no season while scamming people money from them is just pure incompetence.
Here's an advice for u dice ,a scoreboard , voip is not needed after 6 months of launch it's expected day 1st ffs.
Cod released almost at the same time as battlefield and it's season 3 Is about to start and since it's release they released tons of maps , zombie map warzone modes and a map and lots of guns
6 months without a single map and still no season while scamming people money from them is just pure incompetence.
Here's an advice for u dice ,a scoreboard , voip is not needed after 6 months of launch it's expected day 1st ffs.
Cod released almost at the same time as battlefield and it's season 3 Is about to start and since it's release they released tons of maps , zombie map warzone modes and a map and lots of guns
EDMIX
Member
Agreed 10000%. Thats why I'm even saying it makes sense to correct 2042 while making a new BF.
What trust can even be had going forward if this game is still fucked up?
So that shit is going to be saying shit like "Voice chat...day 1, scoreboard....day 1, gun can shoot...day 1" lol Its going to be hard to hype up another BF, if this is still in a horrid state.
I actually disagree with this.
To even add the maps they had worked on, is to even support the old design, so its taking this long cause its being redesigned and I'd rather have no maps and get good maps, then to have them continue to rush out bad design or something. So as much as I want more content, I want good, quality and well designed maps. I also don't now if I'd go as far as to say scamming lol Bad launch, fucked up shit show right now, sure, not to the level of a scam, simply a bad game.
My biggest worry was that EA had no issue giving the design to a person that never actually designed a BF title or any other FPS prior.
Klik
Member
On steam from 60k to 1,700 players 3months after release..
Im on PS5 in EU and have a lot of trouble to even find a match at peak times that don't have 50% AI bots inside..
Jibran#one
Member
And I was stupid enough to think that with crossplay this game would last the whole generation, how stupid and naive I was.
It literally died in 3 months on middle east servers , u fucked up dice u really did fucked up , at the very least give us server browser for main game for godsake , these are the things that should be in game day 1, why remove the server browser when it was literally available for all previous games
It literally died in 3 months on middle east servers , u fucked up dice u really did fucked up , at the very least give us server browser for main game for godsake , these are the things that should be in game day 1, why remove the server browser when it was literally available for all previous games
jigglet
Banned
lol scoreboard. They've set the bar so low haven't they.
jigglet
Banned
That's what ruined Titanfall 1 for me. I'd run into a crowd of enemies, it would take me a split second to differentiate the real person from the bots, and by that time the real person had killed me 14 times over.
If it wasn't for that one tiny flaw it would have been one of the GOATS for me. Fuck AI bots in PvP games. Fuck em to hell. Why the hell do devs think we want bots in PvP games. And this is coming from a guy that LOVED Warzone in H5 (PvE).
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Mshoaibi789
Neo Member
It's not totally bad game to be played but I think a good storyline will boost its ratings.
I installed the game with the hope of a good story but sadly I was wrong.
I installed the game with the hope of a good story but sadly I was wrong.
Cyborg
Member
I agree if you can't fill the maps don't make them so big but make them intense! It is just a lame addition and the big maps have done nothing special for the BF2042!
jigglet
Banned
I don't mind it if they are super distinct (aesthetically). But when they look either exactly like or close to a human player, it comes very close to just destroying the game.
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Jibran#one
Member
The game can fuck right off deleted it today once and for all , after the patch it still has the same stuttering issue it had on launch on series x
Fuck off dice u incompetent fucks
Fuck off dice u incompetent fucks
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
BATTLEFIELD 2042 UPDATE #4.0
Introducing VoIP functionality, balance changes, bug fixes, and Quality of Life improvements
Oh sweet, the 1300 players on steam can communicate with each other now.
Crownttano
Member
Battlefield 3 
miss those days
I still play 4 on PS5 though, goes good with alcohol
miss those daysI still play 4 on PS5 though, goes good with alcohol
Deerock71
Member
systemr123
Member
Promising years of updates on a game that already sucks will never make the game actually good. How about (thinking really outside the box here) creating a new Battlefield game, that's actually good, and promise years of updates on that?
MayauMiao
Member
BATTLEFIELD 2042 UPDATE #4.0
Introducing VoIP functionality, balance changes, bug fixes, and Quality of Life improvements
Should be more like "Introducing missing VoIP functionality".
It'll be like a small town where everyone knows each other.
Jibran#one
Member
I swear to God I used to play warzone on PS4 a year or so ago and then switched to series x when it released ,I play on middle east server and today I revived a guy on 2042 to realize it was my friend from PS4 , instantly texted him on his phone and he said yeh it was him on PS5
ResetEraVetVIP
Member
Steam isn’t the only service…
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Oh sweet, the *insert comically low player count for a Battlefield game 6 months after release* players on *insert console of choice* can communicate with each other now.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
For anyone claiming the Amazon Prime Gaming BF2042 items. The current items go away in like 2 days.
ymoc
Member
Ok, what are the other platform numbers. Enlighten us. A ballpark estimate will do. Or better yet, which console can support a game with crossplay turned off?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For you guys talking AI, is the AI good or bad in the game?
In Titanfall, the AI was meant for fodder to give some scope as the maps had to be big for titans. So they added dumbass grunts for +1 pts to fill space.
In Titanfall, the AI was meant for fodder to give some scope as the maps had to be big for titans. So they added dumbass grunts for +1 pts to fill space.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Straight up dogshit AI.
Jibran#one
Member
That was by design to get points, nothing to do with maps being big the ai here is just to fill spots in lobbies and they are dumber a rock.
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EDMIX
Member
Why? Only for people to argue that they won't believe such a promise if the JUST abandoned another game before?
So...thats sorta an issue.
I think both sides make sense on this btw, but its why I believe doing both makes the MOST sense vs either or. Half of DICE fix 2042, other half work on a new BF. EVEN with a flop of 2042, them fixing it means you know they'll support a new BF if they just supported a massive flop. The argument that they supported a game with 1000 people playing needs to fucking count for something man, you guys can't just bash them for making a flop and then bash them for supporting a game to the point of even doing so with a install base of 1000, that can very much be used to express that they'll support a new BF if they did something like that.
So how can that promise work if it comes after a broken promise? Fixing 2042 is needed to even market a new BF with such a promise. Trust is needed for that to even be believed, so updating this game and redesigning it is key, if even to just use that notion to show they'll support a new BF just the same.
Jibran#one
Member
Supporting a game is not fixing bugs ffs supporting a game is like rainbow six siege with year maps with years and years of content ,7 months in and not a single map , hero, weapon anything.
No amount of polish to this turd will bring the fans back mark my words as much as it pains me to say battlefield is dead.
EDMIX
Member
Ok bud. Have a good one with that theory.
yea and it also got years of updates to correct issues on top of giving out those maps sir, so....supporting fixing bugs, maps, update and other fixes too. (i don't know why you'd even argue fixing bugs isn't support or something) lol
What ever map they had planned would have been from the past design, not the redesign so I'm 100% ok with it taking this long if it means a actual good map.
surrrrrrrre, we heard the same shit when BFV came out lol
Jibran#one
Member
Dnt know if ur a dice dev or an ea guy , the game is literally dead in most of the regions, name me 1 game that didn't had any content for 7 straight months , voip and scoreboard , server browser is not freaking supporting the game these basic shit have been in games at launch since the begining of battlefield for God sake
EDMIX
Member
Updates, fixes etc is still support. No one is fucking saying that such things shouldn't be there since day 1, but fixing the game, updating and even adding back those featurse is still support regardless of how fucking triggered or emotional you are regarding it. I don't even know what you crying has to do with that term btw lol
I'd fucking tell you that even if I hated the publisher we are talking about. That has nothing to fucking do with the term, what is being fixed, updated etc.
Added to ignore.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Fucking douchebag. You're an EA/ DICE employee. Its sooooo obvious and the fact that you try to justify the existence of this piece of shit game goes to show you dont have any standards. #scrub
EDMIX
Member
I'm simply stating what support means in regards to updates, fixes, patches etc. Nothing about "standards" or justify a game or anything of that sorta as I'd say the very same thing on a game I disliked....the term has nothing to do with solely applying to something you love or something, its simply objectively about patches, updates, adding content etc
If Anthem got a patch, that is support
If COD got a update, that is support.
I own neither game and I'd still tell you that is what support means, you simply take a lot of this too seriously to underrstand that if you are personally attacking users on here cause someone told you what a term means. That has nothing to do with favoring a game, standards, justify anything etc.
You are simply too immature to get that...
ClosBSAS
My guess is that cause the team is no longer doing a Star Wars game, the other half is free to start working on the next BF title while the current core team is correcting this game with this whole redesign thing. Remember, that team use to be like 2 teams. So with no Star Wars game coming from them, it makes sense to support this for updates if they plan to just tell people they'll support the brand new BF title that comes out.
It would be hard to even do that if they just dropped that redesign on 2042. Imagine.
2042 They drop the redesign, no new maps, no new changes etc
New BF announced and they promise years of support. How many will believe that considering? So I think they are correct to work on both for the time being, at least to have feedback on what we don't want in the BF IP, I don't want to wait till we get a new BF and they fucked that one up too lol I'd rather voice the changes the series needs as they change 2042 and have that change be in the new game day 1 or something.
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Spaceman292
Banned
Yeah and BF hasn't been great since then