So I was watchng butterfly effect on DVD tonight thanks to a friend working at a rental store, and I must say that the directors cut of the film is a much better movie with a 100 times better ending then what everyone saw in the theatre. So when it gets released on tuesday go forth and watch it again , or for the first time if you happen to be one of the many folks who never bothered to see it in theatres.
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Butterfly Effect redux
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Azwethinkweiz
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I thought the director's cut ending was far more laughable than the theatrical ending.
StrikerObi
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Yes please spoil it.
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
Could someone spoil it? Or at least spoiler remind me of how the theater one ended 
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Deleted member 1235
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spoiler please.
dskillzhtown
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This is the first time I can recall people asking for spoilers and not getting them. Usually it is unwanted spoilers around here.
dskillzhtown
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Mairu said:
Holy Shit! Now THAT is an alternative ending!
dskillzhtown
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Pachinko said:
Ruined it? How can you say we ruind it for ourselves? Just because YOU would rather have not known the spoilers, doesn't mean we all are like that. Just like Smackdown spoilers every week. After reading the spoilers, now I have reason to look forward to actually seeing it. I was thinking that the ending was going to be some lame thing really close to the original. I am glad it isn't.
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I don't think that alternative ending makes a lick of sense. I liked the real ending.
I cant wait to pick up the DVD, Butterfly Effect is one of my favorite movies of all time. There is just something about that really is amazing to me. Maybe its the subject matter, maybe its wierd fucked up shit, maybe its Ashton Kutcher not acting like a total retard but IMO its a brilliant movie.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Is there other extra footage in the movie? I would like to see Ashton's relationship with his father explored more.
no see, they had a bunch of cut footage that allows this ending to work edited back in. They go to a fortune teller who says that Even has no soul/ no life line and shouldn't exist. In this same scene it is revealed that Evan's mother had 3 miscarriages, presumably all with jason, evans dad. So the end of the movie where he takes control of himself has a fetus works, and really it fits the mood of the whole film better, I mean its a depressing fucking movie so it doesnt' make sence to have an upbeat happy doody ending like the theatrical cut was... going by the deleted scenes though the ending could have been even happier , even the creators decided that wouldn't make any sence though.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Thanks Pachinko, I definitely will be picking this up tomorrow. Hopefully someone has it on sale. In the end, do you feel that they could have done a better job telling the story after you saw the deleted scenes?
Crazymoogle
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Pachinko said:
Which immediately puts to question those 3 miscarriages. Depending on how you want to look at it, they are either past "Butterfly" failures, or the last timeline version of Kutchner.
Crazy.
Crazy.
I watched the directors cut of the movie, first time seeing it. Jesus christ its depressing. The first half was kinda meh but got better in the second half. Pretty decent.
The movie seemed amateurily shot to me also. Took me out of it for a good chunk of the first half.
never thought id see a movie that contains the implied anal rape of ashton kutcher and his subsequent request to suck dicks.
oh yeah when he woke up with no arms i fucking burst out laughing. oh man that was unexpected
The movie seemed amateurily shot to me also. Took me out of it for a good chunk of the first half.
Justin Bailey
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I actually liked the movie, but that is a much better ending than the original.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
For some reason this movie reallyclicked with me when I saw it in the theater, maybe I just love time travel movies. But I just loved it, I need to check out this alternate ending. It does indeed sound freaky.
One of my girlfriend's friend had a complete freakout when we went to see this when it came out. Apparently the
She just ran out of the theater crying and we had to go get her. But I saw the movie again like a week later so I didn't miss anything.
One of my girlfriend's friend had a complete freakout when we went to see this when it came out. Apparently the
kiddie porn scene really got to her.
I saw it in the theater after it came out, so forgive me if my mind is foggy. IMO, the best ending would be one that could explain the time travel nonsense and the gaping plotholes.
This movie has problems that start near the beginning, and the new ending just sounds like another problem to me.
Why does the book always exist with the same stories if he keeps changing the past? How come others can sometimes see the changes to the present (the 'stigmata'), most times not (everything else)? How come something like giving a speech to a pedophile can change the course of someone's life drastically, but stabbing your hands with spikes only adds scars?
And this director's cut ending? First, I don't even want to know how he managed to land in a that period of time (before birth). Second, it's quite a stretch to assume he can overcome the disposition of being an undeveloped, unborn baby and still use the kind of mental power that's required to commit suicide. Does time travelling give him superpowers? Is he actually entering the body of his past selves?
I liked the idea that he had to not meet the girl he loved so she could live a happy life, but they messed that up, too. The movie made a weak argument for it. Really, the tiniest changes to the past could drastically affect the present (and usually did other than the stigmata scene). Therefore, all it might take for them to end up together happily would be trial and error. And even if keeping the characters from meeting were the only option, it was an idea that occured to me long before they did it. The rest of the movie just seemed like padding to get to that conclusion.
And this director's cut ending? First, I don't even want to know how he managed to land in a that period of time (before birth). Second, it's quite a stretch to assume he can overcome the disposition of being an undeveloped, unborn baby and still use the kind of mental power that's required to commit suicide. Does time travelling give him superpowers? Is he actually entering the body of his past selves?
I liked the idea that he had to not meet the girl he loved so she could live a happy life, but they messed that up, too. The movie made a weak argument for it. Really, the tiniest changes to the past could drastically affect the present (and usually did other than the stigmata scene). Therefore, all it might take for them to end up together happily would be trial and error. And even if keeping the characters from meeting were the only option, it was an idea that occured to me long before they did it. The rest of the movie just seemed like padding to get to that conclusion.
This movie has problems that start near the beginning, and the new ending just sounds like another problem to me.
Erimgard said:
The sad thing is that's a rather subjective opinion. Many people enjoy movies "that should never be released."
For example, Butterfly Effect. I have no desire to really see the movie, but the folks in this thread seemed to enjoy it. I can think of numerous films that some said should have never been made, but many enjoyed, including Soul Plane, Donnie Darko, Pi, Lost in Translation and even White Chicks. Just because you didn't enjoy them doesn't mean others feel the same way.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
It is totally subjective, I actually liked Butterfly Effect. I didn't want to see the movie, it has a few plot holes, but after I saw it it was a good ride and good story. I want to check out this Director's Cut to see exactly how it comes out.
Erimgard said:
Uh, okay; good for you, but just because YOU don't like the movie doesn't mean anyone who does is wrong and shouldn't watch movies. Honestly, there are movies with bigger plot holes that win Oscars, for fuck's sake.
And did you just compare watching bad movies with viewing kiddie porn?
Erimgard said:
There aren't words.
If you seriously can't tell the difference between the subjective enjoyment of a film and the sexual abuse of a child, well, here's a hint: one is a crime against humanity and severely damages a child in numerous aspects.
A bad movie robs you of two hours of you life and a few bucks, while child pornography...I can't even finish this sentence. I don't feel I even need to. If you're really that naive and self-centered, well, more power to you.
You're deluded. It was your argument and it was ridiculous. "Many people enjoy movies 'that should never be released.'" I showed how flawed that argument is. Simple debate. You simply ignored my rebuttle and questioned me for using kiddie porn as an example. In debate, one wants to put a flawed argument to rest, so it shouldn't be surprising when one uses powerful words and examples.BuddyChrist83 said:
Hell, the movie in question uses kiddie porn, animal cruelty, infant death (by explosion, mind you) and other such violence just to tell a time travel love story.
Any retarded crap can be enjoyed by someone, but I'm not gonna encourage it.
dskillzhtown
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Erimgard said:
Elitists make me want to hurl. Movies, music, and even TV to a point is subjective. If you like or dislike something doesn't mean you call someone else's opinon retarded. Just because "you don't advocate" Butterfly Effect doesn't really matter. It is your opinion. You don't have to totally shit on everyone that has a different opinion.
And to echo Bish's question from a few days ago, "Who let all these joke accounts in?"
All you're saying is that my opinion should be sensitive to others' opinions. You're trying to end debate because of emotion without even gracing over a single point. But wouldn't it be nice if it weren't taken so seriously? You don't like elitists (apparently me), I don't like Butterfly Effect. One of us is complaining about a movie, one of us is complaining about a whole generalized group of people that I don't think really exists (anyone can be an elitist). It's just an opinion, kay? I never even called anyone's opinion retarded. I called the movie retarded. You, however, said my opinion doesn't matter: "Just because "you don't advocate" Butterfly Effect doesn't really matter."dskillzhtown said:
Erimgard said:
Honetly I think this all worked perfectly. You never know how your life could have been diffrent had you decided not to go to the store one day. Or went to the mall one day. You never know who you would have met, or what you could have found. Weak argument ? It's not weak. The girl said She only stayed with her dad because of him. Had she never met him then she wouldnt have stayed with her dad, who in return would sexually abuse his children, who then wouldnt be all ****'ed up when they got older. I give it a thumbs up. How hard is it to make a flawless Time Travel movie ?
belgurdo said:
You don't make sequels to these kinds of movies. Thats like having an ET 2. Some movies are killed when they have to many sequels. Look at all those disney movies that have horrible straight to video sequels.
I do think it's a weak argument.TaleSynz said:
He didn't even try to simply convince her not to stay with her dad. He's sexually abusive... easy argument to win, right? He did other indirect things to solve that problem, and just gave up in the end and stopped their meeting. It just makes the ending silly. The director obviously wanted bittersweetness in the ending (at any cost), because the director's cut comes to the same conclusion in a more extreme manner. This movie is ridiculous.
Semjaza Azazel
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The whole movie shows him going back into his younger self with his adult mental functions... all his memories and thoughts and personality and what have you travel with him back in time every time it happens. Why would this be different when he's still a baby in his mother?
I'm not saying it's logical, but it's certainly not different than everything else in the film. It's impossible to make a time traveling film that's completely free of plot holes.
And what happens in the theatrical ending? I watched the director's cut and didn't see the original before I had to return it.
He watches a film of the little girl's birthday partry. When they meet for the first time he tells her he'll kill her mother if she comes near him. When they're in their 30's they bump into each other but she doesn't recognize him. Oh and he burns all of his notes
I really like the movie. It was an interesting concept.
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