Ah, so these free upgrades, whether on XBX or PS5, aren't a "proper" next gen version.
I guess remasters of current gen games are still in.
If the devs _want_ to do the update, it just comes down to cost. All patches delivered through the console owners platform costs money. At least it used to this gen.Sony is still working on BC.
Do people really expect Sony to blocked these games from receiving enhancements?
Yeah, they clarified later that there is no update at all at launch, just an upgrade somewhere down the line, which is the same one they previously said was free, and the same one they're calling "proper" here.The XsX version (when it's available cuz it won't be available on launch) will be free for anyone who bought it on the Xbox One.
No, apparently the article is poorly written.So there is the upgrade version via patch.
And a remaster version for next-gen specific.
Obvious I want the PS5 remaster instead the upgraded version.
With MS its kinda odd because if everything is playable on Series X, and lets say its digital, then is it really this gen or next gen? (same with PS5).
In the olden days you couldn't take a PS1 game and stick it into a PS2. Now with series X and most likely PS5 thats not the case. There really isn't a point of making 2 versions, or cross gen versions at this point. Unlike this gen for example a game like Battlefield which was way more gimped on PS3 vs the PS4 version when it launched.
I guess they will probably hold back a few features to milk the "remastered" version for "next gen". Add in RT or 8K textures or something to keep selling the game. It worked with GTA V.
Which makes me think, will they release a "next gen" version of GTA V so the game can get to 150 million copies sold?
For what the CD Project said, PS5 will also get a free enhancement patch for Cyberpunk PS4 users.
But they still can't announce it because Sony still has to announce that they will allow devs to release a PS5 version of PS4Pro-like enhacement patchs to enhace PS4 games when played on PS5, and/or the crossbuy featured in PSP+PS Vita+PS3+PS4.
Smart Delivery is just Sony's Crossbuy feature (+ Pro/X patches) with another name.
Sony implemented crossbuy in all their current gen and previous gen consoles and handhelds and PS5 is confirmed to be BC. For sure PS5 will feature crossbuy, and very likely PS4 Pro-like free enhacement patches. They just have to wait until announce them once desired (probably once they reveal the console or OS UI/UX and related features).
It is on console.Yep, kinda funny how Xbox fans fall for that stupid marketing name like if Smart Delivering is something new and amazing lol
SadNo, apparently the article is poorly written.
Seems like there's just one upgrade, and it's not at the consoles' launch.
MS is going the "PC" route of enhancing every first party game with either higher frames or resolution. You also get the benefit of faster loading with SSD on the Series X, but the narrative is a "boosted" Series X version compared to all other Xbox version (down to Xbox One)With MS its kinda odd because if everything is playable on Series X, and lets say its digital, then is it really this gen or next gen? (same with PS5).
In the olden days you couldn't take a PS1 game and stick it into a PS2. Now with series X and most likely PS5 thats not the case. There really isn't a point of making 2 versions, or cross gen versions at this point. Unlike this gen for example a game like Battlefield which was way more gimped on PS3 vs the PS4 version when it launched.
I guess they will probably hold back a few features to milk the "remastered" version for "next gen". Add in RT or 8K textures or something to keep selling the game. It worked with GTA V.
Which makes me think, will they release a "next gen" version of GTA V so the game can get to 150 million copies sold?
You wont see anything major on Final fantasy rather than frame rate boost.
You wont see anything major on Final fantasy rather than frame rate boost.
Has Sony even confirmed if you buy a game on your PS4 or PS5 (disc or digital), you get it for both?
Or is Sony going to try getting people to buy the game twice?
As of now they only mentioned that the PS5 will be backwards compatible, so most PS4 games will run on PS5.Has Sony even confirmed if you buy a game on your PS4 or PS5 (disc or digital), you get it for both?
Or is Sony going to try getting people to buy the game twice?
Sony called Crossbuy to buy a game and to get it on different platforms (each platform would download its own version, obviously). So let's say PS3 games that supported it like Journey if got an improved version on PS4 you'd get that other version for free (or PSP, or Vita, or any other combination).MS already has their own version of “crossbuy”, it’s called Play Anywhere. I can buy Forza 7 and play it on my launch Xbone, my X, or my PC. Where Smart Delivery takes it a step further is that when I bought Forza 7 there was no XSX version included but if the game gets a Series X upgrade, I’d get it for free. It has nothing to do with Sony or Cross Buy and it’s really just an extension of what they already have in place with base Xbone consoles and X. Now they just gave it a dumb marketing name. Sony will do the same stuff, see: DualSense or whatever the fuck it’s called
Plenty of bad unloaded looking textures that could be better too.You wont see anything major on Final fantasy rather than frame rate boost.
The shelf lifetime of games gets extended though. So, you can look at it as them losing money from no longer remaking a game and selling it a second time, or you can see it as them keeping on making money off old popular games at zero extra cost.This is going to be an "issue" for more big companies. Having fully backwards compatible consoles means they won't be able to get your money twice thanks to ports and "remasters". Personally I'd wait 3 months and just buy a PS5/XSEX version along with the new console. Playing Cyberpunk in lower resolution with lower graphics settings will surely ruin part of the experience.
It's all very unclear and it sounds like making actual to spec next gen versions that take extra dev time to the point they need to be released later will be a massive money sink if they have to give it away for free.
The XsX version (when it's available cuz it won't be available on launch) will be free for anyone who bought it on the Xbox One.
That's a whole lot of conjecture.This is how I see it:
CyberPunk 2077 - Gen 8
PS4
Xbox One
Cyberpunk 2077 - Gen 8 (with Gen 9 patches like TW3 on PS4PRo/X1X)
XsX (confirmed)
PS V (TBA but probably)
Cyberpunk 2077 - Gen 9 complete up-port/remake
XsX - (free upgrade if you own Cyberpunk 2077 Gen 8, otherwise purchase)
PS V - Will need to repurchase
Cyberpunk 2077 xxx Edition - Gen 9 with any DLC
XsX - Repurchase
PSV - Repurchase
However, what's not clear is how many devs/publishers will create a next gen version of their games without bundling in any DLC and calling it the complet edition and if the license also extends to those titles. I doubt it. But Microsoft could really do with clarifying exactly how it works, because if it's the case it could shift consoles now while people have noe eye on next gen to start building their libraries. For example, games like Siege etc.
If Microsoft are funding the up-ports and the publisher also gets a chance to sell that with 60% of the profits and 40% going to MS as capital investment repayment then it kind of makes sense.
Well to an extend, you don't know if Sony allows the PS4>PS5 within the same SKU.If the devs _want_ to do the update, it just comes down to cost. All patches delivered through the console owners platform costs money. At least it used to this gen.
So all Sony has to do is not monetize those updates and then all devs are free to deliver updates o ntheir games.
They would probably make a service/program out of it ofc, so they can still monetize on updates that are not in this vein.
Slap a cool name on it, and ppl stand in awe. Seems to work nicely;-)
True, but with a port or a remaster there's always a good opportunity to charge 60 or 30 bucks again and hope that impatient fans will buy it.The shelf lifetime of games gets extended though. So, you can look at it as them losing money from no longer remaking a game and selling it a second time, or you can see it as them keeping on making money of old popular games at zero extra cost.
That's true, but it does incur an investment of development resources, as small as it may be (and therefore, a risk).True, but with a port or a remaster there's always a good opportunity to charge 60 or 30 bucks again and hope that impatient fans will buy it.
That's a whole lot of conjecture.
If the "full blown next gen version" comes out a year after the current gen one, and I go out and buy the game second hand for XB1, will I just get the XSX version for free because it's in my library? What if I get the game at launch on XB1 then sell the disc? The thing is "full blown next gen version" coming later implies another disc all together.
He says the update will be playable "from the get-go on the next-gen", so that means the XB1 version but that clashes with the idea of the actual next gen version coming later. Sounds like an upgrade at launch, but a separate game later on. So what do you actually get for free as the upgrade?
It's all very unclear and it sounds like making actual to spec next gen versions that take extra dev time to the point they need to be released later will be a massive money sink if they have to give it away for free.
Sony sells millions more of the witcher 3, cd project gives ms exclusivity. Sony should just stop cd project games on ps5.
Xbox Gamer confirmed.There is no way I'm playing this on current gen. I'll be waiting for the Series X experience.
Same with FFVII remake.
Sony implemented crossbuy in all their current gen and previous gen consoles and handhelds and PS5 is confirmed to be BC. For sure PS5 will feature crossbuy
Yep, kinda funny how Xbox fans fall for that stupid marketing name like if Smart Delivering is something new and amazing lol
I think here comes into play Microsoft’s strategy of 1 unified platform, it makes porting much easier. Would be awesome if it includes ray tracing.
I bet PS5 will get a upgrade but a bit later.
....and beyondRockstar style. Milk it to oblivion...
did Sony offer crossbuy for high profile AAA games?
For example:
Did you get the PS4 version of The Last of Us for FREE, if you bought the PS3 Version? No! It's easy to offer it for a few selected, small indie games or so, with low budget.
But MS offers it FOR EVERY MS game, even for HALO INFINITE, so you get the true nextgen version for FREE, if you bought it on Xbox One. And NO, this is NOT about backwards compatibility! This is NOT about "enhanced patch"! We are talking here about the nextgen version.
it's something amazing though, isn't it? And it's something new, we all had to buy The Last of Us, GTA V again because we didn't have this in the past. Or did you get the last of us ps4 version for free, when you bought the ps3 version?
Oh yeah, its pretty easy for developers, of course they would offer it easily:
Microsoft’s DirectX 12 Ultimate unifies graphics tech for PC gaming and Xbox Series X
So a game can be optimized using DX12 Ultimate and run on a variety of Xbox devices and both AMD and Nvidia cards.
Microsoft’s DirectX 12 Ultimate unifies graphics tech for PC gaming and Xbox Series X
A single platform for supporting ray tracing and other next-gen graphics tech.www.theverge.com
Sony called Crossbuy to buy a game and to get it on different platforms (each platform would download its own version, obviously). So let's say PS3 games that supported it like Journey if got an improved version on PS4 you'd get that other version for free (or PSP, or Vita, or any other combination).
Like XBO X, PS4 Pro had free enhacement patches for some PS4 games, and as I remember there wasn't any marketing buzzword for that.
Smart Delivery doesn't add anything new, MS just gave it a name for the Series X implementation of both things. It's like xCloud, it's just the MS version of Remote Play and PS Now.
Xbox Gamer confirmed.
So were Titanfall 2, Forza Horizon 2 free?
But you named TLOU which was about 7 years ago.This is almost 7 years ago, I'm talking about right now.
If a new forza horizon would be released on xbox one, you would get the xbox series x version for free.
Titanfall 3 maybe, maybe not. Its not a microsoft studio game, so the publishers has to decide, for cyberpunk 2077 they confirmed it.
What difference would a next gen remaster offer? Max PC settings?
why wouldn’t a series x enchancsmsnt be the same damn thing? Are current gen versions not just down scaled pc builds?
There is no difference between an enhanced series x version and a remaster Ps5 version aside from charging you another 60$
Sony’s approach to backwards and forward compatibility is shit and an obsolete approach to it all.
Current gen won't have certain things like Ray Tracing.