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[remember_spinal]

I, Martin Luiga, a founding member and Secretary of the ZA/UM cultural association, as well as the assembler of most of the core team, am hereby dissolving the ZA/UM cultural association (not to be confused with the ZA/UM company, on which subject I would note that neither Kurvitz, Hindpere nor Rostov are working there since the end of last year and their leaving the company was involuntary. Which would seem like bad news for the loving fans that are waiting for the Disco sequel.)

The reason for dissolving the cultural organization is that it no longer represents the ethos it was founded on. People and ideas are meant to be eternal; organizations may well be temporary. I find that the organization was successful overall and most of the mistakes that were made were contingent, determined by the sociocultural conditions we were thrown into. I still encourage people to organize, and I would say that one of the qualities that the ZA/UM cultural organization sorely lacked was pretty much any formal structure.

For a while, it was beautiful. My sincerest thanks to all that have rooted for us.

 

[remember_spinal]

 

[Barakov]

It seems like some of the devs were just a little too nostalgic for the old soviet times. That quote by Luiga almost reads like the admission of a failed manifesto.

 

[geary]

Lots of words that say nothing.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

I have absolutely no idea what any of this means but if the people that worked on and wrote Disco Elysium aren't working on the sequel I am not playing it.

 

[MHubert]

People and ideas are meant to be eternal

'People' are not meant to be eternal what kind of crackclub organization was this supposed to be anyway?

I find that the organization was successful overall and most of the mistakes that were made were contingent, determined by the sociocultural conditions we were thrown into.

Okay, so an organization that was sucessful until it became affected by reality. What a loss.

 

[Daytonabot]

I'm shocked that a studio with a picture of Stalin on its wall is dysfunctional.

 

[brian0057]

"It wasn't real game development."

 

[Teslerum]

It seems like some of the devs were just a little too nostalgic for the old soviet times. That quote by Luiga almost reads like the admission of a failed manifesto.

I mean ZA/UM cultural association was meant to be an artistic socialist movement when it was founded. The studio itself was a result of that.

So, yes.

 

[LordCBH]

I'm shocked that a studio with a picture of Stalin on its wall is dysfunctional.

If they were true Stalin stans then most of their studio would be starving under forced famine conditions.

 

[Fools idol]

Disco.

It's at the very tippy top few of my favourite games of all times, easily, maybe even #1 on the cRPG pile on a good day..... this news t's basically a death warrent for the quality of the sequel sadly. Kurvitz was the leader writer and responsible for what made the first game so fucking good.

This oddly reminds be of when Troika games went bust after creating Bloodlines.

 

[BigbyTheSheriff]

I have absolutely no idea what any of this means but if the people that worked on and wrote Disco Elysium aren't working on the sequel I am not playing it.

That's exactly what it means.

Robert Kurvitz (lead writer and designer; he literally created DE universe/lore), Helen Hindpere (writer) and Aleksander Rostov (art director) are no longer part of the studio.

 

[Interfectum]

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

Sad to see. Disco Elysium was a top tier CRPG with some of the best writing in the industry.

But lots of folks will be happy because the game was supposedly “pro communist propaganda” - which goes counter to what the game actually was and the narrative it told. Then again, perfectly shows the folks who never touched the game and instead read outrage articles for reasons to be offended.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Crazy people can make some fantastic games. An incredible experience Disco Elysium.

 

[Alexios]

Crazy people can make some fantastic games. An incredible experience Disco Elysium.

What made the key leads named crazy?

 

[CosmicComet]

A socialist studio falling apart?

Wow.

 

[The Cockatrice]

What made the key leads named crazy?

Read some of the posts above.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

 

[Alexios]

Read some of the posts above.

I don't see anything about it, help me out.

You mean randoms calling a studio "socialist", lol?

At least wikipedia's a little helpful, it seems the game was made under some pretty "crazy" circumstances that miraculously led to a great game, but there's nothing that makes any one of them out as literally crazy (or any of the things they're accused of being, which wouldn't make them so either).

 

[The Cockatrice]

I don't see anything about it, help me out.

You mean randoms calling a studio "socialist", lol?

At least wikipedia's a little helpful, it seems the game was made under some pretty "crazy" circumstances that miraculously led to a great game, but there's nothing that makes any one of them out as literally crazy (or any of the things they're accused of being, which wouldn't make them so either).

Damn, we're defending communism now?

 

[Alexios]

Damn, we're defending communism now?

Huh?

 

[The Cockatrice]

Huh?

 

[Alexios]

No idea what you're saying. Irony exists you know. Guess I'll go by this post and leave it at that then since you don't have an actual answer and just wanna shitpost and I guess the next step is to call me literally crazy as well because I asked a question you don't have an answer outside google for.

Sad to see. Disco Elysium was a top tier CRPG with some of the best writing in the industry.

But lots of folks will be happy because the game was supposedly “pro communist propaganda” - which goes counter to what the game actually was and the narrative it told. Then again, perfectly shows the folks who never touched the game and instead read outrage articles for reasons to be offended.

 

[tommib]

Shame. Disco Elysium is a fucking masterpiece. Hope some key members stay for the sequel.

 

[The Cockatrice]

No idea what you're saying. Guess I'll go by this post and leave it at that then since you don't have an actual answer and just wanna shitpost.

It's ok to be naive.

 

[balls of snow]

One hit wonder it is then.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

It's ok to be naive.

You are literally he poster child for my post. Good lord you need to go outside and touch grass.

 

[Roberts]

These guys are from Estonia and I have a hard time believing they are Stalinists in any way. Socialists, Anarchists, Far-leftists, Ironic trolls, sure, but not Stalinists.

Anyway, the game is a masterpiece and I can't wait to play Pentiment, because that seems to be constructed in a similar way.

 

[The Cockatrice]

You are literally he poster child for my post. Good lord you need to go outside and touch grass.

Says the one defending people having Stalin posters/frames. Also, your post was totally incorrect. Still, whether I'm right or you're right, in both ways, it makes them crazy.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

For a minute I thought this tweet was an inner monologue from the game's main character. Or perhaps a skill check.

Regardless, DE is a fantastic game.

 

[MagnesD3]

This is super depressing, disco was one of my favorite games in a long time (e en with bullshit bugs) I was really looking forward to thier next project.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

If Kurvitz and the other main writers don't have control over the sequel anymore there's no way I'm playing it

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

Says the one defending people having Stalin posters/frames. Also, your post was totally incorrect. Still, whether I'm right or you're right, in both ways, it makes them crazy.

You are literally delusional, mate. You only further prove my point with every post of yours In this thread.

 

[BennyBlanco]

probably disagreements about money like capitalist pigs. still, their game was really good. shame.

 

[jaysius]

DE is pretentious pure drivel pseudointellectual nonsense. If you wanted an intellectual experience read a book. Don’t think you‘re smart because you “get” the game.

It’s meh at best.

Saying it’s the best in the industry is like saying your kid is the smartest because they’re the best shit finger painter in their grade.

 

[names are for friends]

I need to properly play Disco Elysium. The opening parts were really interesting & funny but I got thrown off by the kid you encounter right at the beginning who sounds very clearly like someone awkwardly putting on a Liverpudlian accent.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

DE is pretentious pure drivel pseudointellectual nonsense. If you wanted an intellectual experience read a book. Don’t think you‘re smart because you “get” the game.

It’s meh at best.

Saying it’s the best in the industry is like saying your kid is the smartest because they’re the best shit finger painter in their grade.

This reads like someone who couldn’t understand half the words.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

"It wasn't real game development."

"Real game development has never been tried."

 

[remember_spinal]

This reads like someone who couldn’t understand half the words.

Lol i do think there is a sizeable chunk of disco elysium fans that get off on the fact that its a “smart” game. Its like souls fans that pride themselves on beating difficult bosses.

Its probably why the game is so popular in these types of “enthusiast” circles. Add, Immortality to the list.

 

[March Climber]

The Cockatrice and Trazyn the Infinite you're having two different conversations.

The Cockatrice , he is saying they don't fit the literal definition of crazy(dictionary definition), not your own personal definition.

Trazyn the Infinite , in The Cockatrice 's world, liking any form of government not in line with what he considers the right one is crazy from his point of view.

...All it took was for one of you to clarify your stance, for things to not snowball the way they did from a single misunderstanding.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I, Martin Luiga, a founding member and Secretary of the ZA/UM cultural association, as well as the assembler of most of the core team, am hereby dissolving the ZA/UM cultural association (not to be confused with the ZA/UM company, on which subject I would note that neither Kurvitz, Hindpere nor Rostov are working there since the end of last year and their leaving the company was involuntary. Which would seem like bad news for the loving fans that are waiting for the Disco sequel.)

The reason for dissolving the cultural organization is that it no longer represents the ethos it was founded on. People and ideas are meant to be eternal; organizations may well be temporary. I find that the organization was successful overall and most of the mistakes that were made were contingent, determined by the sociocultural conditions we were thrown into. I still encourage people to organize, and I would say that one of the qualities that the ZA/UM cultural organization sorely lacked was pretty much any formal structure.

For a while, it was beautiful. My sincerest thanks to all that have rooted for us.

WTF did I just read? lol

 

[remember_spinal]

WTF did I just read? lol

Basically disco elysium dlc

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Leaked footage from their last staff meeting:

 

[Filben]

Leaked footage from their last staff meeting:

lol man, this is so hard to watch. Couldn't make it to the end and I salute every comrade who manages to do that. Point of information: I try not to cheer too loud or wave or hiss or breathe or do anything that might offend them (them, as in 'many them').

 

[bender]

Leaked footage from their last staff meeting:

 

[xrnzaaas]

A shame. Disco Elysium had its flaws (like showering you with tons of text and sophisticated language when it wasn't needed), but it was still a very unique game and it's going to be remembered 10 or 20 years from now just like people bring back Planescape Torment during conversations.

 

[The Cockatrice]

You are literally delusional, mate. You only further prove my point with every post of yours In this thread.

 

[MagnesD3]

DE is pretentious pure drivel pseudointellectual nonsense. If you wanted an intellectual experience read a book. Don’t think you‘re smart because you “get” the game.

It’s meh at best.

Saying it’s the best in the industry is like saying your kid is the smartest because they’re the best shit finger painter in their grade.

The game is amazing because of it voice level up system that's really unique, it's crazy amount of directions you can take things, political hilarity and it's characters. Also the art is cool and it's music is hard-core.

Only bad thing was the bad bugs and the fact they will let you soft lock if you don't have money on a certain day to pay your rent and your forced to sell some cool side content items which sucked.

 

[KungFucius]

Isn't that a picture of Stalin morphed with Mao? How does that imply they like either? I see it as putting 2 pieces of shit together to show they are the same and mocking them.