Magicpaint
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I'm pretty much dead inside for it. Now when I see it I don't even feel anything anymore.
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Dragon Quest 8: Journey of the Cursed King (3DS) |OT| Cor Blimey!
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The best thing about 8 is that it doesn't take away your bloody party member, who you spent 30+ hours prepping up to be the DPS/support type.
Bitanator
Member
Knowing how much that game affected me with its story and how much fun I had last year playing it, to hear people call it terrible or a downward slope in Dragon Quest, it hurts, I'd rank it as my third favorite DQ game.
Sad times for sure.
I've been playing DQ8 on the train to and home from work. Just met Red for the first time. It's been a long time since I've played the game properly, I'd forgotten some of the stories that come up. It's nice to have this deja-vu feeling with them, thinking 'Oh yeah, the sad king' and then remembering where I was and what I was doing at the time. It's kinda double-edged nostalgia.
I'm really liking the quality of life improvements to the game as well. Saving all over the place is a great feature. Faster battles are welcome as well.
If I remember right there are more unique costumes in this game than the previous versions? Are they easy to get or is it post-game stuff?
malikhaing_bayag
Member
7 was my first DQ on the PSX and I've loved every moment of it. Still making my way through the 3DS version but have little time to play.
malikhaing_bayag
Member
Thanks! Is fisticuffs good for Yangus?
Novel Mike
Member
I don't think its a horrible game but the flaws are extremely obvious. The story takes dozens of hours to get anywhere even relatively interesting. The characters aren't very deep or well developed and it takes more then 30 hours to even get to the final party member. The job system takes 20+ hours to unlock and is extremely bare bones with many 'filler' jobs that you never need or want to take besides as a prerequisite for another, better class. The world has interesting moments but a lot of downtime and time spent doing the same thing over and over again (go to village, talk to everyone, go to dungeon and/or complete random task, village is saved, leave.) without ever getting a clear picture of the story until near the very end of the game.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the 100+ hours I put into DQ7 and I'm glad I played it but after finishing it I looked at it and instantly thought 'I'll never want to replay this game ever again' for many of the issues I mentioned above. DQ8 isn't perfect and has its own faults but it infinitely a much better game then 7 is, imo.
It's more like a friendship. You put the time in, you have good times with one another and build memories around your experiences. I really enjoyed the short story collection format of DQ7. To me, it was a friend that kept surprising me.
GeekyDad
Member
So much discussion about DQ7 here. Definitely a worthy comparison, but I didn't feel the game overstayed its welcome, and honestly, I thought it was a great game. I just didn't like it. Granted, there were some archaic mechanics that annoyed me, but for the most part, the game seems to hold up just fine. I was just really bored with it, really left cold with its story, and most of all its pacing was just so off for me. I can see its appeal, though. I may find a time where I go back to it and really mine it for all it's worth, but man, it was a slog for me like it was for many others. Reaching the abbey and getting vocations was so anticlimactic. It's an interesting part of the series, no doubt.
enjoying the game somewhat but Im 6ish hours in (just got to Abbey Ruins) and aside from two Boss types fights combat has mainly consisted of just tapping the A button to just do normal attacks on all the enemies. It's getting pretty mundane and mind numbing.
Is this what old turn based JRPGS are supposed to be like?
Is this what old turn based JRPGS are supposed to be like?
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Well yeah, for the first handful of hours until you get to the harder stuff.
QuackkAttack
Member
I think the 3DS version nuked the difficulty with certain things. My run has been significantly easier this time around, than it was on ps2.
As long as you don't try and over level yourself then there's plenty of skills/spells you need to use to advance. There'll be bosses that will most likely own your ass which makes you want to rethink what you're doing. With that said, yes, one of the downsides of turn based combat is that a lot of the normal mobs aren't very engaging.
I do like turn based combat but I would love to see a game try and do less fighting but having every fight be a challenge. Doubt that is commercially smart though.
At least turn on the AI to automate the more trivial battles. That doesn't make them not trivial, but at least makes them more tolerable.
Like you said that doesn't make it right. I think this is about the only complaint I have of this game. I love it but shit I probably spend 20 hours during a play through just waiting for the AI to do it's thing. Can't say it feels that rewarding.
For turn-based combat where you can't get away with that, SMT or Etrian Odyssey are good bets. EO has you normally a couple of bad rounds away from a party wipe for the first few areas.
ScrabbleDude
Member
What? Dragon Quest VII sold more than 4 million copies. It was the highest selling PlayStation game in Japan. It was just the rest of the world that didn't get it.7 sold poorly during rhe PSX era too. Doesn't surprise it also sold poorly in the 3DS and people got bored of it. Unless you're a truly hardcore DQ fan moreso than just a JRPG fan, DQVII won't be accepted by the masses sadly
I did play it on PSX. I bought it for a high price year's after it came out because I hadn't even known it existed. I loved it. I still love it. I just don't remember it getting any marketing at the time so it's understandable that the west doesn't have nostalgia for it.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
Made it to the first casino. Goodbye story progress. Time to horde tokens.
They're better, sure. And I can't say I have played all of them.. but usually normal encounters end up being trivial sooner or later even in those cases.
Teriyaki Blues
Member
It is supposed to be, but I usually throw him 70 points in Scythe for the Stealing capabilities.
It is worth noting that you get a second character who can steal in this remake though, so I'd choose one or the other unless you're interested in attempting to complete the Item and Alchemy lists.
There's a certain amount of RNG involved. Some bosses have been very tough for me this time due to them spamming awful attacks.
Magicpaint
Member
Yeah I really have no idea what people mean when they say the difficulty has been nerfed. I haven't noticed that at all. It's roughly about the same as when I played it on PS2 and mobile.
Now I have Red in my party but can't figure out who should get the boot. -_- Aiming for Morrie later on but the Monster Arena is such RNG hell...
Now I have Red in my party but can't figure out who should get the boot. -_- Aiming for Morrie later on but the Monster Arena is such RNG hell...
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
You should try Bravely Second.
I'm pretty sure you have to guess at some of them. The game makes it easier by only allowing you to combine valid items.
I can't remember if any items require a 100% blind guess though. There are a bunch of combinations that have in-game hints but no explicit recipe.
Another fuckup I found with a character's name in battle. Warning: MAJOR SPOILERS from near the end of the game w/new content:
In the battle against Juggerwroth, Marcello is called "Othello." LOLWUT
entremet
Member
I'm loving this game. So much memories and so many improvements!
Portable.
Faster Battles.
No random battles.
Instant Alchemy Pot.
One weird thing. Why is equipping stuff so wonky. I can't figure it out it in the Equip menu.
I only know how to equip when I buy stuff.
Ediit: I figured out. I needed to put the items in the bag of the user. Very wacky interface.
What?! Freaking Funimation Tori shenanigans!
Portable.
Faster Battles.
No random battles.
Instant Alchemy Pot.
One weird thing. Why is equipping stuff so wonky. I can't figure it out it in the Equip menu.
I only know how to equip when I buy stuff.
Ediit: I figured out. I needed to put the items in the bag of the user. Very wacky interface.
What?! Freaking Funimation Tori shenanigans!
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
I liked it well enough but the pacing of it is definitely a dealbreaker for some.
The fact that 8 3DS, a port, did more to streamline the experience than 7 3DS, a full on remake, did is disappointing.
GeekyDad
Member
Never played the original, but Jessica looks pretty bad ass when she maxes out.
Elaugaufein
Member
The Super Saiyan hair wasn't got rid off , it was introduced in the US version of the PS2 Game, the 3DS version was based on the Japanese version, and the English team didn't reintroduce it again.
There's 2 new dungeons. Did you go to the other one yet?
That was something added to the western PS2 version. It was never in the Japanese versions. They just didn't add it back for this.
Don't know where it is, but it can be reached before finishing the game.
Also there is a Dhoulmagus cutscene if you go to Kalderasha after the events in Farebury.
clay_ghost
Member
Hopeing to get the Dragon Ball(Z) crowd.
Go to Neos. I did it before beating the game myself. Not very difficult.
Just beat the final boss (of the main game, not post-game). I'm low 40s and I thought he would be a pushover. Not so with the massive buffs they gave him. It was quite a fight and I thought I might lose at a couple points. Damn. Hope they didn't buff the post-game bosses because those were already ridiculous.
On to the post game.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
If the 3DS version was based on the Android/iOS game, then it makes sense too considering that mobile version didn't have SS hair.
Likely to milk that Dragon Ball Z cash cow considering the art style.
entremet
Member
Not quite. The 3DS version is its own thing.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Daaaamn.
I shudder to imagine how much more difficult Dhoulmagus would have been if Angelo didn't have Multiheal.
Hironobu Sakaguchi
Member
well, i may not have the the right to participate in this thread as i'm not going to play 3DS version, but can't leave this thread without a post ...
it was my first DQ game i ever played back in 2005 , what helped me to play it was its development by LEVEL-5, and it was quite a journey, but i've to admit that i was kinda noob back then.... but honestly , if L5 wasn't involved, i doubt if i was thinking of playing it.
later on, on 2012 , i decided to start from the roots of the series and play some of the releases , i started with DQIII , to find myself hooked up and played the wholes series.
as for DQVIII , i replayed it on june 2013 , it took me 3 months to fully beat it -LOL but what to do, the older you get, the harder to maintain free time-
i can say the i beat the game by %99 as i didnt max out the levels, otherwise everything is complete
this is the main story completion:
this is after the
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i believe i should talk more bout my experience here, but actually om playing DQVII as it's a full remake of PSX version that i beat for the first time back on 2014
enjoy y'all
it was my first DQ game i ever played back in 2005 , what helped me to play it was its development by LEVEL-5, and it was quite a journey, but i've to admit that i was kinda noob back then.... but honestly , if L5 wasn't involved, i doubt if i was thinking of playing it.
later on, on 2012 , i decided to start from the roots of the series and play some of the releases , i started with DQIII , to find myself hooked up and played the wholes series.
as for DQVIII , i replayed it on june 2013 , it took me 3 months to fully beat it -LOL but what to do, the older you get, the harder to maintain free time-
i can say the i beat the game by %99 as i didnt max out the levels, otherwise everything is complete
this is the main story completion:
extra chapter
i believe i should talk more bout my experience here, but actually om playing DQVII as it's a full remake of PSX version that i beat for the first time back on 2014
enjoy y'all