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Embracer shuts down studio Onoma aka Square Enix Montreal, Eidos working on Fable
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ChorizoPicozo
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Ok.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
As long as its not the Deus Ex/Guardians of the Galaxy devs.
Lone Wolf
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What do you think the odds are we get another Deus Ex in the next 5 years?
FingerBang
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OH NO...ma
Kacho
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Hitman Go was kinda sick. I don’t generally play mobile games but I finished that entire thing. Great, simple concept.
TransTrender
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That's the corporate equivalent of, 'I'm dumping you for being dumb, ugly, and smelly. There's nothing worth salvaging. Bye.'
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Odds are good because Jason confirmed the dev has already begun.
Gobjuduck
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SE is dying
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Well it was a mobile dev.Ouch it's almost like Square Enix knew what was actually happening with some of these studios and it wasn't exactly the deal of the century
If you are publisher who doesnt really do mobile games it doesnt make sense to keep a mobile developer.
But they were part of the package soooo......
Whats really news is that another ex-Squenix dev is working with Xbox Game Studios.
How much you wanna bet if the ABK deal went through MS would have bid on Crystal Dynamics and Eidos then relegated Onoma to merge into King.
Crystal is working on Perfect Dark
Eidos is working on Fable.
Square Enix really had no idea what to do with these studios.
And they are such a talented bunch.
Looking forward to whatever they are bringing out next after Perfect Dark and Fable.
FalsettoVibe
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DeepEnigma
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So another SE third party developer working on MS's first party IP?
Pejo
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Hit after hit and they still got shut down? Is there no justice?
CamHostage
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SW Montreal was a very good studio. They won't get a lot of tears shed in their name on GAF as a mobile-focused developer, but they made good things which were worth playing, especially in a market that doesn't have a lot of titles worth championing.
I would have liked to have seen the studio pivot into Embracer projects rather than just killed off,, but business can be brutal.
Agreed! I'm very interested in how that's all working out and how the economics adds up (positively or negatively) of Square Enix's major internal studios became support developers for MS...
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FF:Enhanced_Reality
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Deus Ex is great. But if Microsoft acquire Embracer it'll be really fucked up.
StreetsofBeige
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Eidos is doing Fable?
GhostOfTsu
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I thought it was the Forza Horizon devs that were working on Fable? Is that another The Initiative?
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Gobjuduck
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Yes. SE has had nothing but bad news, they are a failed publisher.
1. Underwhelming sales across the board
2. Committed to blockchain
3. Sold their talented western studios and IPs for dirt cheap
4. Admitted they are squeezed out of the Japanese market
5. Selling stakes to their studios
7. Final Fantasy 14 back on the decline
8. Forespoken looks underwhelming
The only good news about square enix is that final fantasy 16 looks promising, But that’s one game.
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theStartupSound
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I also liked Lara Croft Go, played it on PS4.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Microsoft acquire Embracer?
Yeah, second team at Playground. Not sure how big it grew to be.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
No AAA game is made by a single studio.
Playground Team 2 is lead on Fable, Eidos is co-developer.
Initiative is lead on Perfect Dark, Crystal is co-developer.
I Master l
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I do think MS management is shity but they still more competant than Empracer
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GhostOfTsu
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Of course but Eidos Montreal is not a support studio. They make their own games. They're the ones that need support.
Buggy Loop
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Oh, the mobile SE Montreal division..
Eidos Montreal not touched, phew!
Although, I am pretty sure there’s not much of the Deus ex human revolution team left. Still, GOTG was pretty sweet.
Eidos Montreal not touched, phew!
Although, I am pretty sure there’s not much of the Deus ex human revolution team left. Still, GOTG was pretty sweet.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That topic title is a mouthful ..
and no don't tag quote me.
and no don't tag quote me.
Thirty7ven
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All around hilarious don’t even know where to begin gold nuggets everywhere in this piece.
DeepEnigma
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samoilaaa
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yeah , this happens with most AAA games especially these days when games are bigger than ever
CatLady
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Yeah, I'd much prefer Xbox to have bought Eidos Montreal and Crystal Dynamics. It is interesting that those two studios are both now working with Xbox first party studios on 2 different games. I would love for Xbox to buy both of these studios from Embracer after A/B/K goes through.
Great to hear another Deus Ex is in development even if it is only early stages. It's much better than if Square still owned them. I doubt we'd ever see another Deus Ex.
Sad for people in the studio but interesting that Embracer seems to be 100% focused on consoles and PC gaming., after Wingefors statement about NFT too. Maybe in several years they will start to be an important publisher (their last showcase wasn't good though).
About Eidos and Xbox, well it resembles to the Perfect Dark situation. But we also know that PG teams are already way bigger than The Initiative even without counting those who work on Forza Horizon. Fable does seem like the biggest Xbox game to come. It's probably a hard process but i hope they'll manage. It would be a very bad signal if ends up like another Halo Infinite.
About Eidos and Xbox, well it resembles to the Perfect Dark situation. But we also know that PG teams are already way bigger than The Initiative even without counting those who work on Forza Horizon. Fable does seem like the biggest Xbox game to come. It's probably a hard process but i hope they'll manage. It would be a very bad signal if ends up like another Halo Infinite.
StreetsofBeige
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Sounds good. I must had missed the news in the co-host parts. I just remember Playground doing Fable.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Anyone can support anyone.
If a studio currently has free staff, better to put them to work than have them idle.
The sheer size of AAA games means it makes sense to hustle for talent where its available.
Sure you could use a "dedicated" support studio, but why not just use a studio that has shipped AAA games themselves, if they arent working on something right now, nab that talent and put it to use.
Looking at how SE was "taking care" of these studios they clearly needed work, someone was willing to give it to them.
Bend, Guerilla and Insomniac were support studios on Death Stranding.
Im pretty sure the last Ragnarok dev diary even mentioned that Naughty Dog was supporting Santa Monica on the game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
MS cozying up with all of Square's jilted exes as essentially 2nd party devs now.
Good to see talent being utilized.
Good to see talent being utilized.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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So not a productive studio at all. They never shipped anything of note and so nothing of value was lost.
Hope all the individuals land on their feet, at least.
yazenov
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Yes, now we know why SE got rid of their fat at a discount. Or is it a steal now that we realize how little they are worth for them.
Ass of Can Whooping
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remember_spinal
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Pretty sure CD is lead developer on Perfect Dark now
StealthGoblin
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It’s interesting that Xbox don’t feel confident enough in their talent, or have enough talent, to develop Perfect Dark and Fable internally in a traditional sense. All big AAA productions outsource, but they don’t usually outsource much outside of art and asset development. Xbox are using full ‘AAA’ studios owned by other publishers to help get their games over the line.
It’s an interesting strategy.
It’s an interesting strategy.
My first instinct is to laugh in your face, and then I remembered they're buying AB.
vaibhavpisal
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Xbox seems heavily interested in these Eidos studios.
If Acti-Blizzard deal was not underway, I suspect they would be welcoming some top tier ips in their fold.
If Acti-Blizzard deal was not underway, I suspect they would be welcoming some top tier ips in their fold.