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Gamespot - Star Wars Outlaws Feels Mediocre With A Protagonist Who's Way Too Strong 💪 (Mary Sue Alert)
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The Cockatrice
Banned
So you're saying, ud prefer a skinny woman easily dispatching strong men instead of a muscular woman?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
They wouldn't because they have better looking faces then Kay's.
I do hope the show just creates Fanon of a Galactic Religious War on The Force vs. The Thread.
All while Kreia is all....
Majormaxxx
Member
Stop being a pick me
gaming_again
Member
who is this even for? Who cares about this shit? Is it all money laundering?
StereoVsn
Member
“feels fairly mediocre and unmemorable. What I played feels like an amalgamation of different features and mechanics borrowed from other games that do those things better”
Ahh, a Ubisoft joint for a Modern Audience! Modern Star Wars
+ Ubisoft = Match Made in Heaven! 
Ahh, a Ubisoft joint for a Modern Audience! Modern Star Wars
+ Ubisoft = Match Made in Heaven!
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gaming_again
Member
I prefer skinny women in any scenario.
SJRB
Gold Member
This game looked utterly mediocre from the very start.
The shiny graphics wowed a lot of people but if you look past that pretty much everything is the same boring trite you've seen a thousand times before.
Also doesn't help that Star Wars as a franchise is in a dismal place right now so people approach new content with caution instead of interest or hype.
The shiny graphics wowed a lot of people but if you look past that pretty much everything is the same boring trite you've seen a thousand times before.
Also doesn't help that Star Wars as a franchise is in a dismal place right now so people approach new content with caution instead of interest or hype.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Nah, its just kinda hilarious of the double standards that gaf keeps showing or the stupidity more so, they complain about Abby because muscles and stuff but when a skinny woman does what Abby did, it's fine, no issues, UNLESS SHES UGLY then its the end of the world. This is why normal ppl avoid coming here on these forums.
Majormaxxx
Member
Then stop coming here, normal person.
The Cockatrice
Banned
StueyDuck
Member
God damn... I am not nor never will watch the show, but every single time I see a clip or snippet from this show it's the most mediocre shit I've ever seen.Hopefully, they add the cast from The Acolyte as playable characters.
I'm mean at least spin the camera around them a little, what is this static clown performance
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
This 200x
I don't know if anyone exist in real life that GaF would be ok with being modeled in a video game based on something they do in real life. I mean, Abby is literally modeled from a person in real life that does cross fit and folks was like "ok, but can a girl really get dem gains in real life doe"? lol
They'll turn anything into a "it must be a simulation" or "historical accuracy" as some smokescreen to hate on something.
We can have the film Monster etc, no issues.
The moment we make a Monster video game "derrr how come her BOOBS IS NOT BIG and she is UGLYfied on purpose?"
Its like gamers have this low iq of thinking of any of this and try to force this weird 1 size fits all, they must all be pretty etc
KungFucius
King Snowflake
What is with you wokies? The complaints are about boring gameplay but you have to cry woke twice. How many times do you cry woke in a typical day?
Lunarorbit
Member
Bro... the force is female
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
In my mind Legends/EU is canon and everything else is not. Abeloth would wipe the floor with everything this Acolyte mythos wants to bring.
Lunarorbit
Kreia: "I HATE the Force".
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Majormaxxx
Member
This level of female and male crossfitters are roided up. It's not a secret.This 200x
I don't know if anyone exist in real life that GaF would be ok with being modeled in a video game based on something they do in real life. I mean, Abby is literally modeled from a person in real life that does cross fit and folks was like "ok, but can a girl really get dem gains in real life doe"? lol
They'll turn anything into a "it must be a simulation" or "historical accuracy" as some smokescreen to hate on something.
We can have the film Monster etc, no issues.
The moment we make a Monster video game "derrr how come her BOOBS IS NOT BIG and she is UGLYfied on purpose?"
Its like gamers have this low iq of thinking of any of this and try to force this weird 1 size fits all, they must all be pretty etc
As for attractive people in movies - why did Theron lose the 30lbs afterwards and plays a fit and healthy female lead in all her other movies?
Why do people in gaming insist that this media has to be the one where the attractiveness of the leads doesn't matter.
Since the beginning of cinema the leads have been actors that look attractive.
Majormaxxx
Member
The writing in X Wing Alliance or Zahn's books wipes the floor with modern star wars TV writing.In my mind Legends/EU is canon and everything else is not. Abeloth would wipe the floor with everything this Acolyte mythos wants to bring.
Angry_Megalodon
Gold Member
You don't need to look like Bane to become a top soldier. Nobody has any problem with Sarah Connor's transition from a soft waitress in Terminator to a seasoned merc in Terminator 2. It's one of the physically and mentally best evolutions I have seen in a character. She beats the crap out of strong guys in the asylum with BELIEVABLE combat skills. That's peak writing.
Now, let's compare.
Now, let's compare.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I tend to go back to older books. I really enjoyed the Darth Bane trilogy years ago. Or just go back to Kotor. Really sad what Star Wars has become. Think the only recent good Star Wars stuff was very early Mandalorian and anything to do with Shin Hati since the less is more really shines.
Ancient Sith Empire is superior to anything the media now puts out. Nothing compares to Marka Ragnos, Ajunta Pall, Tulak Hord, Bane.
Despite SWTOR's shortcomings with the treatment of Kotor 2's protagonist I did like Valkorion.
Majormaxxx
Member
Life's short, we have a lot of old games to play or replay and a lot of real life goals and hobbies. So I'm not mad. Slightly disappointed though. And initially, very surprised because they are running star wars into the ground...
The Cockatrice
Banned
Everyone loves a hot woman, there is no denying it. All they need to fix with Outlaws are the stealth takedowns, she needs to either knock the shit out of them with the gun butt or have a stun baton or something similar in her inventory. Bitch slapping a helmet wearing stormtrooper to death is where I draw the line. If she was more muscular like Abby i'd be ok with it. I dont think I've played games with a hot chick slapping men to death, hell even the modern Tomb Raider uses melee weapons and guns. El from TLOU2 is skinny af but she has a freaking knife that stabs them in the neck.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I don't disagree, this is true, but this can also be said for Abby's character, so a moot point. It means that exist in real life, thus can exist in the game.
Ok, but we are not talking about "other films", the film Monster is what I posted....
The film fucking exist man, its not unusual to have people morph into a character and the aim isn't for them to be attractive or something, that is the point that is being made.
This is an excepted idea not only in film, but in shows or really any medium tbh because if it fits the character, then it makes sense.
Yea, I never said that, but its a medium that such a thing can alter to fit the film or show. Every film or show's aim isn't to get you an erection, how come that can't be understood with games?
And? We have leds that are ugly as fuck too, you telling me you beat off to Steve Buscemi? That is attractive to you?
Be like "the leads have been actors that look attractive"
lol
My point is simply that if you can understand the purpose of how someone looks can be altered to fit a film, you can fucking get that about a game. What I'm stating isn't that wild man. Out here doing steve buscemi things lol
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It's disappointing but not unexpected. It's been happening to several popular franchises.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
maybe, maybe not.
I don't care enough of about Star Wars to say much lol
I enjoy the originals, but shit I also liked Star Wars Rogue 1 better then the whole series prior. So...I don't really know tbh, the people I know who watch those Star Wars shows on Disney love em and they seem to be doing just fine with the IP in that regard in terms of viewership, ticket sales etc.
Like I said, I'm not a big massive Star Wars fan (I don't even have it in my top 10 favorite Scifi films btw) , but I can't deny its success currently.
Guerilla Munch
Member
Weird how a """""""journalist""""""" wouldn't ask about the difficulty settings
Also, every game doesn't need to be as difficult and convoluted as Elden Ring. I'm almost 40 and am lucky to have an hour a night to play my PS Portal in my cuck shed. Sometimes I just want a leisurely romp through an old school Star Wars universe, playing as a qt3.14 outlaw babe who kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything
Also, every game doesn't need to be as difficult and convoluted as Elden Ring. I'm almost 40 and am lucky to have an hour a night to play my PS Portal in my cuck shed. Sometimes I just want a leisurely romp through an old school Star Wars universe, playing as a qt3.14 outlaw babe who kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything
archangelmorph
Member
What’s going on with all this anti-woke nonsense whinging?
If you’re going moan about a video game character exemplifying the same power fantasy mechanical trope all video games have exemplified since the dawn of gaming then you’ve clearly lost the plot and disappeared up your own asshole of anti-woke sentiment.
You do know that Nathan Drake fucking steamrolled armies of trained paramilitary soldiers, as an average everyman with zero combat, shooting or tactical training?
It’s more jarring because she’s a woman?
No, Lara Croft destroyed the same, no to mention trouncing armies of other worldly creatures/monsters/dinosaurs too.
It’s simply more jarring to you because of this silly cognitive bias you’re all desperately swept up into.
I’m tired of woke bullshit just as much as the next guy but fuck me pick a sensible argument hill to die on…
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ByWatterson
Member
With her bare hands?
Yes. Like....obviously yes.
Ellie, Abby, Leia, and Lara don't do this shit with their bare hands. They just don't. Abby is the closest, but they go out of their way to depict her as an absolute unit.
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The Cockatrice
Banned
Having a gun/weapon changes everything you said my guy. Women can certainly kill any man, no one has an issue with that, but SHE SLAPS A STORMTROOPER WITH HELMET ON UNCONCIOUSLY. Show me one normal man who slaps an enemy through his fucking armor to death or knocks him out.
ByWatterson
Member
AND in Uncharted, Drake's inability to fistfight a guy is typically denoted by the opponent's size and *armor*.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Kay Vess isn't Bloodrayne or a Ninja Gaiden Waifu maybe that's the issue? Knocks people out with an uppercut and just has a lack of impact? Especially where Smugglers rely on Blasters and Tech to get out of scuffles? And usually against Armored Shock Troops?
End of the day it's just another Ubisoft game and their gameplay loop is generally very bland.
As far as I know there is nothing special about Kay Vess that would allow her to take on some of the enemy types that will be in the game as opposed to Half-Vampires, Ninjas, or Jedi/Sith.
Han Solo and Dash Rendar have never feasibly attempted to fistfight a armored Stormtrooper.
End of the day it's just another Ubisoft game and their gameplay loop is generally very bland.
As far as I know there is nothing special about Kay Vess that would allow her to take on some of the enemy types that will be in the game as opposed to Half-Vampires, Ninjas, or Jedi/Sith.
Han Solo and Dash Rendar have never feasibly attempted to fistfight a armored Stormtrooper.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Man I love Kyle Katarn. His Arc from Stormtrooper to Jedi Knight is so cool.
The Cockatrice
Banned
I loved JK2 and JKA, I played their mp'ers for so many years, hell we even had ESL championships. Crazy that neither of these games have been surpassed in light saber combat. I guess Fallen Order/Jedi Survivor come close.
MadchesterManc
Member
Star Wars being sci-fi fantasy must have really slipped by some folk
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't think so when it comes to melee combat it's just Outcast/Academy and Blade of Darkness.
Much of the combat in FO/JS has you commit to animation and has a much more limited physics engine.
Most modern games do not interact with environment or have gratuitous dismemberment.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Seems the author thinks differently. Again:
Feels like a leap to go from "smuggler" to "one-woman army capable of mowing down legions of elite soldiers." Like the article describes, why would she even bother sneaking around, using subterfuge tactics, etc etc if she can just murder every obstacle in her way without breaking a sweat?
Lunarorbit
Member
I had to look up that character. I played half of the first knights of the republic on an iPadIn my mind Legends/EU is canon and everything else is not. Abeloth would wipe the floor with everything this Acolyte mythos wants to bring.
. I might have to finally watch Andor cause everyone had a raging boner for it 2 years ago. Honestly I wish Timothy olyphant had told Boba felt to fuck off and kept the armor. That's a show I'd watch.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
I’m glad outlaws is being made at least when you think of 1313, kotor 3, battlefront 3 its dead ips.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Look, I love T2, but no, it’s not believable.
basically any fiction where a woman is beating up guys who have six inches and 50 pounds on her is totally ridiculous. Guys can’t really beat up guys that have inches and weight on them, it’s why combat sports have weight classes. And guys have much more muscle than women at equivalent weights.
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RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
FO and JS are nowhere near Raven's Jedi Knight games. The respawn games are just another where the lightsaber is a glowing baseball bat to beatdown enemies.
simpatico
Member
I will bet the deed to my house that there were conversations at Naughty Dog about Abby being ambiguously trans.
Alebrije
Member
Becuase Outlwas is just a Breakpoint with Star Wars skin. The same way Avatar is a Far Cry Game.
UBI is basically doing circles on the same gameplay mechanics , and that alone could not be Bad, the Main problem is that they not improve them. By example we have Souls games , they play the same core mechanics but each Game complements it with unique technics( weapons, armors,.movements) SO the games feel different. Even Elden Ring DLC feels different vs the core.game. UBI instead does nothing , if You play with Sniper rifles on Far Cry, they feel the same no matter the Game, is the same Sniper just with different skin.
This Game without the SW label would sell less surely.
UBI is basically doing circles on the same gameplay mechanics , and that alone could not be Bad, the Main problem is that they not improve them. By example we have Souls games , they play the same core mechanics but each Game complements it with unique technics( weapons, armors,.movements) SO the games feel different. Even Elden Ring DLC feels different vs the core.game. UBI instead does nothing , if You play with Sniper rifles on Far Cry, they feel the same no matter the Game, is the same Sniper just with different skin.
This Game without the SW label would sell less surely.
Alebrije
Member
Off topic , but Monster is one scenario of how Ellie from TLOU could end. and if.done good could be good.This 200x
I don't know if anyone exist in real life that GaF would be ok with being modeled in a video game based on something they do in real life. I mean, Abby is literally modeled from a person in real life that does cross fit and folks was like "ok, but can a girl really get dem gains in real life doe"? lol
They'll turn anything into a "it must be a simulation" or "historical accuracy" as some smokescreen to hate on something.
We can have the film Monster etc, no issues.
The moment we make a Monster video game "derrr how come her BOOBS IS NOT BIG and she is UGLYfied on purpose?"
Its like gamers have this low iq of thinking of any of this and try to force this weird 1 size fits all, they must all be pretty etc
MALpractice311
Member
Soooooooo what Gamespot is saying is it's a Ubisoft game. Is anyone surprised by this? If I'm surprised by anything, it's the candor of this preview. Normally previews consistent of blowing the games and their creators, in order to stay on the publisher's good side and keep getting preview/review copies and invites to big events.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hopefully, they add the cast from The Acolyte as playable characters.
I watched the first two episodes of this.........this was/is a big budget production?
Mister Wolf
Member
The power of many......
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Uncharted had great writing? Since when?