GHG
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Is he free to come and go as he pleases?
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GTA 6 Hacker Sentenced Indefinitely to a Hospital Rehab Program
Is he free to come and go as he pleases?
Elysium44
Banned
Doctors declared him unfit to be held criminally responsible, are you saying you want them to ignore his mental issues and give him a long jail sentence instead? Because that's what he'd have got. The UK is signed up to the ECHR for better or worse, so if a court had tried doing that when there is ample evidence of his autism then it would be overturned on appeal.
Hudo
Member
So let's lock him away for life because he leaked some shit about a video game that was one of the worst-kept secrets in the whole industry and will sell tens of millions of copies regardless. I am sure the CEO of R* is crying in his golden bed.
NonPhixion
Member
Elysium44
Banned
No.
Putonahappyface
Member
"using an Amazon Firestick, his Hotel TV and a mobile phone".
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NonPhixion
Member
There is a bbc article you can both read?
Elysium44
Banned
That isn't the only thing he did, nor why he's being detained.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I just read the tweets so far...so Tom Warren is exaggerating.
NonPhixion
Member
We need to get some of you gaffers on a 5150, I think.
Hudo
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This guys seems to be extremely talented.
Get him hired.
Get him hired.
GHG
Member
No sir. He’s there on psychiatric hold until doctors deem he is fit. Much different then a prison parole board.
Ok glad we cleared that one up.
Funny that they don't hesitate to call the same place that he's going a "prison" when someone escapes though:
Escaped prisoner Ian McLean found dead in cell in Poland
A prisoner who escaped to Poland is found dead in his cell ahead of a court appearance to extradite him.
www.bbc.com
"read the BBC" indeed.
It's a hospital prison. The UK just tends to take a "softer" approach when labelling these places (when appropriate). See above.
It's a complicated issue and I don't have all the answers, but sticking some hacker kid in the same place that will have people who have committed violent crimes doesn't make much sense.
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Audiophile
Gold Member
Kid needs a job, hacking R* with an Amazon Firestick is seriously impressive, getting it to stream television is difficult enough.
NonPhixion
Member
So do you consider the Littlemore Mental Health Centre to be a prison? Perhaps we have different ideas on what constitutes a prison.Ok glad we cleared that one up.
Funny that they don't hesitate to call the same place that he's going a "prison" when someone escapes though:
Escaped prisoner Ian McLean found dead in cell in Poland
A prisoner who escaped to Poland is found dead in his cell ahead of a court appearance to extradite him.www.bbc.com
"read the BBC" indeed.
It's a hospital prison. The UK just tends to take a "softer" approach when labelling these places (when appropriate). See above.
It's a complicated issue and I don't have all the answers, but sticking some hacker kid in the same place that will have people who have committed violent crimes doesn't make much sense.
GHG
Member
The Infectious Paradox
Gold Member
FREE ARION
NonPhixion
Member
GHG
Member
That's not up to me. This is now about how we are supposed to be defining this place.
The BBC when someone goes in:
"secure hospital"
The BBC when someone escapes that very same place:
"a prisoner who escaped"
Is it a prison or is it not a prison, that is the question.
Not my fault even the BBC can't stay consistent in their reporting. Let's call a spade a spade, it's a fucking prison and he'll be mixing it with violent criminals who are much older than him.
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NonPhixion
Member
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
GHG
Member
Well in that case feel free to check yourself in and keep us posted on how this kid is getting on.
NonPhixion
Member
Lucifers Beard
Member
Harsh for what it is. Someone with skills as good as that in this field could be really useful in cyber security. That or Rockstar just have shit security...
Aaron Olive
Member
Bro needs to be working for the FBI/DOD or CIA he should have taken a deal…
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Again, ignorant. This is not about who he committed the offense to. Or how well the thing will go on to sell. It's about the crime he committed. People who hack power and transport servers or steal people's identities don't start from there, they start from hacks like these that people like you would say are not a big deal.
And he isn't being locked up for life.. read the damn article.
No there isnt. And thats my issue with you guys defending this stuff. Its that whole, well as long as its not happening to me its fine thing.
Can you imagine some people within Rockstar have probably lost their jobs because of this hack? Cause you know, that's what these corporations do. That could be what, 5? 10? 20? that are now out of a job. All because some petulant child decided to get some internet cred.
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
Dp...
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Elysium44
Banned
He's British so why would he work for those when we have our own alphabet agencies... MI5/MOD/MI6/GCHQ etc.
Katatonic
Member
His cell.
Hudo
Member
I did now. Which you would've gotten if you read the thread a bit further. But oh well.
CuNi
Member
I would understand that reasoning when the company he hacked would've gone out of business or actual people were harmed, but this is just about money.
It's not even about a huge impact on the company, and yet he gets a worse punishment than actual people who either straight out kill others or rape them, which is a lasting impact for life on them.
If you don't think this is a fucked up system, then I don't know what to tell you.
GHG
Member
You've got to be joking me.
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The only way a company like them or Nvidia are firing someone is because they want to. Meanwhile the execs still comfortably take home millions (sometimes hundreds of millions if they offload stock) on an annual basis. Doesn't make his actions just, but lets have a little perspective here.
You compared him to a violent criminal in your previous post. That's not what he is (not even close) but due to the environment he's about to be placed in at such a young age its what he could become.
You can walk down any major high street in the UK (particularly in London) after dark and scoop up hundreds of mentally unstable individuals who have (or are about to) commit violent crimes such as stabbings, murders, rapes, theft, etc. Many of these individuals will be off their faces on drugs and alcohol. They continue to roam the streets and make them unsafe for normal people to go about their business while this (clearly talented) hacker kid ends up spending life in a high security mental facility (aka, a prison).
The aforementioned criminals have nothing positive to offer society and pose an immediate threat. Meanwhile they could get this kid working in some capacity where he's helping national security (which in turn further aids public safety).
Something is not right here and people should start seeing it for what it is considering this is how their tax money is being used. Corporations are being protected with more urgency and severity than anything that involves the safety and comfort of the people.
The judge and jury have failed here, other recommendations could have been made while still maintaining public order. They have failed this kid, and they are failing the public (although the latter is nothing new).
Anyway, considering the way that some people are applauding this ruling and fail to see how ridiculous it is in the grand scheme of things, I'm glad I left the UK a long while ago. At least it's not my tax money they are chucking away like this.
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GamesDontSuck
Member
I honestly thought he was pleading insanity to get off the charges. You know yourself it's an age old defense but ... saying he would do it again and doing this while he was on the nvidia charge does sound like not all his dogs are barking sadly.
Clearly an intelligent man in many ways but yeah, I am starting to think it's not an act.
Clearly an intelligent man in many ways but yeah, I am starting to think it's not an act.
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Party McHardy
Member
This. Someone needs to hire this guy.
phant0m
Member
So much focus on the “sentence” in this thread.
can we talk about the fucking BALLS you need to hack another multinational corporation with a Fire TV stick while under police protection for the last cybercrime you committed?
Anywho, now that’s kid never gonna be allowed to even look at an electric toothbrush.
can we talk about the fucking BALLS you need to hack another multinational corporation with a Fire TV stick while under police protection for the last cybercrime you committed?
Anywho, now that’s kid never gonna be allowed to even look at an electric toothbrush.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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The game sells millions, you can easily buy a Bugatti or more with GTA Vi release date sales
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