Cerebral Palsy
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123rl said:
You haven't even played Madden '06 have you?
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Having a monopoly is GOOOOOD!! (Madden blows up at retail)
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You haven't even played Madden '06 have you?
sonycowboy
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Amused_To_Death said:
A 26% increase (350,000 copies) is impressive anyway you put it, IMO.
I understand that ESPN isn't in the mix, but that's just one week. If the month were to be up 26%, we'd have ~2.7M copies sold in the month vs ~2.1M last year. I don't think any of us were expecting that even without ESPN.
Other factors: many people bought both, the DS version is unlikely to change the mix much, and the biggest of all the PSP & 360 versions are still to come.
I still find it incredibly impressive and I think from a business standpoint, that EA absolutely made the right move by going exclusive (although, reportedly it was the NFL who started it all, so EA just did what the had to do)
Also, I haven't bought Madden since 2001, so I have absolutely no EA or Madden allegiance here.
Cold Shadow
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Solid said:
Winning eleven kills Madden worldwide.
Cerebral Palsy said:
I played it last year...and the year before...and the year before that
No, I haven't played it and I have no intention of playing it. The Madden games are nowhere near as good as the ESPN American Football games were. Even if Madden was somehow much better this year, I still wouldn't buy an EA Sports game out of principle*
*I say EA Sports so I can get around my ethics and still get to buy Burnout and SSX4
Attack You
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GaimeGuy said:
That was my immediate thought, but refrained from replying to that in case I was missing out on something. :lol
Kabuki Waq
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123rl said:I played it last year...and the year before...and the year before that
No, I haven't played it and I have no intention of playing it. The Madden games are nowhere near as good as the ESPN American Football games were. Even if Madden was somehow much better this year, I still wouldn't buy an EA Sports game out of principle*
*I say EA Sports so I can get around my ethics and still get to buy Burnout and SSX4
actually the better players on this board all say ESPN had even more cheap money plays than madden.
I just think NFL games in genral are fucked cause of those money plays.
Frankfurter
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Cold Shadow said:
I really don't see how WE could sell more than Madden. It sells about a million in Japan and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't sell ~5m in Europe. Fifa Soccer perhaps could sell more than Madden(even though I don't think so) as it is definitely bigger than WE in Europe.
Cold Shadow
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Frankfurter said:
And you are definitely not from Europe. Fifa soccer was big like 5 years ago.
PES owns now, first month sales in europe were over 1 million.
ZombieSupaStar
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go madden go!
I bought 4 copies of ea sports this summer!
2 maddens and 2 ncaa (1 each for my cousin and me)
im glad I did my part!
I bought 4 copies of ea sports this summer!
2 maddens and 2 ncaa (1 each for my cousin and me)
im glad I did my part!
:lol :-(Wellington said:
Don't make me use it.
Where's AirBrian? I need him to come in here and repeat how 06 won't outsell 05. :lol
Hey, I was wrong. I'll take that crow now.
But I still think that 2005 GCN/PS2/XBX will outsell 2006 GCN/PS2/XBX. But I'll probably be wrong again. :lol
sonycowboy said:
Um... you put these numbers in the thread...
July & August ESPN sales last year
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XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 385,660 311,359
PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 406,083 448,433
...and then declare this increase "impressive"? How? It's pretty obvious that Madden has soaked up the 2K series sales simply because there is no competing game. The real increase is probably negligible once you remove the 2K fans from the equation who were FORCED into buying Madden if they wanted a football game with updated rosters.
..pakbeka..
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GaimeGuy said:
konami has the license of a few european teams, but most of the roster is "made up"
hukasmokincaterpillar
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..pakbeka.. said:
WE acquired the license for the Italian, Spanish and Dutch leagues last year. EPL is the only big Euro league that still alludes Konami... yet PES still outsold FIFA on the PS2 in Europe. Also I'd guess over 95% of the players at the club level have their real names and likeness in the game. The FIFA license EA has doesn't cover the players apparently.
sonycowboy
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Dave Long said:
Yes I do. It's impressive. For a whole host of reasons:
Those 760,000 bought ESPN NFL2k @ 19.99. So, if Madden does increase by ~600,000:
a) They essentially managed to capture half of the ESPN buyers right off the bat (+/- some percentage of folks who bought both)
b) The dollars spent on football games increased from ESPN to Madden from $15M to $30M, which is double for those non math majors out there, despite the units actually being less. Or in another way, they'd have already eaten ALL of ESPN's dollars sales for the two months (July & August of 2004) in the first month of 2005.
c) We've still got PSP & 360 to go.
d) We're in a transition year, where console software sales are flat to down and the 10% that we are up by YTD are a result of the PSP and to a lesser extent DS software sales. And in this environment, both NCAA & Madden are showing 20%+ sales increases. And sales increases for franchises that big are incredibly difficult to come by.
EA execs are dancing on their corporate board rooms tables tonight and sipping champagne.
I didn't say it would be the only killer app.
People buy consoles for different reasons, for different games. Some people don't care about the usual launch titles, which usually consist of some 1st party games, followed by some 3rd party games that aren't usually large in scope and production.
From my memory, never has a console launched with a high profile sports game. Sometimes they launch with an unproven first party sports game.
So there's two things going for MS this time round. Firstly, Madden will be released during the launch window, and secondly, it's the ONLY football game out and as such it has been selling quite well.
Also realize that there are many casual gamers that only own a PS2 and the Madden titles. They may have a couple of other games, but there is only one reason why they have that PS2, and it's for Madden. I set up an HT for a Dentist, and all he had for his PS2 were all the Maddens, plus a few other games. The first thing he wanted to see on his new TV and to hear over his new reciever and speakers was Madden. I know he's gonna get a 360 just for Madden. I can see many people doing the same.
It really has nothing to do with MS's lineup, but rather the type of gamers you'll find in the North American market.
People buy consoles for different reasons, for different games. Some people don't care about the usual launch titles, which usually consist of some 1st party games, followed by some 3rd party games that aren't usually large in scope and production.
From my memory, never has a console launched with a high profile sports game. Sometimes they launch with an unproven first party sports game.
So there's two things going for MS this time round. Firstly, Madden will be released during the launch window, and secondly, it's the ONLY football game out and as such it has been selling quite well.
Also realize that there are many casual gamers that only own a PS2 and the Madden titles. They may have a couple of other games, but there is only one reason why they have that PS2, and it's for Madden. I set up an HT for a Dentist, and all he had for his PS2 were all the Maddens, plus a few other games. The first thing he wanted to see on his new TV and to hear over his new reciever and speakers was Madden. I know he's gonna get a 360 just for Madden. I can see many people doing the same.
It really has nothing to do with MS's lineup, but rather the type of gamers you'll find in the North American market.
sonycowboy
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Fight for Freeform said:
sonycowboy said:
You're off by AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE!!
And if you believe that Madden 360 will be more than a new paint job with some new buzz words added, you're just the kind of folk EA is looking for. Not that the graphical upgrade won't be spectacular, but it's going to be the same game, IMO.
Oops, my mistake about the total number of copies sold.
Madden 360 will be like Madden on the PS2, but with better graphics, more animation, better sounds, and far better online play.
Why stick with the inferior version?
Especially if you love the game, you'll buy the 360 for it.
Do you like Madden? Do you really like it? Prove it by buying a 360.
Madden 360 will be like Madden on the PS2, but with better graphics, more animation, better sounds, and far better online play.
Why stick with the inferior version?
Especially if you love the game, you'll buy the 360 for it.
Do you like Madden? Do you really like it? Prove it by buying a 360.
Frankfurter
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Cold Shadow said:
I am definitely from Europe(to be more precise: from Germany)!
I really don't have exact figures for both games, but everytime I see top 10 charts(without numbers of course) from Germany, France or the UK Fifa is BIG like hell! Even this shitty Fifa Street game was in the top 5 or sth. for months!