Unions are worse, imo. But like I said, I’m a company first guy. It’s served me well my entire life.Employees create the wealth, they should come first.
Join your union today!
Your initial reply more or less accused me of being a console warrior? Like what, I'm an Xbox fanboy who is dancing in Sony's grave? Your question didn't deserve a serious answer.
It's an entirely reasonable assumption considering your statement and the following:
You say all of this as though Sony is unique in their layoffs (or even disproportionately sweeping in them), and is if the reason for it is because of the cinematic stuff that other companies do (if not as well or successfully).
If you think their main attraction and what's absolutely defined them since the PS3 and through the PS4 (arguably earlier) is arrogant bs and you're happy to see them fail, why have you been giving them so much money to where you're apparently a key consumer? You'll excuse me if I don't believe you or think that it's a sign or rank immaturity.
Dude you are white knighting for a company that has already acknowledged everything I've said in this thread.
Acknowledged how?
Read the edits I made to the previous post.
Again, acknowledged how? Also, please, don't presume to little man me when you're in here playing into layoff hysterics or studio closures. This shit isn't new for the industry or for Sony.
You should read the thread title and Herman's statement.
Uh, I think you should read them. I did, and no where does Hulst say anything like what you said.You should read the thread title and Herman's statement.
You're right, my mistake. When Herman said "reevaluating" he clearly meant more focus and more money for what their first parties are already doing. I mean hell, laying off 900 people and closing a studio is clearly a sign that things are going swimmingly.
Lol whut?You're right, my mistake. When Herman said "reevaluating" he clearly meant more focus and more money for what their first parties are already doing. I mean hell, laying off 900 people and closing a studio is clearly a sign that things are going swimmingly.
Not all gaming companies are laying people off, it's the ones who have lost the plot and need to course correct. Sony has clearly lost the plot and needs to course correct.
Tell me where I'm wrong. Like what in the world am I reading?
Small pp energy with this post.
"Clearly Sony lost the plot".
That's a strawman argument.
I cannot participate in this thread anymore. People acting like closing a studio and laying off 900 people is perfectly normal and a sign of good management. There's no conversation to be had if people legitimately see this as healthy and normal.
I know it's not exclusive to the games industry. My main point is that Sony got arrogant with the first party bloat and GaaS push and it's clearly back firing on them. My 2nd point is that many Sony gamers want more variety when it comes to "blockbuster" games.
At least use a small font when you comment on my lil' pp.
FIX THIS FIRST:
I know it's from the Xbox Direct but I have no doubt Sony's western Studios have the same chill laid back tech corp culture that these big companies love to show off in their promotional videos.
Look, I know making games is hard alright, but why the fuck do you feel entitled to play pool, board games or chill in a hammock at the office? Hell, some of them are probably still working from home in their sweat pants sending emails about their favorite coffee brew. Get to work you overpaid adults babies.
I cannot participate in this thread anymore. People acting like closing a studio and laying off 900 people is perfectly normal and a sign of good management. There's no conversation to be had if people legitimately see this as healthy and normal.
How is the "GaaS push" backfiring, when the first one they've released since they've been talking about it is Helldivers 2?
Sony has always been doing that, so literally nothing changed in that regard.
I never said or implied that you're being hyperbolic, but Sony is adapting to offer more variety and to do exactly what you want from them.
They aren't struggling, they are performing than ever in total revenue, total profit, hardware revenue, software revenue, first party games revenue, accesories revenue, game subs revenue, off PS 1st party revenue, console brand MAU etc. in many cases being all time records for any console maker, not only Sony.
Good revenue and bad profit. I know. Cancelling games and cutting employees means struggling, though. I love to see it.
It is not out of the ordinary for Sony to cancel games.
Sony released GaaS titles since the PS3. Regarding these "12 IPs with GaaS titles" that Sony talked about recently, they already published MLB, Gran Turismo 7, Firewall Ultra (PSVR2) and Helldivers 2 (you may include Destiny here too).
Totoki said months ago that they were working in the 12 games, debunking rumors of having cancelled TLOU Online and the Deviation game.
I've been playing video games since Atari 2600, so I'm well aware that Playstation has been releasing multiplayer/GaaS titles for a long time.
Helldivers 2 is the first game among those 12 to release.
So that's already 3 games.
struggling?
No, according to Sony the first of the 12 franchises was MLB. Slide from 2021/2022:
Cool, thanks for sharing. I missed that.No, according to Sony the first of the 12 franchises was MLB. Slide from 2021/2022:
Updated page for last year:
Notice Gran Turismo 7 isn't listed as a "single-player game catalog" or "live services game catalog" because these graphs seem to be to differentiate the type of products, but GT7 can be included in both sides.
I'd say they don't include here mobile games, as it's the case of Neon Koi game and the Horizon game with NC Soft.
- Out of the 12 (later, when acquired they added Bungie) this year they'll have in the market MLB, Gran Turismo, Destiny, Firewall, Helldivers, Concord (6 franchises)
- Theu cancelled TLOU Online and London new IP (8 franchises)
- Next year or later they should release Marathon, Fairgame$, Deviation's game (development seems to have been rebooted and delayed), Horizon Online, Firesprite MP game, another Bungie IP (14 franchises, so you could cancel 2 or move them outside the group because of their release date and you'd have the 12)
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claim that Sony somehow lost the plot.
Firesprite Twisted Metal Online cancelled. If that's the Firesprite MP game you are talking about, it can be moved to the cancelled bullet point. But if they had two games in development and yours is a keeper, then you can leave your bullet and just add TM to cancelled lineNo, according to Sony the first of the 12 franchises was MLB. Slide from 2021/2022:
Notice Gran Turismo 7 isn't listed as a "single-player game catalog" or "live services game catalog" because these graphs seem to be to differentiate the type of products, but GT7 can be included in both sides.
Updated page for last year:
I'd say they don't include here mobile games, as it's the case of Neon Koi game and the Horizon game with NC Soft.
- Out of the 12 (later, when acquired they added Bungie) this year they'll have in the market MLB, Gran Turismo, Destiny, Firewall, Helldivers, Concord (6 franchises, as estimated in the graph)
- They cancelled TLOU Online and London new IP (8 franchises)
- Next year or later -some beyond the initially estimated max. March 2026 target- they should release Marathon, Fairgame$, Deviation's game (development seems to have been rebooted and delayed), Horizon Online, Firesprite MP game, another Bungie IP (14 franchises, so you could cancel 2 or move them outside the group because of their release date and you'd have the 12)
Struggling isn't the word but I'm sure you don't know as you spent about 7~ seconds forumulating your words of widsom.
Source?
I've been wanting more Non-Photorealistic Rendering (NPR) techniques in more AAA titles for a while now. I think the Superhero genre would benefit from cell shaded and stylized aesthetic.
You're right. I should forumulate better words of widsom.
I think we made progress
With the way games are made nowadays so will the ps5/series x nothing pushing hardware nowadays.
