StreetsofBeige
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Dont give IKEA ideas.
DICE employees will get hired, rework the stores using Frostbite, and the moment the stores have a grand re-opening the rooves collapse.
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How many failures will DICE be allowed to make before EA gets rid of them?
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DICE employees will get hired, rework the stores using Frostbite, and the moment the stores have a grand re-opening the rooves collapse.
ResetEraVetVIP
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This^ Odd...
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drezz
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Levolution 2.0 - Autom Season
FunkMiller
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Did OP buy Battlefield 2042 before knowing how bad it was?
The answer to that may help to answer his own question.
The answer to that may help to answer his own question.
Stuart360
Member
I'd love to know what metric you are using to say that as Halo has been near doubling 2042's player count daily since launch. (right now its 30k vs 65k in favour ofHalo).
Edit. Beaten to it.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Majima Everywhere System
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DICE ruined EA. Not the other way.
To stop riding the DICE train to hell is to admit a horrible, multi decade mistake. They couid have Burnout and Need for Speed getting Forza Horizon hype, top sports games in all categories, a functional Bioware. The Dead Space team. Talent fled this engine.
To stop riding the DICE train to hell is to admit a horrible, multi decade mistake. They couid have Burnout and Need for Speed getting Forza Horizon hype, top sports games in all categories, a functional Bioware. The Dead Space team. Talent fled this engine.
RoadHazard
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Aren't EA and Dice kind of the same thing these days? Dice isn't like a regular studio that EA owns, they're intertwined with the organization. There's Frostbite, there's the head of Dice that became head of EA, etc.
Slicker than your average
Banned
The game is currently trash I'm glad I cancelled the preorder. I can't believe how badly unpolished this shit is. I'm sure there's a good game in there in 6 months time
winjer
Gold Member
Yes, Halo doesn't have a barrier for entry.
But if the game was bad, gamers would abandon it and leave bad reviews.
BF 2042 is free on EA Pass. For people who already have it, it's there to try for free.
I bet a lot of people bought a month subscription just to try it without spending a lot of money.
Shut0wen
Member
Was thinking this when bf2042 came out, currently all the best people that worked there have all left, bf2042 has had 4-3 development cycle, has less content then the previous games and has still came out worst, EA wont close them down purely for frostbite, but EA need to do something, maybe get vince campbell to sort them out lije he did with the LA studio
Klik
Member
As a huge BF fan i'm so tired and disappointed seeing game always trying to pursue mechanics of other games, now like like Apex/Warzone..
Battlefield has and always had its own identity and people play because this.
EA, how much money do you want from Battlefield? Were BF1 sales of 16million+microtransactions not enough? Cmon i bet if you make true Battelfield game with best game mechanics of BF4/BF5 it would sell like hot muffins
Battlefield has and always had its own identity and people play because this.
EA, how much money do you want from Battlefield? Were BF1 sales of 16million+microtransactions not enough? Cmon i bet if you make true Battelfield game with best game mechanics of BF4/BF5 it would sell like hot muffins
ultrazilla
Gold Member
100% NAILED IT.
I was literally talking about this last night when my brother
Solarstrike
and I were playing the game. How the hell does Dice manage to fuck up every single BF launch when they've literally came offanother BF game that for the most part, they've patched up nicely?! BF 4 to BF1, BF1-BF 5 for example. Pretty much every single title from BF 4 to current has launched pretty roughly but Dice ends up fixing them
for a vast majority of players(every player is different so not everyone will agree but you know what I'm getting at).
Taken all of this development into consideration, Dice should be launching BF games that are freaking rock solid and feature complete and realize what works and doesn't work for the title as they iterate.
It's maddening. They piss the bed every damn time.
All this monumental shit show makes me believe the "conspiracy theory" that BF 2042 was going to be radically different from past BF titles and was going to move towards a "Apex Legends"/Pub G/Battle Royale type GAAS game. "Operators"(characters you can "unlock" in a GAAS style game), a hastily thrown together ranking system/UI, map design that doesn't feel like typical BF map flow/layouts for it's game types like Conquest, and so on just solidify my feelings on it. They obviously got called on it during development from "testers/influencers" or realized themselves that they'd have an EPIC backlash of loyal players and tank the entire I.P. if they went ahead with a full on GAAS Battlefield game. Something changed their minds(common sense?!) and they pivoted at the last moment and threw together what we're playing now.
If it's not that, then all I can say is Dice needs to put the H.R. PuffNStuff magic pipe down and get their heads on straight.
kuncol02
Banned
Always were. Since Bf3 their games are glorified tech demos.
Winter John
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I've seen a lot of people praising BF4 and upholding it as some kind of standard. I reckon none of them played it when it launched because that thing was easily as bad as the new one is. If not worse. Constant freezes and crashing, bugs everywhere. Players hiding under maps or out of bounds. It took months to fix that thing. It had more content, better maps and customisation for sure but on a purely technical level it was probably a shit ton worse than 2042 is right now. They were still patching that thing a year after it was out.
R6Rider
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kuncol02
Banned
1. I'm never wrong.
2. If I'm wrong then look at point 1.
R6Rider
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Roufianos
Member
Jeez, 3 years to come up with a few MP maps, no SP and no notable gameplay improvements besides bloated player counts and map sizes.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
I guess we now know the answer.
DICE's head of design leaves the company.
Also:
And here's some info on sales:
DICE's head of design leaves the company.
Also:
And here's some info on sales:
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
More than seven million, so the numbers > quality
Iced Arcade
Member
You mean the studio that makes their game engines? Lol
TVexperto
Member
But hey, they are thinking about putting the "legacy feature" VOIP back in. Their communication is unbelievable arrogant.
Putting stuff back in, fixing bugs etc. – they make it sound like the shipped product is exactly what they wanted to achieve. That's a joke.
At my job it's called "finishing a product, before selling it"
Putting stuff back in, fixing bugs etc. – they make it sound like the shipped product is exactly what they wanted to achieve. That's a joke.
At my job it's called "finishing a product, before selling it"
winjer
Gold Member
True, but BFV was discounted to 25$, a month after release.
That's 2.5X less money for each copy they sold.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Here's the shakeup that was mentioned.
DICE's VP Oskar Gabrielson is leaving the studio:
(note: this Oskar Gabrielson)
Handling of the Battlefield franchise was moved away from DICE, and it's now under the control of Respawn's Vince Zampella. Halo designer Marcus Lehto is now hiring a new studio that will focus on making story content for future Battlefield titles, or perhaps even on time to include on BF2042 for a future DLC.
www.gamespot.com
It's also becoming increasingly clear that DICE will not be making any more Battlefront games either. In the last 10 years DICE only released Battlefield, Battlefront and a Mirror's Edge reboot in 2016 that wasn't very successful so it didn't get a sequel.
This leaves a total of zero franchises under DICE's control, meaning EA seems to have relegated it to a support studio for Frostbite development.
DICE's VP Oskar Gabrielson is leaving the studio:
(note: this Oskar Gabrielson)
Handling of the Battlefield franchise was moved away from DICE, and it's now under the control of Respawn's Vince Zampella. Halo designer Marcus Lehto is now hiring a new studio that will focus on making story content for future Battlefield titles, or perhaps even on time to include on BF2042 for a future DLC.
Battlefield Franchise Undergoes Major Shake-Up
EA announces a restructuring of its development teams as it looks to grow Battlefield.
www.gamespot.com
It's also becoming increasingly clear that DICE will not be making any more Battlefront games either. In the last 10 years DICE only released Battlefield, Battlefront and a Mirror's Edge reboot in 2016 that wasn't very successful so it didn't get a sequel.
This leaves a total of zero franchises under DICE's control, meaning EA seems to have relegated it to a support studio for Frostbite development.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I think DICE as a game studio might be done. At least the Stockholm variant. They will likely be relegated to support for 2042 and Frostbite development. With Zampella in control and new studios making games hopefully we see improvement for 2042 and the new games they want to release.
MiguelItUp
Member
I mean, it's changing as much as it possibly can right now. It already had with, and after, BF1. BF makes EA too much money for them to just drop DICE, but this DICE isn't the same DICE anymore. A lot of those people have moved on already.
They can still come back around, but come on man, look at what the Battlefield series is, and has been. It's ups and downs, what makes it successful, etc. All the talk about memorable characters and stories already sounds so incredibly off putting. Vince does great work, and I'd like to think that he can help that sinking ship, but I really don't know.
They can still come back around, but come on man, look at what the Battlefield series is, and has been. It's ups and downs, what makes it successful, etc. All the talk about memorable characters and stories already sounds so incredibly off putting. Vince does great work, and I'd like to think that he can help that sinking ship, but I really don't know.
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