Rocco Schiavone
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This is true. Also the Saints Row Reboot sucks. To make things clear.
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I do not trust any game magazine or website!
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Such activity is so prevalent that you can just throw out the accusation and have no need for proof.
. . .I mean honestly, which game were you looking forward to got a bad review?
Captain Toad
Banned
Give me examples where you believe the metacritic scores show the game reviews were paid for.
Patrick S.
Banned
Cyberpunk
K2D
Banned
To be fair, there should only be thumbs up or thumbs down on user reviews unless they go through a screening prosess. This is mostly how users score games.I must say it's quite a fun game looking at user "reviews" for popular/unpopular games
"0/10 - mediocre"
0-1 Don't recommend
7 Avarage
10 Recommend
Agreed for critics score. Sadly old habits die hard!
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Just do your own info gathering from as many sources as you need to decide whether it's for you.
BTW I agree that many reviews are in a sense "paid for". This industry uses early or special access in ways that biases outlets and increasingly, Youtubers (especially the successful youtube channels). Even if they are not even aware of their own bias, as soon as you have any kind of relationship with a developer or publisher, they have a conflict of interest.
BTW I agree that many reviews are in a sense "paid for". This industry uses early or special access in ways that biases outlets and increasingly, Youtubers (especially the successful youtube channels). Even if they are not even aware of their own bias, as soon as you have any kind of relationship with a developer or publisher, they have a conflict of interest.
Quantum253
Member
At this point, I'm more concerned about the performance/bugs when it comes to reviews. Personal opinions should be just that. So many times I hear people schilling for their free early copy of the newest game. To the point it's like watching developers demo their games like at E3. However, that's not to say all are like this and I'm sure there are still honest reviews/opinions out there.
This isn't also only just in the game space. It's increasingly getting harder to buy anything with having to wade through a thousand articles/videos/opinions on "what is the best" for whatever it is your looking for. For example, I just tried to find a 45w super fast charger and got caught up in all the opnions. All that lead to was decision fatigue. I questioned myself on why all the stress and just bought one. And that was for a stupid $30 charging brick.
Spending $70 on an experience/game probably makes it worse for some. I'm curious how many people miss out on games because of the decision fatigue? You know what you like and you don't like and whether something is worth the risk of investing. That is why I think physical games are important because you can sell it and recoup some of the cost if you choose. Digital is okay too, either way , you have to be okay with investing your time/money into the product. If it doesn't work out, move on and let that help you make an informed decision next time.
Trying to live by the opnions and reviews of thousands of people is just going to make every purchase, including games, a grind and take everything enjoyable from it.
This isn't also only just in the game space. It's increasingly getting harder to buy anything with having to wade through a thousand articles/videos/opinions on "what is the best" for whatever it is your looking for. For example, I just tried to find a 45w super fast charger and got caught up in all the opnions. All that lead to was decision fatigue. I questioned myself on why all the stress and just bought one. And that was for a stupid $30 charging brick.
Spending $70 on an experience/game probably makes it worse for some. I'm curious how many people miss out on games because of the decision fatigue? You know what you like and you don't like and whether something is worth the risk of investing. That is why I think physical games are important because you can sell it and recoup some of the cost if you choose. Digital is okay too, either way , you have to be okay with investing your time/money into the product. If it doesn't work out, move on and let that help you make an informed decision next time.
Trying to live by the opnions and reviews of thousands of people is just going to make every purchase, including games, a grind and take everything enjoyable from it.
Nocturno999
Member
I mostly use Steam reviews. Minus review bombing, they are the most accurate and honest overall.
I even recommend it to console players ignoring performance issues obviously.
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BbMajor7th
Member
There sadly aren't a lot of journalists in gaming coverage. It's mostly freelance video game enthusiasts doubling as 'insiders' (they're not - trust me) and social media personalities. Most sites are run on an advertising model so the the main driver of content is clicks/impressions not overall quality or impartiality.
Captain Toad
Banned
Cyberpunk has a 86 Metacritic on PC and a 57 Metacritic on PS4.
How much do you think CDPR bribed journalists for those scores?
Heimdall_Xtreme
Banned
Touche.
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RainblowDash
Gold Member
Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
My keys are a few online sites, but mostly regular real players like yall!! 
Shut0wen
Member
Amazing how many skitzos believe in paid reviews, theres no such thing, they dont need to pay them when they can take them to a 5 star hotel with all you can eat while you preview a video game as a form of guilt tripping, this happens in every media, its even worst for movies, believe me a majority of people dont give a fuck about reviews so it aint worth paying for, though i will say alot of dodgey shit does happen like cyberpunk for example, every reviewer was made to review it on top of the line pcs because it was far less buggy, you should probably stick to sites that review games but dont mark them for anything just purely an opinion piece
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Shut0wen
Member
True but tbf ign is getting way less political, havnt played hogwarts but they did a decent job reviewing it, think they only mentioned jk once lmao
Raonak
Banned
"I don't trust IGN reviews, but I trust {random youtuber #235564}" - yeah no. They're the same shit.
Every game/website/influencer has their own opinions and things they value in games.
They sometimes align with mine, they sometimes don't. That's OK.
Reviews are only useful for informing you about the general quality of a game. It has little to do with whether I'll like the game.
Aggregate User reviews are pretty bad as well, especially prone to fail for games that piss off the masses.
Every game/website/influencer has their own opinions and things they value in games.
They sometimes align with mine, they sometimes don't. That's OK.
Reviews are only useful for informing you about the general quality of a game. It has little to do with whether I'll like the game.
Aggregate User reviews are pretty bad as well, especially prone to fail for games that piss off the masses.
bitbydeath
Member
The whole process is flawed from the beginning where reviewers receive free copies, if they paid for them the number they give could be quite different as they’d then be basing the score on a cost/enjoyment ratio and not just, here’s another game on the pile.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Gaming journos are worthless. Find people who's integrity you trust, and who's taste in gaming aligns with yours. Those are the people you need to follow for making purchasing decisions.
Renoir
Member
in game battle music
K2D
Banned
They didn't. They manipulated them and greased them. Withholding PS4 review codes and pushing embargo back.
That's more on CD project.
I see indie games, particularly hard games and old school 2d platformers get a lot of flak. I tend to look at user score as how much/many people like certain games, and not how good the games are.I must say it's quite a fun game looking at user "reviews" for popular/unpopular games
"0/10 - mediocre"
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So you don’t trust journalist reviews because they’re bought and paid for - but you’re cool with the website that averages all of those bought and paid for reviews into one number.
Makes no damn sense.
20cent
Banned
I don't read reviews, don't watch gaming youtubers and don't care about the hype. And I play games weeks or months after their release (except few GamePass accessible ones)
There are almost no "bad" games released since the last 10+ years. So if I like the style/art/theme or video I come across of the said game, I'll get it and play it.
For the indies, same thing, I'll pick the ones that sound interesting from word of mouth.
There are almost no "bad" games released since the last 10+ years. So if I like the style/art/theme or video I come across of the said game, I'll get it and play it.
For the indies, same thing, I'll pick the ones that sound interesting from word of mouth.
Grizzled Ghost
Member
I agree, that's one of the reasons Steam reviews are really the only ones I look at. That and you're required to actually play the game before you can leave a review.
Aenima
Member
The moment anyone can write a review on metacritic without owning the game, its the moment it became useless. The user score is just to review bomb and console war. Reason 90% os the reviews are 0/10 or 10/10
Steam user reviews are the only ones worth taking in consideration as you can even see how much time the user spent with the game.
In my case the critics metacritic average match more with my own opinion. There are always cases where i find games overrated or underrated, but thats why i read a few resumes from various websites to make a better opinion, and dont take the numerical rating too serious.
I dont read a full game review since the PS3 gen. Been using Metacritic just to have an idea how the game has been received by the critics, then if it looks interesting to me i watch some gameplay footage and make my purchase decision based on that.
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Hoho for breakfast
Member
You're naive if you trust any single source of info (for anything).
Susurrus
Member
Generally my process for playing games in order:
- Did I like the previous game in the series? If it doesn't have a previous game (new IP):
- Did I like the demo? If it doesn't have a demo:
- Did I get it free from PSPlus (Essential), Games With Gold, Epic, Prime, etc? If not:
- Wait till it is on sale ridiculously cheap and maybe pick it up if it looks like something I'd like and maybe suggested, by then the hype is over and I have minimal risk.
I've bought many games off of demos, but unfortunately there's not many. There's also plenty of situations where I got a game free from a service, liked it, and then bought the next one (Plague Tale, Horizon, Bloodstained are a few).
- Did I like the previous game in the series? If it doesn't have a previous game (new IP):
- Did I like the demo? If it doesn't have a demo:
- Did I get it free from PSPlus (Essential), Games With Gold, Epic, Prime, etc? If not:
- Wait till it is on sale ridiculously cheap and maybe pick it up if it looks like something I'd like and maybe suggested, by then the hype is over and I have minimal risk.
I've bought many games off of demos, but unfortunately there's not many. There's also plenty of situations where I got a game free from a service, liked it, and then bought the next one (Plague Tale, Horizon, Bloodstained are a few).
Grizzled Ghost
Member
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I haven’t listened to reviewers since the PS2 era.
MacReady13
Member
I mean, weren’t the genuine people in gamergate saying this exact same thing years ago?
Either way, I completely agree. Don’t trust them and don’t read them anymore. Generally read what you guys and gals on here say for some valid opinions plus a few trusted YouTubers.
Either way, I completely agree. Don’t trust them and don’t read them anymore. Generally read what you guys and gals on here say for some valid opinions plus a few trusted YouTubers.
mrmustard
Banned
If
If reviews are bought and sold, how can you trust Metacritic? The whole Mectacritic system is ridiculous, there are games with dozens of perfect 100 score.
If reviews are bought and sold, how can you trust Metacritic? The whole Mectacritic system is ridiculous, there are games with dozens of perfect 100 score.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I'm finding new ways to trust the Internet and game reviews...
1. Don't trust any review for a game near launch.
2. Wait for some time after launch to purchase.
-this helps with patches etc.
3. Listen to trusted podcasts and actually vibe out the feedback, also people you trust on the Internet or in daily life who can offer feedback.
These reviewers are so caught up in hype and receiving huge marketing press bundles etc that they Darenth rock the boat on these big releases. Especially when we know companies literally black list them for negative reviews. How can any of them be trusted?
1. Don't trust any review for a game near launch.
2. Wait for some time after launch to purchase.
-this helps with patches etc.
3. Listen to trusted podcasts and actually vibe out the feedback, also people you trust on the Internet or in daily life who can offer feedback.
These reviewers are so caught up in hype and receiving huge marketing press bundles etc that they Darenth rock the boat on these big releases. Especially when we know companies literally black list them for negative reviews. How can any of them be trusted?
BabyYoda
Banned
It's beautifulyou can trust this review
, British gaming mags during the 90's/2000's were something special.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Most of the time watching a gameplay video tells me enough about a game.
Reviews are good when it comes to bugs, but stuff like Cyberpunk can happen which both obfuscates the reality for reviewers and gamers (the controlled gameplay vídeos)
Reviews are good when it comes to bugs, but stuff like Cyberpunk can happen which both obfuscates the reality for reviewers and gamers (the controlled gameplay vídeos)
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Why? You can look at previews to see if it is something you think you will like, and check aggregate reviews to make sure it doesn't have major issues. Obviously you need to verify it is not being review bombed, but overall the method is a reasonable way to filter out stinkers.
Spaceman292
Banned
Very true. It turns out I hate literally every game that releases. Thank god I don't have to actually play them.
K2D
Banned
Obviously there are user score totals that I agree to a lesser degree with but I don't fault that on individual reviews, because I view the total as a probability for me enjoying said game. Regardless of what the sites intent was with user score.
Disagree
Agree
Opencritic might be more accurate.
phant0m
Member
What’s a magazine?
Websites have fallen far imo. I pretty much just watch ACG, Skill Up and DF along with reading OTs.
Big shout out to
Karak
for “my brand is me, my sponsor is me” — generally speaking there’s too much conflict of interest with sponsors and advertisers in gaming sites.
Websites have fallen far imo. I pretty much just watch ACG, Skill Up and DF along with reading OTs.
Big shout out to
Karak
for “my brand is me, my sponsor is me” — generally speaking there’s too much conflict of interest with sponsors and advertisers in gaming sites.
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