Leonidas
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Good to see the various architectures progressing nicely. Skymont E-Cores seem very impressive, being compared to current gen P-Cores.
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Intel Computex 2024 Architecture Thread. Lunar Lake. Arc Battlemage. Lion Cove (P-Core) Skymont (E-Core)
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Good to see the various architectures progressing nicely. Skymont E-Cores seem very impressive, being compared to current gen P-Cores.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Let us see...
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I need to grab intel shares asap but I don't currently have any real funds. 
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Hudo
Gold Member
Ngl, Their usage of "μArch" for microarchitecture on their official slides makes me not wanna buy anything from them.
SolidQ
Member
Lion Cove vs Redwood Cove +14%
IPCSkymont vs Crestmont +38%
IPCSkymont vs Crestmont LP +68%
IPCSkymont vs Raptor Cove +2% IPC
2% vs Raptor
Hudo
Gold Member
And vs a 5800X3D?
SolidQ
Member
no info yet
Intel Xe2 GPUs Official: 50% Performance Uplift, New Ray Tracing Cores, Coming To Lunar Lake First & Battlemage Discrete Cards Later
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Hudo
Gold Member
Ok. Again. I don't doubt that they have cool numbers to show, like always, it's just that specific usage of "μArch" for microarchitecture on their official slides makes me not wanna buy anything from them.
SolidQ
Member
Same, unless they gonna very strong in future.
Hudo
Gold Member
And they aren't too overpriced.
winjer
Member
This is Lunar Lake, so it's only for mobile.
We'll have to wait for Arrow lake for desktop chips.
SolidQ
Member
Clock regression, no HT. Should be around 5-8% ipc
Unknown Soldier
Member
Intel details new Lunar Lake CPUs that will go up against AMD, Qualcomm, and Apple
Lunar Lake returns to a more conventional-looking design for Intel.
arstechnica.com
LOL wait a minute so Intel is going to integrated memory on package like Apple Silicon? I thought Windows PC users HATED non-upgradeable memory and shit all over Apple 24/7 about it LMAOOO
winjer
Member
But Lion Core on Lunar Lake is not Lion Core on Arrow Lake.
It kinda makes sense to remove SMT in a mobile part, as it saves ~5-10% transistors per core. And ~20% power.
Especially considering that Intel already has E-cores.
On servers, it's confirmed that Intel will keep SMT, as this helps a lot with server loads.
On desktops it's a mystery on what Intel will do.
Edit: Another advantage that removing SMT has, is that it can simplify the Thread Director.
Previously, it had to deal with an hierarchy of P-cores -> E-Cores -> SMT Thread.
Now, it only has to deal with the 2 first ones.
On the other hand, Intel has widened several stages on the CPU pipeline, be it on the frontend and backend.
So this can result on more unused stages. Which would benefit from having SMT.
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Now tell us about TDP or go bust. Also, good luck with memory package on mobile, this is pure cancer.
I'm rooting for Battlemage because Nvidia is a fat lazy cat, but Intel will find a way to ef it up eventually.
I'm rooting for Battlemage because Nvidia is a fat lazy cat, but Intel will find a way to ef it up eventually.
winjer
Member
Intel is using TSMC N3B and N6 for it's chiplets. So power usage should be good.
Yes, the memory package limits upgradability. But on mobile, few people do that.
So it's a problem, but not a huge one. On the other hand, it should lower memory latency a bit.
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M1chl
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For Laptops only, but yeah...Intel details new Lunar Lake CPUs that will go up against AMD, Qualcomm, and Apple
Lunar Lake returns to a more conventional-looking design for Intel.
LOL wait a minute so Intel is going to integrated memory on package like Apple Silicon? I thought Windows PC users HATED non-upgradeable memory and shit all over Apple 24/7 about it LMAOOO
Buggy Loop
Member
Bought 7 shares this morning (little to no $USD avail in my account). At that price Intel is undervalued I believe.
Bry0
Member
This looks really nice. Rooting for intel. More quality products and more competition is good. I never want to go through another 2012-2017 period of stagnant market leadership again, no matter who that leader is. Skymont and xe2 in particular look like great improvements, reviews will be interesting later this year.
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Jinzo Prime
Member
I want a non MSI handheld with this chip in it.
LordOfChaos
Member
Lunar Lake does look interesting. If they can deliver even 85% of the power efficiency gains of the WoA chips like the X Elite, will people bother switching? Intel's work here is defending the x86 marketshare.
Could get even harder next year when this guy makes a WoA chip
Could get even harder next year when this guy makes a WoA chip
Tarin02543
Member
That jacket must cost more than a 4090
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
I’m going to take a position. It’s a long-term play, but the shares are so cheap not to pick some up.
winjer
Member
Intel confirms Lunar Lake AI laptop CPUs will launch September 2024
Intel's confirmation comes just days after Taiwanese publication Digitimes reported a delay in the shipping date for the Lunar Lake lineup. In a statement refuting the claim,...
www.techspot.com