I just don't see the connection or bond in this trio that is typical of past actual trios. I am not even sure if these characters have even been on screen together yet. And if not then when have they fought together?
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Kingdom Hearts Community Thread: Now everybody can be a Keyblade Wielder!
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I just don't see the connection or bond in this trio that is typical of past actual trios. I am not even sure if these characters have even been on screen together yet. And if not then when have they fought together?
All the humanoid bosses in BbS are bullshit. I really hope they go back to the design of the KH2 bosses, they are amazing.
You literally fight with Skuld when you meet her and Ephemera shortly after you meet him. He's talking to the two of you in your dreams and the only time you've ever spoken in the game was to Skuld. You fought a foreteller for the sake of Ephemera, a fight the you had no chance of winning (she hit do hard that my reflect shattered FFS). The current plot of the game is you and Skuld trying to find Ephemera before the end of the world. They are absolutely a trio.
And Skuld is from Ephemera's party.
I wonder if we're really going to get both Unchained and 2.8 this year. While I think DDD HD has been ready for a while and that the game is being on hold until the team finishes Back Cover and BBS0.2, usually by this time in the year we already know if a KH is releasing in Fall. But if we don't get 2.8 this year, then what does that mean for KH3? Will they launch both 2.8 and KH3 in 2017?
As for Unchained, it's weird how it was announced to be released in here and then they stopped talking about it. Maybe they're waiting until the main scenario is complete so they release it in full in here, or maybe they decided to wait until 2.8/3's release is closer so the hype doesn't die down. Who knows.
As for Unchained, it's weird how it was announced to be released in here and then they stopped talking about it. Maybe they're waiting until the main scenario is complete so they release it in full in here, or maybe they decided to wait until 2.8/3's release is closer so the hype doesn't die down. Who knows.
NHarmonic.
Member
They didn't announce 2.5's release date until a week or two before E3, so I expect the same will happen with 2.8. Or at Square Enix's press conference if they have one this year. And I think they will be able to deliver 2.8 this year even if it's really late in the year like in December.
If 2.8 does come late in the year then they will probably space it out a bit from KH3. I'm guessing KH3 will come out around Q3 2017, maybe earlier.
The story is just a bit behind [chi] now. Skuld told us that Ephemera said the world was ending, the Foretellers are starting to fight, and basically everything is coming to a head. I'd like to think the scenario will be complete within a year, but I know that we still have to introduce the Enchanted Dominion (since we already have seen the Fairy Stars in the data files) and I'm pretty sure that they want to introduce the Castle of Dreams to get in the final Princess (aside from Kairi). And there's also the fact that we need to finish Olympus Colosseum, Argrabah, and Wonderland.
Aside from that, I adore Skuld's fighting style. She uses the keyblade like a rapier and she has this magic attack that has her bounce of mirrors in this blur of destruction. She's the best. I hope she survives the Keyblade War and shows up in KH3.
I'm trying really hard to follow Chi because the last time I went from main title to main title without doing any of the in-between stuff was KH1 to KH2, so I was completely lost during the CoM parts of the intro and why Sora was in a pod until I played CoM on my GBA sometime later. Although, with this game apparently not having an NA release so far, it's probably best that they omit Chi from the intro.
I'm certain that they are waiting for the story to finish just like they did with Re:coded.
Apropos of nothing:
So it's set in the past, but all the characters are from the present. Meaning, Skuld, [Player] and Ephemera could still show up in KH3. AND [Player] could be the KH3 multiplayer.
Apropos of nothing:
So it's set in the past, but all the characters are from the present. Meaning, Skuld, [Player] and Ephemera could still show up in KH3. AND [Player] could be the KH3 multiplayer.
NHarmonic.
Member
So the theory is that they are in a "sleeping" version of the past? That's why there's the mark of the dreameater in the cats?
So here's a video from Disney Infinity 3.0 showing off magic spells of the Kingdom Key.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrzIdJ7tuk
It shows off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrzIdJ7tuk
It shows off
Fire, Blizzard, Ars Arcanum, Stun Impact, and Ragnorak.
It bothers me that the Mickster isn't using the Kingdom Key D/Lightseeker. Other than that, pretty neat. Didn't think they would incorporate actual attacks from KH.
That's because everyone uses it.
Just like how the lightsaber could be used by anyone in 1.0
So cool! I was suprised to hear about this
So, is it likely that she'll have a new song for KH3?
Mediking
Member
So.... I gotta ask... Who here liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance and who here didn't like it? Please explain your answer.
I liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance overall. The beginning and ending of the game is the best but the middle...? Ehhhhh....
Yeah, there are some moves like Ballonara and Blizzaga (I think) that really help you and make you overpowered when you use them.
I just hate how Older Sora wasn't used as the player model. Go away, Younger Sora!!! You're cool but Older Sora's design is so much better!
The game was really picking up and actually had me shouting when this scene triggered...
I liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance overall. The beginning and ending of the game is the best but the middle...? Ehhhhh....
Yeah, there are some moves like Ballonara and Blizzaga (I think) that really help you and make you overpowered when you use them.
I just hate how Older Sora wasn't used as the player model. Go away, Younger Sora!!! You're cool but Older Sora's design is so much better!
The game was really picking up and actually had me shouting when this scene triggered...
So.... I gotta ask... Who here liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance and who here didn't like it? Please explain your answer.
I liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance overall. The beginning and ending of the game is the best but the middle...? Ehhhhh....
Yeah, there are some moves like Ballonara and Blizzaga (I think) that really help you and make you overpowered when you use them.
I just hate how Older Sora wasn't used as the player model. Go away, Younger Sora!!! You're cool but Older Sora's design is so much better!
The game was really picking up and actually had me shouting when this scene triggered...
I liked DDD. The flowmotion broke the platforming and the Drop system could be extremely annoying during boss battles, but I enjoyed having the BBS combat system and having two playable characters. I liked that they included detailed summaries for each game as they became relevant. And overall the weapon designs for this game were great. Also, the attention to detail during the Rinzler fight in the grid was fantastic. I do wish that the dream eaters didn't look so colorful and fluffy, at least not most of them.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
So.... I gotta ask... Who here liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance and who here didn't like it? Please explain your answer.
I liked Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance overall. The beginning and ending of the game is the best but the middle...? Ehhhhh....
Yeah, there are some moves like Ballonara and Blizzaga (I think) that really help you and make you overpowered when you use them.
I just hate how Older Sora wasn't used as the player model. Go away, Younger Sora!!! You're cool but Older Sora's design is so much better!
The game was really picking up and actually had me shouting when this scene triggered...
Kh3d would be my favorite in the series if not for one thing..
Dream eaters are crap and I'd have rather went solo.
Otherwise everything about 3d was awesome to me the plot,flowmotion,the switching between riku and sora.
I thibk thats why im loving how kh3 looks so much because so far it looks like the love child of kh3d and Bbs.
Also..
I absolutely loved Kingdom Hearts 3D. It took BBS's battle system and added an amazing degree of freedom to your movements. I always loved Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts 2 for Sora's mobility, but this was a whole different level.
I'm excited that they brought in and expanded on flowmotion in KH3
Didn't really like DDD much. Didn't like the command system so combat was boring, level design was TERRIBLE, drop system was stupid, hated everything about the dream eaters from them being your party members to your abilities being tied to them but, worst of all, I think this is the game where the plot finally shit the bed. I loooove KH2 so I'm definitely okay with a bunch of convoluted anime nonsense most of the time in my JRPGs, but DDD's ending just made me groan. Hope KH3 manages to turn it into something great, but as of now I'm really only looking forward to it because, well, it's fucking KH3, after a million years.
I enjoyed DDD a lot. It was a bit rushed and thus didn't feel quite as polished as most other games in the franchise and was a bit lacking in extra content as well. The flow motion stuff did have the potential to ruin the platforming part, but I actually forced myself to play the game without relying too much on the flowmotion in traversal and it was actually quite enjoyable (though only on my second playthrough). I mostly used the huge flowmotion jump in combat and bounced around walls when possible, but otherwise I tried to never use it in traversal to get to places that could be traverse to with non-flowmotion movement options (unless I dropped down from a place I had reached more traditionally at first and it would've been annoying/too time-consuming to get back normally again).
The story is kind of meh, but I do like the idea of Xehanort manipulating time & people for an epic final confrontation in KHIII. How it was explained/the dialogue/monologue that went through Xehanorts plans was pretty horrible, but all in all I'm not against such epic final showdown on an idea level so I can kind of shrug off the quality of writing. It will make for a super epic finale. I mean, can you people even imagine how epic KHIII's last few hours will be if they are anything like KHI & KHII's except we are fighting multiple Xehanorts & people he's possessed? In PS4 quality. Nerdgasmxplosion
The story is kind of meh, but I do like the idea of Xehanort manipulating time & people for an epic final confrontation in KHIII. How it was explained/the dialogue/monologue that went through Xehanorts plans was pretty horrible, but all in all I'm not against such epic final showdown on an idea level so I can kind of shrug off the quality of writing. It will make for a super epic finale. I mean, can you people even imagine how epic KHIII's last few hours will be if they are anything like KHI & KHII's except we are fighting multiple Xehanorts & people he's possessed? In PS4 quality. Nerdgasmxplosion
I really like DDD. Gameplay is great, soundtrack is amazing and Dream Eaters reminded me of tamagotchis 
The story got extremely convoluted (time travel fucks up almost every story), the free flow system is broken and the drop system kind of made me... nervous? I normally take my time to explore everything in a world, but in this game I always had to watch the time because I would have to switch characters soon. I liked the game a lot more when you were playing Riku alone.
I'm looking forward to II.8. This game will look gorgeous in HD.
The story got extremely convoluted (time travel fucks up almost every story), the free flow system is broken and the drop system kind of made me... nervous? I normally take my time to explore everything in a world, but in this game I always had to watch the time because I would have to switch characters soon. I liked the game a lot more when you were playing Riku alone.
I'm looking forward to II.8. This game will look gorgeous in HD.
NHarmonic.
Member
We need a spin-off game of adult master riku doing shit and traveling the worlds.
I'd buy it twice, come on Nomura-sama.
I'd buy it twice, come on Nomura-sama.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I got a question pertaining to ddd...sora or riku game play? If your answer is anything but Riku..get out.
but i live here
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Still get out,pack your belongings, dont let the DTD hit u on the way out
I mean, you asking me if I prefer creating huge waves to riding a pony back and forth.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Lmao who knows maybe you like bouncing on huge elephants
MAtgS
Member
Riku's had multiple playable roles in the series as is, gimme the Mickey spin-off.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Wha!? We only played with him once(no im not counting the 30 seconds of kh2). Mickey got his time in days and kh2(if u sucked).
Riku is playable in Chain of Memories, Days, Dream Drop Distance, and KH2. Gimme a Kairi or a Skuld game.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You know what i erased Com from my memories(heh ironic)
If kairi isn't the tutorial character and playable after later I'll change my avatar to a dream eater. Im positive.
Seven Force
Banned
I kinda liked Dream Drop Distance, but it was a let down in quite a few aspects for me. The story stuff's already been explained to death already, so I won't even touch that aspect. The game's progression system (in terms of building your character) doesn't feel anywhere near as robust as Birth by Sleep or Re: Coded). There's no real sense of growth (talking purely in the gameplay sense) throughout the game, aside from the Dream Eaters. Honestly, it feels like a lot of the stuff that made Birth by Sleep and Re:Coded's mechanics shine were removed at the expense of the Dream Eater system. Flowmotion's a neat concept I'm willing to see expanded, and I guess using KH3D as a test bed for how it works and doesn't work in a KH game proper was a better option than doing the same, but in KH3 instead. And there's a distinct lack of content in the game, as well.
There are some things the game does great, though: The world choices, even if they didn't completely live up to the hype (Hunchback) were great. The diving mini-games went a long way towards making the pacing of the journey similar to that of the numbered games. The Secret Portals are one of the best things the series has done in terms of side content, and it (or something similar) should remain a series standard, especially considering the boss fights in the series are usually the highlight of any given world.
If the game had managed to reconcile the Dream Eater management with all the little subsystems and mechanics found in Re:Coded and Birth by Sleep, it'd probably be my favorite KH game. But it is what it is.
There are some things the game does great, though: The world choices, even if they didn't completely live up to the hype (Hunchback) were great. The diving mini-games went a long way towards making the pacing of the journey similar to that of the numbered games. The Secret Portals are one of the best things the series has done in terms of side content, and it (or something similar) should remain a series standard, especially considering the boss fights in the series are usually the highlight of any given world.
If the game had managed to reconcile the Dream Eater management with all the little subsystems and mechanics found in Re:Coded and Birth by Sleep, it'd probably be my favorite KH game. But it is what it is.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
NHarmonic.
Member
So Sora will be the last Darkness and Riku will save his ass for the 5th time?
R10Neymarfan
Member
Heavily implied, but replace Riku with Kairi.
na bro. it's gonna look so much better
Mediking
Member
I hope Donald and Goofy stay out of the way. I know they've been there since day one but they have become an eyesore and a pain to deal with in combat.
I already know Kingdom Hearts 3 will have the inevitable super cheesy moments of Donald and Goofy saying, "Sora! We're your friends! You can count on us!". I know friendship is a HUGE theme in the series but please stop with the overly cheesy moments where I'm cringing.
I want more of this:
And less of Donald and Goofy looking awkward in cutscenes:
I was hoping Kingdom Hearts 3 would replace Donald and Goofy with Kairi and Riku or maybe Sora, Kairi and Lea...
I already know Kingdom Hearts 3 will have the inevitable super cheesy moments of Donald and Goofy saying, "Sora! We're your friends! You can count on us!". I know friendship is a HUGE theme in the series but please stop with the overly cheesy moments where I'm cringing.
I want more of this:
And less of Donald and Goofy looking awkward in cutscenes:
I was hoping Kingdom Hearts 3 would replace Donald and Goofy with Kairi and Riku or maybe Sora, Kairi and Lea...
Oh! As for which world that would be? Daybreak Town. And instead of interference coming from Master Xehanort, it comes from the leader of the sixth faction. You also get to meet Skuld and Epherema, as well as getting to take on the five Foretellers.
Bookmarked.
I'm replaying KH2FM through 2.5, gameplay and modelisation are top notch, but damn are the cinematics cringe worthy. It's nearly unbearable. I do not consider KH strictly for kids, as I was enjoying a lot as a 15 to 17 years old guy back in the time, but those cinematics are just dull looking even for children. The windwaker HD is made for children in mind, and the cinematics are way funnier and intersting. In KH2 camera is off, characters look at each others in weird ways, there are a lot of uneeded silences, a lack of movement. I can't really point a finger on it, but there's something really off about them. I hope KH3 offer better value in that particular department.
It's very Japanese-y, as a certain pop singer would say. I guess you could lay the blame on their cutscene director. Now if they had Yoh Yoshinari directing we might get something a little more dynamic...
I really would hope Jun Akiyama or someone of his caliber would return to Kingdom Hearts. His lack of participation in the Kingdom Hearts games' event planning & scenario writing past the first game is painfully noticeable. KH1 can even be said to have some fairly well written & directed cutscenes at times and apart from the slow start, the story's pacing is fairly good in comparison to most other KH games. It has some jank that came with the territory with being one of the first voiced games Squaresoft did & being a huge jump from PS1 era graphics, but all in all it was a fairly good story experience.
The only cutscene we've seen from KHIII shows improvement over KHII's lacking cutscene writing/direction, so I'm hopeful that with the move to much, MUCH more powerful hardware, SQEX is also stepping up their game as far as KHIII's cutscenes go. Just feels like they never felt the need to improve on how they did cutscenes in KH games up until now since they never really moved past PS2 KH games technically either. So they've just kept doing things like they've always done them. With KHIII, I hope they strive to achieve cinematic quality of Visual Works stuff or some Uncharted games (not writing-wise, I know that's impossible, but more in the line of cinematography & such)
The only cutscene we've seen from KHIII shows improvement over KHII's lacking cutscene writing/direction, so I'm hopeful that with the move to much, MUCH more powerful hardware, SQEX is also stepping up their game as far as KHIII's cutscenes go. Just feels like they never felt the need to improve on how they did cutscenes in KH games up until now since they never really moved past PS2 KH games technically either. So they've just kept doing things like they've always done them. With KHIII, I hope they strive to achieve cinematic quality of Visual Works stuff or some Uncharted games (not writing-wise, I know that's impossible, but more in the line of cinematography & such)
Yep, you nailed it. Cutscene from KH2 and Birth By Sleep are really a pain to watch, it's either cringe worthy or really tame. They just feel bad or... empty ? Sometimes both. KH cutscene were not perfect by any means but like you said, it was their first attempt at something that huge.
In fact, I always thought that Kingdom Hearts 1 was almost a perfect experience if not for the camera being too close to the character, the level being a tad too small and KH2 looking much better. It's not just cutscene, it's also the fact that SQX washed out KH universe with next episodes. What makes the first episode that strong is the shroud of mystery that surround it. Almost nothing was explained and I kind of felt for that, it did give the game a powerful atmosphere. The next titles were too explicit for my taste, and from a lot of points I kind of regret the answers that they give, it's almost as - as a kingdom hearts fan for so long - I did hope that they never explained anything since everything they tried did build the convulted mindfuck plot we have now.
It's impossible that they're not trying to make cutscenes better. The game skipped a whole generation and the wait is really high for it. They had all the time in the world to make something good and so far, they always deliver regarding the KH franchise.
The only good cut scenes after KH1 are the ones involving Roxas. This shouldn't come as much of as a surprise since the character has the most depth and compelling story in the entire series. It's a shame that Days didn't get the full game treatment cause it's definitely got the most material for educated thought and theory.
But is it better than Disney Infinity?
Andrefpvs
Member
Interesting that you say this. In my mind,the way I imagine Kingdom Hearts III starting has always been with Kairi as the tutorial character too